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rondwisan

23-10-2009, 08:34 AM

21/10/2009 09:27 - ManUtd.com, Steve Morgan
Red rivals: The 1960s

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World in motion... The decade in which four lads from Liverpool shook the world with their music and style kicks off our look at the changing rivalry between England's two most successful clubs. In a five-part, decade-by-decade feature, we ask fans from both sides of the divide to share their experiences, starting in the 60s, as both Merseyside teams started giving us a run for our money...

Decade head to head
League: P16 W7 D3 L6
FA Cup: P1 W1 D0 L0
Charity Shield: P1 W0 D1 L0
Overall: P18 W8 D4 L6

The United fan Television producer David Hall on the watershed in the United-Liverpool canon...

“Early in the 1960s, I don’t remember a great rivalry, certainly not like there is today. Liverpool were a Second Division side. Busby and Shankly were great mates and most Reds remembered Liverpool were the first team after Munich to offer help. When Liverpool were promoted in 1962 it didn’t change much, even when Phil Chisnall moved there in 1964 it was no big deal. Everton were the greater rivals: ‘Chequebook champions’ in 1962/63, they were never out of the top four or five.

“It was only after Liverpool won the league a couple of times that the rivalry took off. It coincided with the start of hooliganism and both Liverpool and Everton got a ruthless reputation. By 1966/67 Anfield and Goodison Park were dodgy places to visit. This was before the days of crowd segregation, and I remember getting caught in the middle of the odd terrace battle. One game I remember vividly was at Liverpool on 25 March 1967, in the title run-in. It was a three-horse race with Liverpool and Nottingham Forest, and it was a title decider.

"I went with mates from Wythenshawe. None of us wore scarves, hats or badges: it was the start of not wearing your colours away but, perhaps unwisely, we still went on the Kop. Most United fans were at the other end. We stood right in the middle and everything was fine for the first half hour. No goals to cheer, but Tommy Smith was playing and he was always provoked a reaction. Smith wasn’t just Liverpool’s hard man, he was the dirtiest player I’ve ever seen! Shankly used to say he ‘wasn’t born, he was quarried’.

“That afternoon Smith was at it from the word go, clattering Best, Law and anyone else in a United shirt. Eventually after one particularly bad tackle, I gave him some abuse and shouted: ‘Get him off, ref!’ The mood around us changed. A big fella a few feet down the terrace turned and came for me – fortunately, my mate calmed him down. For the rest of the match it was uneasy and we stayed fairly quiet. It ended 0–0, a good result for United and a bad one for Liverpool, whose challenge faded after failing to take the chance to close the gap.”

The Liverpool fan Writer John Mackin, Anfield regular since the mid-1960s and Kop season ticket holder since 1975, edits The Rattle website and is a founding member of Reclaim The Kop...

“Our first season back after promotion, 1962/63, started badly. But two very late goals, including a last-minute penalty by Ronnie Moran, earned us a 3-3 draw at Old Trafford [10 November 1962]. From losing eight of our first 15, we went unbeaten for three-and-a-half months. The following season we won the league, beating United home and away, and I like to think that penalty was the springboard to 30 years of glory.

“I’ve never forgiven Eusebio for missing that sitter at the end of the 1968 European Cup final! Nor have I forgotten a 4-1 defeat to United on 13 December 1969: the first real hammering I witnessed at Anfield. It was devastating to watch your heroes succumb like that – at home. Pathetic on the pitch, bedlam outside.

“We were in decline and, by the end of the season, Shankly had broken up the team of Hunt, St John and Yeats. He began building a new side around Kevin Keegan, John Toshack, Emlyn Hughes and Steve Heighway.”

In a league of our own

We couldn’t be closer – or further apart. Travel 30 miles from Manchester to Liverpool, traffic willing, in under an hour, but natives of either city will tell you there are light years between the people. To an outsider it’s a riddle. Proud working-class cities, founded on the sweat and toil of industrial revolution – they should have loads in common. As simplistic as it sounds, perhaps those shared histories provide the answer – it’s precisely because we’re so similar that we’re so different. In this five-part feature we assess the ups, downs and how the rivalry has changed since United and Liverpool began, regularly, going toe-to-toe for honours in the 1960s...

Honours: In the 1960s
United: Leagues 2 (1965, 1967), FA Cups 1 (1963), Charity Shields 2 (1965 – shared with Liverpool, 1967), European Cups 1 (1968)
Liverpool: Leagues 2 (1964, 1966), FA Cups 1 (1965), Charity Shields 1 (1965 – shared)
Title ticker (inc. pre-1960): United 7, Liverpool 7

rondwisan

23-10-2009, 08:37 AM

22/10/2009 08:54 - ManUtd.com, Steve Morgan
Red rivals: The 1970s

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Ch... ch... ch... changes As punk and new wave kicked out the glam era, the look went from platforms and tank tops to sleek Adidas Sambas and Pringle sweaters – with hair by the Thin White Duke, David Bowie. Our decade-by-decade look at the rivalry between United and Liverpool - with the help of fans who've been there and seen it - continues into the 70s, where the Anfield Reds were the major force on the pitch, while the battle raged to be the most stylish – and hardest – off it...

