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RedRob
20-10-2009, 04:31 AM
Rafa Benitez beware!
How Manchester United pushed four Liverpool managers towards the exit door

By Mirror Football Blog | Published 19:25 19/10/09 | mirrorfootball.co.uk

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Defeat to Manchester United on Sunday might not earn Rafa Benitez the sack - but history shows it could be the beginning of the end for Liverpool's under-fire manager.

Liverpool's last four permanent managers - Gerard Houllier, Roy Evans, Graeme Souness and Kenny Dalglish - have all left in the aftermath of crucial games against Sir Alex Ferguson's side.

With the Reds struggling for form and striker Fernando Torres struggling for fitness, could there be lessons in history for Benitez from the fate of his predecessors?



MATCH DATE: 25/04/04

MANAGER UNDER PRESSURE: Gerard Houllier. With the Reds no closer to that elusive championship after six years under the Frenchman, rebel shareholder Steve Morgan was among many calling for a change at the top.

WHAT HAPPENED?: United 0-1 Liverpool. Danny Murphy's 63rd minute penalty won a dull game in which United's only real chance fell to Ryan Giggs, whose shot hit both posts and went out to safety. far more interesting was the post-match sight of Sir Alex Ferguson appearing to beg the Liverpool board not to sack his friend Houllier. "Great clubs always come back," said Fergie. "And, given patience, so will Liverpool."

WHAT HAPPENED NEXT?: Despite a late charge to finish fourth and seal a lucrative Champions League spot, Houllier was sacked exactly one month later with chief executive Rick Parry explaining: "The board decided change was necessary if we were to realistically challenge for the title this season." Valencia manager Rafa Benitez was installed as favourite to take over; second at the bookies was Charlton's Alan Curbishley with Gordon Strachan and Steve McClaren also attracting bets.



MATCH DATE: 24/9/98

MANAGER UNDER PRESSURE: Roy Evans. The writing had been on the wall for Evans ever since Gerard Houllier arrived at Anfield in the summer, ostensibly as a replacement for retired Boot Room head Ronnie Moran. After an away defeat to West Ham and a 3-3 home draw with Charlton, it was growing even clearer.

WHAT HAPPENED?: United 2-0 Liverpool. A routine United win was remarkable for Evans losing his rag with referee Steve Lodge, who had correctly disallowed a Karlheinz Riedele 'equaliser' for offside and for Sir Alex Ferguson's pre-match taunting of Liverpool's United old boy Paul Ince as a "big-time Charlie", a theme taken up during the game by the Stretford End. "Charlie, Charlie, what's the score," they chanted as the Guv'nor scowled.

WHAT HAPPENED NEXT: Defeat sent Liverpool into free-fall. A string of defeats to Leicester, Derby and Tottenham ushered Evans towards a tearful exit within six weeks of the United defeat, with Houllier assuming full control.



MATCH DATE: 4/1/94

MANAGER UNDER PRESSURE: Graeme Souness. Already unpopular on Merseyside for his dismantling of the famous Anfield Boot Room and his decision to sell the story of his heart problems to the Hillsborough-baiting Sun, Souey's run of only two wins in nine league and Cup games had exhausted patience on the Kop and in the boardroom.

WHAT HAPPENED?: Liverpool 3-3 United. Souness was dead and buried after 24 minutes as United romped into a 3-0 lead through Steve Bruce's header, a magnificent Ryan Giggs lob and Denis Irwin's powerful free kick. Then, said Ferguson, "Liverpool went kamikaze". Two Nigel Clough goals made it 2-3 at half-time, then, with 11 minutes left, Neil Ruddock almost knocked himself out with a brave header to equalise and cause delirium inside Anfield. Surely it would all turn round for Liverpool from here?

WHAT HAPPENED NEXT?: Just three weeks later, the Anfield throng which had hailed Liverpool's rebirth howled their condemnation as Liverpool slumped to a 1-0 FA Cup third round home defeat to a Bristol City side then on the point of parting company with manager Russell Osman. Souness was dismissed the next day.



MATCH DATE: 3/2/91

MANAGER UNDER PRESSURE: Kenny Dalglish. It seemed like business as usual at the start of the 1990-91 season, with Liverpool top of the league from opening day and not even a first defeat of the season, 3-1 at Old Trafford in the League Cup on Halloween, denting the Scousers' sense of invincibility. But a series of uncharacteristic draws, coupled with Dalglish's public falling-out with Kop idol Peter Beardsley, added a rare sense of uncertainty as the New Year came in and Arsenal supplanted Dalglish's side at the summit.