Decade head to head
League: P17 W2 D5 L10
FA Cup: P3 W2 D1 L0
Charity Shield: P1 W0 D1 L0
Overall: P21 W4 D7 L10

The United fan Ian Hough grew up in Salford and started watching United in 1975. Author of the acclaimed Perry Boys, he now lives in the USA and is writing his first novel.

“In May 1977 I went to Cornwall with a mate and his family on holiday. The entire week was scheduled with military precision: a daily 15-mile ramble, without fail. I was a shy kid but made it very clear I wasn’t going anywhere that famous Saturday [21 May, FA Cup final against Liverpool]. I stayed in and watched United thump the Mickeys and overcome the disappointment of the previous year against Southampton. It was a beautiful sunny day in St Ives and everything clumsily fell into place – including the goal Jimmy Greenhoff and Lou Macari scored between themselves. I had total belief in Tommy Docherty’s promise we’d return to Wembley that year and win it. And we did, against Liverpool. The fact that we thwarted their Treble – and still taunt them about that – makes it the gift that keeps on giving.

“The Sex Pistols’ single God Save the Queen was about to be released and Odyssey’s Native New Yorker was an accompaniment to our skateboarding exploits. Later that year, the Stranglers’ Straighten Out and Ram Jam’s Black Betty became part of the Punk craze, along with many more. They were carefree years and the FA Cup carried much more significance than the Champions League does today. Close Encounters of the Third Kind and Star Wars were the latest blockbuster movies, but United outshone anything being shown on the silver screen.”

The Liverpool fan John Mackin again, by now a season-ticket holder on the Kop....

“We did well in the league against United throughout the 1970s. I’ll always cherish some great games in the later part of the decade, especially a 3-1 win at Anfield in February 1978 with goals from Graeme Souness, Ray Kennedy and Jimmy Case. I think that was the game at which a United fan was hit in the nose by a dart, a photo splashed across the Sunday papers the next day – the rivalry had been getting more intense over the preceding decade and was entering its nastiest days. Then victory over Bruges in May [1978] meant we overhauled United and Celtic’s record, winning the European Cup for the second time and establishing ourselves as Europe’s finest club side.

“The following season [1978-79] came a fabulous 3-0 Boxing Day win at Old Trafford, best remembered by travelling Liverpudlians for the vicious clashes in the streets around the ground; things were getting out of hand.

“We’d lost to United in 1977 at Wembley in the Cup final and that hurt, as we deserved to win and went down to a jammy goal. This time round, in a semi-final replay at Goodison, a game I’d convinced myself we could not lose, we were beaten by a Jimmy Greenhoff goal against the run of play. Still, we beat United home and away and won the league – again – that season, which took some of the sting away.”

Advantage Liverpool
Liverpool dominated in the 1970s, edging ahead in the title haul, while United's biggest triumph came against the Anfield club in 1977s FA Cup final.

Honours
United: FA Cups 1 (1977), Charity Shields 1 (1977 – shared with
Liverpool)
Liverpool: League titles 4 (1973, 1976, 1977, 1979), FA Cups 1 (1974),
Charity Shields 4 (1974, 1976, 1977 – shared with United, 1979), European
Cups 2 (1977, 1978), UEFA Cups 2 (1973, 1976), European Super Cups 1 (1977)
Title ticker: United 7, Liverpool 11

zudomiriku

23-10-2009, 09:18 AM

boleh dimasukin ke sini gak ;;)

Catatan Sepakbola
Bila MU Bertemu Liverpool
LY Arifin - detiksport

London - Suatu saat sekitar bulan November 1959 Bill Shankly yang menjadi pelatih di Huddersfield didatangi dua petinggi dari Liverpool. Terjadi percakapan yang cuplikannya kira-kira seperti ini:

"Tidakkah Anda berminat menjadi pelatih di klub terbaik Inggris?" tanya salah satu dari kedua petinggi Liverpool itu.

"Mengapa? Apakah Matt Busby mengundurkan diri?’" Shankly balas bertanya.

Kita tahu apa yang ada di benak Shankly, karena Matt Busby sedang berproses menjadi pelatih legendaris Manchester United dan klub itu sedang merajai dunia persepakbolaan Inggris. Sedangkan Liverpool saat itu sudah cukup bergembira duduk di papan tengah divisi dua versi lama Liga Inggris.

Ini sekadar ilustrasi bahwa sebenarnya persaingan paling sengit di antara kedua tim tersebut belumlah terlalu lama. Kalau dihitung sejak Shankly memegang Liverpool tahun 1959, maka persaingan sengit MU dan Liverpool baru berlangsung 50 tahun. Jauh lebih muda dari persaingan sengit antara Liverpool dan Everton yang sudah ada sejak 50 tahun sebelumnya, atau Manchester United dan Manchester City, atau Arsenal dan Tottenham sejak tahun 1930-an, serta Chelsea dan Fulham ataupun Burnley dan Blackburn.

Shankly mengagumi pemain-pemain MU maupun klub itu, tetapi pada saat bersamaan mempunyai tekad membara untuk menggoyang hirarki persepakbolaan Inggris. Membawa Liverpool kembali ke puncak persepakbolaan Inggris. Dialah yang sesungguhnya memantik persaingan sengit antara kedua klub raksasa Inggris ini.

Shankly yang prestasinya biasa-biasa saja sebelum memegang Liverpool, hanya dalam waktu lima tahun membawa Liverpool dari klub papan tengah divisi dua menjadi juara divisi satu menyingkirkan MU maupun -- yang lebih penting lagi sebenarnya -- musuh bebuyutan satu kota sekaligus juara bertahan, Everton. Dua tahun kemudian di tahun 1966 ia mengulangi prestasi itu. Tahun 1965 ia membawa Liverpool menjuarai Piala FA untuk pertama kalinya.

Shankly tidak lagi membawa Liverpool menjadi juara divisi satu hingga tahun 1973. Namun dalam proses kebangkitan Liverpool ia menanamkan rasa percaya diri yang luar biasa bahwa Liverpool tidak kalah besar dengan klub lain. Bahwa bermain untuk Liverpool adalah sebuah kehormatan. Dan andaipun Liverpool tidak menjadi juara, sangat penting untuk mengalahkan mereka yang dianggap terbesar dan tersukses, bagaimanapun caranya, bermain habis-habisan seolah mati hidup tergantung pada pertandingan itu.

Shankly dengan sengaja menjadikan MU sebagai sasaran. Apalagi ketika mereka di tahun 1968 menjadi klub Inggris pertama yang memenangi Piala Champions. Boleh saja MU waktu itu menganggap dirinya klub tersukses, tetapi bertemu Liverpool mereka tahu reputasi itu tak ada artinya. Pertandingan akan berlangsung seperti pertempuran habis-habisan.

Adalah "kehendak" sejarah bahwa di tahun 1970-an MU dan Liverpool bertukar posisi. Ketika revolusi yang diawali oleh Shankly diteruskan Bob Paisley dan kemudian Joe Fagan – dua asisten pelatih Shankly -- membuat Liverpool bukan saja raja Inggris tetapi juga Eropa, nasib MU terpuruk-puruk bahkan sempat terdegradasi ke divisi dua di tahun 1975. Namun perseteruan antara kedua klub sudah terlanjur mapan dan tidak mengendor untuk tidak dikatakan malah makin sengit. Liverpool ganti menjadi klub paling sukses di Inggris tetapi mereka tahu melawan MU adalah persoalan berbeda. MU akan menjadi “Setan Merah” yang sesungguhnya dan Liverpool harus bersiaga tanpa henti.

Sejak pertengahan tahun 60-an itulah pertarungan MU melawan Liverpool menjadi salah satu pertandingan paling sengit dan paling ditunggu publik Inggris, seolah lepas dari konteks keseluruhan kompetisi liga. Kedua klub seperti bertekad, kalaulah tidak menjadi juara maka yang lebih utama bagi MU adalah mengalahkan Liverpool, begitupun sebaliknya.

Kedua klub saling mengukur pencapaian prestasi mereka dari apa yang sudah diraih oleh keduanya. Ingatkah Anda ketika Alex Ferguson untuk pertama kalinya datang ke MU lebih 20 tahun silam? Ketika ditanya wartawan salah satu target utamanya menjadi pelatih di Old Trafford, Ferguson tanpa sungkan menjawab: "Menendang Liverpool dari puncak hirarki sepakbola Inggris."

Seperti Shankly di Liverpool, Ferguson melakukan revolusi di MU. Bedanya, Ferguson bukan sekadar memulai revolusi tetapi juga menjaga revolusi itu untuk tidak padam. Ia masih saja menjadi pelatih hingga kini. Ia memegang janjinya untuk menendang Liverpool dari puncak hirarki sepakbola Inggris. Entah untuk berapa lama lagi.

Kedua klub akan bertemu lagi akhir pekan ini. Kedua pendukung klub akan membawa panji-panji prestasi mereka masing-masing: kami lebih banyak memenangkan Piala Eropa dari kalian, Piala FA kami lebih banyak, prestasi kami lebih bergengsi dan lain sebagainya. Tetapi di hati kecil mereka semuanya tahu, catatan prestasi itu tak lebih dekorasi semata. Yang lebih penting adalah apa yang terjadi selama 90 menit di lapangan.