WHAT HAPPENED?: United 1-1 Liverpool. Steve Bruce's penalty put United ahead before new signing David Speedie, just arrived from Coventry as Beardsley's replacement for what was then an outlandish £675,000, knocked in a John Barnes cross which Les Sealey could only tip away. United could have won it at the death when Brian McClair put Lee Sharpe through but Bruce Grobbelaar raced out of his box to palm the ball away, receiving only a yellow card from Ray Lewis, the referee from the aptly-named Surrey town of Great Bookham.

WHAT HAPPENED NEXT?: Taciturn even by his own standards after the game, Dalglish was in fact beginning to struggle with stress caused by a delayed reaction to the Hillsborough disaster and with the demands of renewing a great side quietly slipping into decline. He lasted just three more games as Liverpool manager, quitting 18 days later after a 4-4 Cup derby draw at Goodison. Two weeks later Dalglish was ready to return "but the phone never rang" and eventually Liverpool turned, disastrously, to Graeme Souness.



AND THE ONE FROM THE OTHER SIDE WHO GOT AWAY...

MATCH DATE: 18/3/90

MANAGER UNDER PRESSURE: Alex Ferguson. The target of terrace abuse from the Stretford End since September's incredible 5-1 derby mauling at Manchester City, Fergie was clinging on by the time Liverpool arrived, with United fifth bottom and only two points clear of the relegation places. He would have gone already had United not scraped into the FA Cup semi-final after narrow wins against Division Two sides Newcastle and Sheffield United.

WHAT HAPPENED?: United 1-2 Liverpool. Two John Barnes goals - one a deft chip of Jim Leighton after a blistering 40-yard run - pushed Fergie closer to the trap door than ever before at an angry Old Trafford, where Liverpool hadn't won in eight years.

WHAT HAPPENED NEXT?: Chairman Martin Edwards stood firm after the game and, despite another defeat at fellow strugglers Sheffield Wednesday, Ferguson turned things around in April with league wins against Coventry and Southampton. Still, he would almost certainly have been sacked but for two pieces of good fortune in the Cup: Mark Hughes' late leveller in the first semi-final clash with Oldham and then referee Joe Worrall failing to award a goal in the replay when Nick Henry 's early shot crossed the line. United triumphed 2-1 at Maine Road and went on to beat Crystal Palace in the final for their first trophy under Ferguson.

rondwisan
20-10-2009, 07:46 AM
MANAGER UNDER PRESSURE: Gerard Houllier.

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MANAGER UNDER PRESSURE: Roy Evans.

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MANAGER UNDER PRESSURE: Graeme Souness.

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MANAGER UNDER PRESSURE: Kenny Dalglish.

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Who's next ???

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dree_united
20-10-2009, 09:50 AM
hahahaha....mudah2an kita bisa memberikan tekanan itu (menang di anfield, insya Allah) pada liverpool weekend nanti. soal apa yg terjadi setelahnya pada manajer mereka, i don't care...!!

:D

GL zone
20-10-2009, 10:05 AM
mudah2an abis pertandingan ygdi menangin united
si rafa bakal menyusul pelatih2 pool sebelum ny

di pecat

red_girl_mia
20-10-2009, 11:21 AM
mudamudahan United nemu langsung HOT Button nya biar menang di anfield...
yang terjadi pada Rafa....helll do i care...

Oncy
20-10-2009, 11:28 AM
There will be always the next... and its Benitez

theater of dream
20-10-2009, 12:18 PM
Gw justru berharap Rafa tetap di Anfield..
kalo Rafa pergi gak ada lagi dong si Mulut Besar, gak asyik dong hahah>:)

Sir Alsep Ferguson
20-10-2009, 06:57 PM
hmm....gw rasa bener2 di pecat neh kalo kalah dari Manchester United minggu besok

dan mudah2an kalah

why ?

balas dendam last season

akan menjadi balas dendam yg sangat berkesan ...

kalah di kandang, manajer di pecat, mental tim jatoh, dan para fans nya sudah ngibarin bendera putih ga dapat piala BPL lagi .....

bye bye Benitez

derry07cantona
20-10-2009, 07:22 PM
entah kenapa....
bdosa apa kaga...pokoknye
gw bahagia banget klo yg namanya liperpul ini menderita
wkwkwkw....

gravedigga
20-10-2009, 08:14 PM
BENITEZ MUST STAY!!!!!


mudah2an Liverpool kalah...tapi Rafa tetep berada di Liverpool sampe selama2nya...

tumpal_oneunited
20-10-2009, 10:35 PM
BENITEZ MUST STAY!!!!!


mudah2an Liverpool kalah...tapi Rafa tetep berada di Liverpool sampe selama2nya...