Pertemuan antara kedua kesebelasan ini ,apapun nama kompetisinya, hanya mempunyai satu konteks: selama 90 menit mana yang lebih hebat, klubmu atau klubku. Peduli amat dengan kompetisi liga, Piala FA, Piala Liga, ataupun Liga Champions. Atau ... ya kami peduli, tapi itu urusan nanti.

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*) Penulis adalah wartawan detikcom, tinggal di London.

rondwisan

24-10-2009, 07:47 AM

23/10/2009 08:36 - ManUtd.com, Steve Morgan
Red rivals: The 1980s

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Use it up and wear it out Sports casual hands over to scruff, tweed and Barbour jackets in an era that marked the end of innocence.

Decade head to head
League: P20 W8 D10 L2
FA Cup: P2 W1 D1 L0
League Cup: P2 W0 D0 L2
Charity Shield: P1 W1 D0 L0
Overall: P25 W10 D11 L4

The United fan – Ian Hough:

"My abiding memory – although walking to Lime Street, singing in the darkness after Arthur Albiston’s Anfield winner in October 1981 runs it close – has to be the league match at Old Trafford, April 1980. United won 2-1 and it was the first time I really tasted that edge between the teams. Liverpool had loads of fans and I’d never heard the whole ground singing like that.

"Home fans in the United Road Paddock and seats joined in with every song blasted out by the Stretford End. It was the era of caged-in fans. Every time Liverpool got a throw-in, you could see the crowd roaring abuse at their player as he retrieved the ball. At the end of that game my throat was hoarse, I was totally drained – and the fact we’d won was secondary to the experience."

The Liverpool fan – John Mackin:

"It wasn’t a great decade for us in the league against United. In fact, the finer our team became, the more we struggled to win against them. That’s why the League Cup final in 1983 stands out, coming from behind and winning it with a beautiful curler from Ronny Whelan. A similarly outstanding League Cup effort followed in November 1985, with the stunning equaliser from Jan Molby that almost broke the Kop End net. Winning two more European Cups to push us out of sight of United’s efforts on that score was a great comfort.

“By the end of the decade we were hailed the finest-ever club side, and yet continued to struggle to beat United – Russell Beardsmore even scored against us when we won the league in 1988/89 [as well as Hughes and McClair in a 3-1 New Year’s Day United victory]. Other lows included the 1983 Charity Shield and going down to United and Norman Whiteside in the 1986 Boxing Day clash. Norm got the only goal, our first home defeat of the season and Alex Ferguson’s first away win.

“But the nadir? Gordon Strachan’s goal at Anfield in April 1988 that drew United level after being 3-1 down early in the second half. His ‘cigar smoking’ celebration still makes Liverpudlians crimson-faced with rage!"

Honours uneven
Liverpool forge ahead in the title stakes, as United settle for slim cup pickings...

Honours
United: FA Cups 2 (1983, 1985), Charity Shields 1 (1983)
Liverpool: League titles 6 (1980, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1986, 1988), FA Cups 2
(1986, 1989), League Cups 4 (1981, 1982, 1983, 1984), Charity Shields 5 (1980, 1982, 1986, 1988, 1989), European Cups 2 (1981, 1984)
Title ticker: United 7, Liverpool 17

rondwisan

24-10-2009, 09:09 AM

Football League Division One
24 October 1981 at Anfield

LIVERPOOL 1
McDermott (pen)

MANCHESTER UNITED 2
Moran, Albiston

Liverpool: Grobbelaar; Neal, Thompson, Hansen, Lawrenson; Lee, McDermott, Souness, Kennedy; Dalglish, Johnson (Whelan).

United: Bailey; Gidman, Moran, Buchan, Albiston; Moses, Wilkins, Robson, Coppell; Stapleton, Birtles. Sub not used: Duxbury.
24/10/2009 00:01 - Manutd.com, Mike Shaw
Flashback: Liverpool '81

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United travelled to Merseyside on 24 October 1981 with high expectations.

Yes, Liverpool were the Champions of Europe, having beaten Real Madrid in May, but Bob Paisley’s side had made a slow start and were languishing in 10th place. The visitors, under the new management of Ron Atkinson, were third, having won seven of the previous ten games.

Action: After a frantic start in which new signing Bryan Robson dragged a good chance wide and Gary Bailey denied Ray Kennedy, United drew first blood - Kevin Moran tapping home after Frank Stapleton’s header had been saved. Graeme Souness smashed a shot against the post shortly before half time and both sides had chances in the second half before Moran was adjudged to have fouled Ronnie Whelan. When Terry McDermott smashed home from the spot, it looked as if the points might be shared. Cue Arthur Albiston for his moment of magic, swapping passes with Stapleton and rifling into the bottom corner to send United top of the table.

Reaction: Despite a bright start it wasn’t to be United’s season. Liverpool rallied to win back the title they had given up a year earlier to Aston Villa while Atkinson's men had to settle for third place, five points behind Bobby Robson’s Ipswich.

On the radio: Dave Stewart and Barbara Gaskin topped the single charts with It’s My Party while The Police sat atop the album chart with Ghost in the Machine.

In the news: General strikes brought Poland to a standstill; more than 250,000 people marched through the streets of London on a rally organised by the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament; the LA Dodgers beat the New York Yankees 8-7 on their way to winning the World Series.

rondwisan

25-10-2009, 12:49 AM

24/10/2009 09:21 - ManUtd.com, Steve Morgan
Red rivals: The 1990s

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Moving on up After two decades of Mersey magnificence, a power shift arrived. Liverpool opened the '90s with title 18, but United were back, and how.

Decade head to head
League: P20 W8 D7 L5
FA Cup: P2 W2 D0 L0
League Cup: P1 W1 D0 L0
Charity Shield: P1 W0 D1 L0
Overall: P24 W11 D 8 L5

The United fan Pete Boyle, United’s modern-day songsmith, went to his first game in 1975. He had to wait 17 years to see his first United title-winning side, but has greatly enjoyed the 11 in the 17 years since...

“If you’d have told me at the start of the 1990s that Liverpool would go 20 years without winning the title, I’d have assumed you’d banged your head in a big way. April 1992 was a bleak month for United.

“Nowhere was this more evident than at Anfield when Leeds’ title win was rubbed in and Ian Rush finally scored against United in a 2-0 Liverpool victory [26 April 1992]. The following season, however, goals from Mark Hughes and Brian McClair either side of an Ian Rush strike for Liverpool resulted in us winning at Anfield [2-1, 6 March 1993] en route to finally lifting the title after 26 years of trying. The next Anfield encounter [4 January 1994] is loved by neutrals and Scousers, but I don’t look back fondly at a game when we were 3-0 up, only to draw 3-3!

"Although we lost a couple of times at Anfield during the 1990s, the decade belonged to us. Six league titles, four FA Cups, European Cup, Cup Winners’ Cup and a League Cup; two Doubles and a Treble. It’s hard to pick a victory over Liverpool between Eric’s winner in the 1996 FA Cup final to secure the first double Double or Ole’s injury time-winner in the FA Cup in 1999 [24 Jan at Old Trafford]. Both are awesome in so many similar, yet so many different ways.”

The Liverpool fan Nick Moore worked on the Liverpool matchday programme between 2001 and 2003. Now a freelance journalist and regular contributor to FourFourTwo, he still has sleepless nights recalling David James’s goalkeeping.

“My highlight – Liverpool 3 United 3, 4 January 1994 – doesn’t really qualify as a proper glorious moment: afterwards there was more a massive sense of relief that we hadn’t been totally humiliated. United were 3-0 up after 24 minutes and their fans were laughing in our faces. They’d just won the league for the first time in 26 years and it was horribly embarrassing – we just had to stand there and take it. We’d been taking the mick out of them for years about our domestic dominance and the boot was suddenly on the other foot.

“Our comeback was great for several reasons: it was extremely exciting, the best Liverpool-United game of the decade. We also scored three goals in front of the Kop, two from Nigel Clough and a heroic header from Neil Ruddock (who could barely walk after scoring). But the main reason was because it felt like we could compete with them, and perhaps were still at United’s level.

“As it happened, we weren’t anywhere close. But at that point it had only been four years since we’d last won the league and there was a general assumption that the natural order would soon be restored. A great game and a great night. Totally unlike the 1996 FA Cup final defeat. A loathsome, tedious game, with a hateful atmosphere outside and a terrible performance from a Liverpool team that had been playing brilliant and expansive football all season – a fact that gets lost amid the Spice Boys, white suits sneering nonsense. They were a genuinely good team – we were confident of winning – but they didn’t perform. Horrible. I still don’t like thinking about it.”

Power shift

The Ferguson era changed everything, as players like Andy Cole helped to knock Liverpool off their perch...

Honours: In the 1990s
United: League titles 5 (1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 1999), FA Cups 4 (1990, 1994, 1996, 1999), League Cups 1 (1992), Charity Shields 5 (1990 – shared with Liverpool, 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997), European Champions Leagues 1 (1999), European Cup Winners’ Cups 1 (1991), European Super Cups 1 (1991), Intercontinental Cups 1(1999)
Liverpool: League titles 1 (1990), FA Cups 1 (1992), League Cups 1 (1995), Charity Shields 1 (1990 – shared with United)
Title ticker: United 12, Liverpool 18

rondwisan

25-10-2009, 01:13 AM

Top five Liverpool-Manchester United classics
by Bobby Chew, Bleacher Report - October 23, 2009, 4:09 PM EDT

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There is no greater rivalry in English football than Liverpool and Manchester United.