hahahaha...
setuju..setuju bro..
rafa must stay dan pool kalah ama MU akhir pekan ini...
hohohohoho... :mudance:

cr7lover
21-10-2009, 01:39 AM
hahaha baca judul ni thread aja gw dah ngakakkk!!!
setuju..Rafa muz stay!!!
keilangan Rafa d BPL bakal sama dgn keilangan Mourinho dulu

otonk reddevilz
21-10-2009, 10:12 AM
Biar makin lengkap lahh..Pool Kalah, United Juara..Rafa Satay dan kembali ngiri dan jadi penonton..karena Shipnya nggk nyandar nyandar di Pelabuhan Anfield...Hahaha..:hajar3:

Sir Alsep Ferguson
21-10-2009, 10:24 AM
Gw justru berharap Rafa tetap di Anfield..
kalo Rafa pergi gak ada lagi dong si Mulut Besar, gak asyik dong hahah>:)


akan ada si mulut besar yang lain datang ke liga inggris utk adu mulut lagi dengan opa..
hehehehehe...

paling2 ancelotti dikit lagi tuh

entah kenapa....
bdosa apa kaga...pokoknye
gw bahagia banget klo yg namanya liperpul ini menderita
wkwkwkw....

idem ... wkwkwk

GL zone
21-10-2009, 10:26 AM
entah kenapa....
bdosa apa kaga...pokoknye
gw bahagia banget klo yg namanya liperpul ini menderita
wkwkwkw....

bahagia di atas penderitaan orang lain itu kalo sesuai agama ga boleh lho...
tapi kalo masalah yg satu ini beda urusan ny
hehehe...

god loves united




:ngacir:

theater of dream
21-10-2009, 11:42 AM
akan ada si mulut besar yang lain datang ke liga inggris utk adu mulut lagi dengan opa..
hehehehehe...
paling2 ancelotti dikit lagi tuh

Ancelotti kayak nya agak sedikit kalem bro.. tapi gak tau juga nanti yah
hehehe, inti nya SAF harus ada teman buat dia betah and gak bosan di EPL hahaha>:)

Red Army
21-10-2009, 11:52 AM
for sure...he's next !!
btw...we luv Rafa right...hehehe

pelz
21-10-2009, 11:56 AM
BENITEZ MUST STAY!!!!!


mudah2an Liverpool kalah...tapi Rafa tetep berada di Liverpool sampe selama2nya...

Setujuhhh yas...RAFA MUST STAY!!!hhahahhahahahahaha.......

el_fenomeno
21-10-2009, 07:36 PM
I agree RAFA MUST STAY biar liverpool still lose..hahahaahah

theater of dream
22-10-2009, 10:21 AM
Duh tambah gawat aja neh Rafa, udah lah kalah ama Lyon, Pemain pilar banyak cedera pula...hahaha;)

fredrian.seven
22-10-2009, 12:21 PM
Liverpool cannot afford £20M-plus to sack Benitez
22.10.09 | tribalfootball.com

Liverpool cannot afford to show Rafa Benitez the door.

The Daily Mail says not even the prospect of missing out on Champions League football next season would persuade the owners to dismiss him.

While failure to reach Europe's premier competition would cost Liverpool around £20million, the bill for ditching Benitez and his staff would be even more.

The Spaniard has four-and-a-half years to run on the £4.5m-a-season contract he signed in March. Sacking Benitez alone would cost in the region of £20m, while getting rid of the staff he brought in after sacking 16 members of the back-room team in the summer would add considerably to the overall cost.

Chelsea paid more than £23m in compensation when they dismissed first Jose Mourinho and then Avram Grant - plus members of their back-room teams.

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Lipervool nggak mungkin mecat Benita. emang lipervool dapet duit darimana mo mecat benita??? malangnya... dipertahanin rugi, dipecat juga rugi...

theater of dream
22-10-2009, 12:38 PM
Pake aja deh hahaha:sad:

ferly_Liemz
22-10-2009, 02:06 PM
ini klub tuh kasian amat yak...
mw ganti pelatih aja kaga sanggup

jadi kaya buah simalakama...
yang ujungnya tetep si bango terkubur....
bakar bango.....
:nohope::nohope:

schizo
23-10-2009, 08:57 PM
ijin terbahak-bahak, om ....

=)) =)) =)) mode bisik2 on: [tetangga lg sakit]

KkingP
24-10-2009, 01:19 AM
Liverpool cannot afford £20M-plus to sack Benitez
22.10.09 | tribalfootball.com

Liverpool cannot afford to show Rafa Benitez the door.



Lucu juga nih.. iya yah kalo dipikir2. Budgetnya pool ajha permusim unutk beli pemain cuma 20 jt pound..

theater of dream
24-10-2009, 05:42 PM
IMO, Kritik yang terlalu berlebihan untuk Rafa...
itu cuma Blow up Media aja buat manasin jelang Big match lawan United

moris33
24-10-2009, 11:25 PM
rafa dipecat??????

















coming soon!!!!!

theater of dream
25-10-2009, 05:46 PM
The Looser Pool.........





Coming soon..........

Ayunda
25-10-2009, 08:06 PM
mudamudahan United nemu langsung HOT Button nya biar menang di anfield...
yang terjadi pada Rafa....helll do i care...


Bener banget! Siapa peduli Rafa mo dipecat apa nggak??? Yang penting United menang!!! Glory2 Man United...

ferly_Liemz
26-10-2009, 11:12 AM
ga jadi di pecat deh si badut...

berarti masih bisa liat lawakan2 lagi deh dr badut botak ga berotak...:embarrassment::embarrassment:

fredrian.seven
26-10-2009, 12:07 PM
Blom tentu... masih ada pertandingan berikutnya. Kemenangan atas MU ini cuman hiburan sesaat, ntar lawan klub papan bawah maen jelek lagi ya siap2 aja angkat kopor.

RedRob
26-10-2009, 11:38 PM
gak bisa dipungkiri, Rafa tadi malem melewati tes dengan baik.. gw sih berharap dia jangan dipecat dulu sampe Opa balas ngalahin the fat spanish waiter 5 kali lagi...!!

theater of dream
27-10-2009, 04:44 AM
Posisi Rafa aman buat musim ini...

rondwisan
11-01-2011, 09:15 AM
Knocked off their perch
MEN - January 10, 2011



Kenny Dalglish is the sixth different man to steer the fortunes of Liverpool during Sir Alex Ferguson’s reign at Old Trafford.

Here, MEN Sport looks at the tenures of Anfield bosses during Fergie’s time at United.

KENNY DALGLISH 1985-91
Kop legend Dalglish had a tough task to follow the trophy-laden years of Bill Shankly, Bob Paisley and Joe Fagan. Dalglish delivered three league titles and two FA Cups and even the way he quit because of the pressures of the job did not lower his esteem in the eyes of fans who were calling for his return before Hodgson's departure.

GRAEME SOUNESS 1991-94
Souness was an integral part of Liverpool's success as a player, but became proof that not every former player can return as a successful manager. Souness was hired after his success at Rangers but could only deliver one FA Cup to the Anfield faithful. The fiery Scot also had well publicised bust-ups with players and underwent heart surgery during his tenure.

ROY EVANS 1994-1998
Evans was a return to the boot room for Liverpool after he was selected to return the club to winning ways when Souness quit. Evans delivered one League Cup in 1995 but could not achieve the success of more illustrious predecessors, although he did introduce Michael Owen to the first team. Evans left when plans for him to manage alongside Gerard Houllier didn’t work out.

GERARD HOULLIER 1998-2004
The Frenchman overhauled both the team and the club's training ground and had great success in 2001 as Liverpool won the League Cup, FA Cup, UEFA Cup, Community Shield and UEFA Super Cup. However, in October of the same year Houllier suffered a dissected aorta and was taken ill during a league game with Leeds. Former player Phil Thompson stood in until Houllier's return, but he could not recapture the successes of 2001 and left in acrimonious circumstances in 2004.

RAFAEL BENITEZ 2004-2010
The Spaniard guided the club to the Champions League title in 2005 after a dramatic final saw them come from 3-0 down to draw with AC Milan before winning on penalties. His side went on to win the FA Cup in 2006 after a shootout success against West Ham. Benitez fell out with new owners George Gillett and Tom Hicks but, following the 2007 Champions League final loss to Milan, he was allowed to sign striker Fernando Torres. A publicised fall-out with chief executive Rick Parry and a verbal attack on Sir Alex Ferguson were followed by a new five-year contract in March 2009, but he left the club the following June after the fans turned against him.

ROY HODGSON 2010-2011
Manager of the year at Fulham, the highly-respected Hodgson was seen as a fresh start after Liverpool rejected the chance of a return for Dalglish. League Cup defeat to Northampton and a Premier League reverse at home to Blackpool, coupled with other poor results, saw Liverpool in the bottom three after seven games. Speculation that he would be sacked was dismissed with an upturn in form and the backing of new owner John W Henry. However, defeats to Wolves and Blackburn saw Hodgson fall out with fans and Henry wielded the axe.

* Ronnie Moran was caretaker manager for 10 games in 1991.