The two most successful club sides in England will meet each other this Sunday at Anfield and, with Liverpool reeling from four successive defeats — their worst run since 1987 — Manchester United could not have hoped for a better time to avenge last season's results.

Having lost four times already in the league, Liverpool are facing a 'backs-to-the-wall' type game. Though the Liverpool players are no strangers to adversary and have always thrived when written off, this meeting with Manchester United may be a match that they would not look forward to.

Rafa Benitez could be staring at a fifth Premier League defeat, a loss that could potentially end Liverpool's chances of becoming league champions this season. The fragile defense is a worry for Liverpool and the midfield has been poor against stronger opposition.

The continued presence of Lucas in center midfield means that Liverpool will never offer any creative attacking thrust. Just why Benitez keep selecting him remains a mystery to all long-suffering Liverpool fans.

To make matters worse, the potential absence of both Gerrard and Torres this Sunday would render Liverpool's frontline toothless. It is worrying times at Anfield and Rafa will need to rally the troops in order to get something from the game. With problems in all areas of the team, even a draw on Sunday would be seen as a positive result for Liverpool.

Are we in for a classic? Hardly, but there have been some very entertaining matches which ended in draws between these two clubs.

Here are my top five classics of Liverpool-Manchester United draws:

1. Liverpool 3-3 Manchester United (January 4, 1994)

This amazing match had everything. In the space of 24 minutes, United had raced into a three-goal lead. Nigel Clough was the inspiration for Liverpool in this match. Lashing home from 25 yards and then running onto a loose ball to score a second 13 minutes later, he kept Liverpool in the match.

Neil Ruddock completed an unbelievable comeback with a powerful header 11 minutes from time and Anfield erupted, celebrating an unlikely stalemate.

2. Liverpool 3-3 Manchester United (April 4, 1998)

United traveled to Anfield 11 points adrift of champions-elect Liverpool, but the Red Devils still harbored hopes of overhauling their rivals. These hopes received a boost when Bryan Robson put United in front.

However, in a whirlwind spell either side of halftime, Peter Beardsley, Gary Gillespie and Steve McMahon netted for Liverpool. Robson dragged United back into the game with his second, only for the dismissal of Colin Gibson to deal them a potentially fatal blow.

Gordon Strachan had other ideas though, grabbing an equaliser 12 minutes from time. The rivalry between Alex Ferguson and Kenny Dalglish also grabbed headlines that day, with Dalglish claiming that his daughter Lauren made more sense than Fergie.

3. Manchester United 2-2 Liverpool (October 1, 1995)

Eric Cantona's return to first team football after the infamous kung fu kick was the highlight before the game. His assist brought the first goal for Manchester United. Roy Evans' Liverpool played magnificently against a United side which would go on to claim the double.

Robbie Fowler took center stage that afternoon, cancelling out Nicky Butt's early effort with a unstoppable shot.

He then scored a second, brushing off Gary Neville and then beating Peter Schmeichel with an exquisite lob. The script could not have been better written as Cantona, inevitably hit home a 71st minute penalty equaliser before twirling around the goal stanchion in celebration.

Liverpool, under Roy Evans, had a lot of talent but could not fulfil the promise shown during those "Spice Boys" period.

4. Liverpool 2-2 Manchester United (May 5, 1999)

United were locked in a head-to-head battle with Arsenal for the Premier League title and traveled to Anfield to face a Liverpool side with little left to play for in the season other than denying the Red Devils success and avenging their earlier FA Cup defeat.

United, though, appeared unflustered as a first half Yorke goal gave them the lead before Irwin doubled the advantage from the penalty spot on 56 minutes.

Liverpool were handed a lifeline when Jamie Redknapp hit home a controversial penalty to start Anfield rocking and Irwin then received his marching orders in equally dubious style to give the Kop a scent of a point. Former United ace Paul Ince duly obliged as he fired an equaliser with one minute remaining.

United, though, were to have the last laugh as they went on to pip Arsenal to the title by one point.

5. Manchester United 2-2 Liverpool (October 18, 1992)

Mark Hughes was Manchester United's hero with two goals in the final 11 minutes as the Old Trafford side clawed back from a two-goal deficit with fierce rivals Liverpool. Hughes struck in the 79th and 89th minutes to stun Graeme Souness' Merseysiders, who looked to be cruising to a comfortable victory.

There was some consolation though, as Ian Rush claimed the goalscoring record from Roger Hunt when he scored his 287th goal for Liverpool.

Can Liverpool get their defensive act together and start winning again? Should Rafa Benitez be held responsible for Liverpool's poor run due to questionable tactical formations and use of players?

Michael Owen will relish returning to Anfield and I am sure the Kop will give him a reception that he will not forget. Anfield comes alive in the big games and this Sunday should be no different.

rondwisan

26-10-2009, 08:47 AM

25/10/2009 18:14 - ManUtd.com, Steve Morgan
Red rivals: The 2000s

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Head-to-head, Liverpool actually had the better of United in the 2000s - their 2-0 win on 25 October 2009 tipping the balance in their favour over 23 games in all competitions. But when you compare silverware, it's a very different story...

Decade head to head
League: P20 W10 D2 L8
FA Cup: P1 W0 D0 L1
League Cup: P1 W0 D0 L1
Charity Shield: P1 W0 D0 L1
Overall: P23 W10 D2 L11

The United fan Pete Boyle

“Although Liverpool spoilt the party by defeating us a few times at Old Trafford, and beating us in the League Cup final in Cardiff in 2003 and even winning the European Cup again in 2005, the claim to be ‘back on their perch’ rings a bit hollow, as the number of their title-less years could move to 20 this season. The nightmare of that day in March at Old Trafford last season [the 4-1 home defeat, 14 March 2009] was somewhat eased by lifting the title for the third year in succession and equalling Liverpool's record of 18 league championships.

“The parallels between United’s great teams – at times – in the 1980s that couldn’t find the consistency required to lift the title – and were incapable of sustaining a challenge if Bryan Robson was out injured – are so similar to Liverpool’s reliance on Steven Gerrard, it’s untrue. As much as I hate Liverpool, I do have a grudging respect for what the club achieved during the 1970s and 1980s. I’m always proud that we achieved bigger crowds though, despite their success!”

The Liverpool fan Nick Moore

“It has to be Liverpool 3-1 United: 4 November 2001. An incredible atmosphere, two typical Michael Owen goals and a brilliant Riise blockbuster free-kick – he’d just signed and looked absolutely mustard (which sadly turned out not to be true). The terrible ‘John Arne Riise (ooh, aah) I wanna know how you scored that goal!’song was chanted with much vim all afternoon. It was pretty cheesy but it certainly annoyed the United fans. Also, we’d won our cup treble the year before and there was a feeling Gerard Houllier’s team was about to come good in the league.

“This turned out to be nonsense, but it felt nice at the time. You need hope – like in the League Cup final win in 2003. United were all over us but Jerzy Dudek pulled off loads of great saves. While the 1-0 win at Old Trafford the following season [24 April 2004] was satisfying (Danny Murphy’s goal derailed United’s league push that year), it’s always great to beat your biggest rivals in a final."

Reds still reign supreme
Sir Alex Ferguson celebrates after guiding United to league title 18 - the same number won by Liverpool. Now the race for 19 will take us into a new decade...

Honours
United: League titles 6 (2000, 2001, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2009), FA Cups 1 (2004), League cups 2 (2006, 2009), Charity/Community Shields 3 (2003, 2007, 2008), European Champions Leagues 1 (2008), Club World Cups 1 (2008)
Liverpool: FA Cups 2 (2001, 2006), League Cups 2 (2001, 2003), Charity Shields 2 (2001, 2006), European Champions Leagues 1 (2005), UEFA Cups 1 (2001), European Super Cups 2 (2001, 2005)
Title ticker: United 18, Liverpool 18

rondwisan

26-10-2009, 09:57 AM

more pics ..., just klick below yaa ... :peace:

http://www.unitedindonesia.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1073

bulebolsblue

31-10-2009, 12:17 AM

Tahukah Anda...?

Klub pertama yang menyanyikan lagu "You'll Never Walk Alone" sama sekali bukan Liverpool, melainkan oleh penggemar dari rival terberat mereka, Manchester United.

Lagu "You'll Never Walk Alone" ditulis oleh Richard Rodgers dan Oscar Hammerstein II untuk sebuah acara musik bernama Carousel pada 1945.

Kemudian pada 1958, lagu ini untuk pertama kalinya dikumandangkan oleh fans United dalam sebuah pertandingan di markas mereka, stadion Old Trafford. Kala itu, kelompok musisi New Mills Operatic Society menyiapkan lagu ini untuk musikal Carousel, dan mereka menyanyikan lagu ini pada pertandingan kandang United untuk menghormati 23 orang (termasuk delapan pemain United) yang tewas dalam tragedi kecelakaan pesawat di Munich pada 6 Februari 1958.

Fans United terus menyanyikan "You'll Never Walk Alone" hingga 1963, ketika band asal Liverpool Gerry & The Pacemakers merekam lagu ini untuk dirilis sebagai single. Lantas, para pendukung Setan Merah menghapus "You'll Never Walk Alone" dalam daftar nyanyian mereka.

Pada 4 November 1963, tembang "You'll Never Walk Alone" mencapai urutan teratas dalam daftar lagu pop di Inggris selama empat pekan, bahkan mengalahkan lagu "I Want To Hold Your Hand" karya The Beatles.

Selanjutnya, "You'll Never Walk Alone" diresmikan sebagai lagu 'kebangsaan' Liverpool, disusul klub lainnya yang menjadikan lagu tersebut sebagai anthem antara lain Hibernian dan Celtic (keduanya dari Skotlandia), Feyenoord dan FC Twente (keduanya Eredivisie Belanda), Club Brugge (Belgia), FSV Mainz 05 dan HSV Hamburg (keduanya Bundesliga Jerman) dan F.C. Tokyo (Jepang).

maaf kalo repost..hehe..

RedRob

31-10-2009, 02:32 AM

iya gan repost hehe.. tapi thanx anyway.. kalo ditaro di sini tetep sesuai konteks kok...

:beer:

choliffa

23-03-2010, 03:00 PM

The forgotten story of ... When Anfield was Manchester United's home ground

It is well known that Liverpool's ground was once home to Everton, but in 1971 United fans called the Kop their home end

Manchester United v Arsenal at Anfield 1971
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Even the matchday programme came replete with a picture of Bill Shankly and Liverpool's legends of the day. Photograph: Public Domain

On Friday 20 August 1971 a team wearing red walked out at Anfield to rapturous applause from supporters bedecked in red and white scarves and standing on the Spion Kop. Their opponents were Arsenal, who had beaten Bill Shankly's side 2-1 in the FA Cup final to secure the double in May of the same year. But the home side were not Liverpool. They were Manchester United.

Hidden deep within the pages of football's dustiest history books lurks a dark secret – or so it appears. The club that now boasts 18 league titles, the same number as Liverpool, could once call Anfield its home, just as Liverpool's great city rivals Everton did in the 1880s. In 1971, with United banned from playing their first two home matches in Manchester, after hooligans had thrown knives into the away section at a match at the end of the previous season, their opening "home" games would be played at Anfield and Stoke's Victoria Ground.

But so forgotten is this forgotten story that even some Manchester United players who took part in the 3-1 victory over Arsenal cannot remember doing so.

A lethargic first-half performance by a United side still trying to find its feet under a new manager, Frank O'Farrell, following Matt Busby's departure in June 1971, found themselves trailing to a fourth-minute Frank McLintock strike. United would enjoy a stirring comeback in the second half thanks to George Best's growing influence, which led to an equaliser deftly lifted over Arsenal's goalkeeper, Bob Wilson, by Alan Gowling. A United goal at Anfield celebrated by the home fans must be among the rarest things in football. So such a memorable occasion would be dear to Gowling, wouldn't it?

"I can't remember," he says. "Who did we play?" I remind him that it was Arsenal. "United played a home match at Anfield? Give over," he says, incredulous. So inconceivable does it seem that one can almost understand Gowling's reaction, but a picture in the Guardian of 21 August, 1971 clearly shows him leaping over Wilson to celebrate his goal, scored at the Anfield Road End.

Would David Sadler, who commanded United's defence, recall the occasion?

"Was I playing?" he says. "I just can't remember. Alex [Stepney, the Manchester United goalkeeper] might recall it. He's better at remembering matches than me."

Stepney tipped a shot from the diminutive Arsenal winger George Armstrong against the bar at the Kop end in the second half to keep United in the game at 1-1. Did he enjoy being the only Manchester United goalkeeper in history to feel the full support of United's fans emanating from the Kop?

"I vaguely remember that we had to play two games away from Old Trafford, but I can't recall that match," says Stepney, who made over 400 appearances for United. Perhaps there's some kind of conspiracy to hide the truth.

"I thought I'd only ever won one match at Anfield, when we beat Liverpool 4-1 [in December 1969] – so I can add a second win now," he says. "The only one I remember playing away from home was when we played a home match at Plymouth [Uefa banned United from playing their home leg of a Cup Winners' Cup match against St Etienne within 200km of Manchester, following crowd trouble during a 1-1 draw in France in 1977]."

The Manchester United captain, Bobby Charlton, scored his team's second goal at the Anfield Road End with a free-kick curled around the wall and into the left-hand corner of the net. Brian Kidd, who is now Manchester City's assistant manager, wrapped things up with a goal in the dying minutes.

One man who can just about recall the match is the "Voice of Anfield", George Sephton, Liverpool's stadium announcer who had started the job a week before. "I can still see the half-empty ground," he says. "It was spooky. I had just started, it was an extra match, it was Friday night so a bit of piece and quiet, I thought."

And what of Liverpool's famous anthem? Surely United's players didn't run out as the home team at Anfield to "You'll Never Walk Alone"?

"It was only the third game in my career," says Sephton. "I couldn't swear on the bible but I'm almost certain I didn't play 'You'll Never Walk Alone' at the game. It's been 'our' song since 1963! It was weird because Anfield felt like a neutral ground but from my perspective I was just happy that I had an extra couple of quid in my pocket because I was young, just married and was saving up for a house.

"I don't remember any trouble on the night. The enmity with United wasn't as bad in those days as it is now so it was nice to turn up and watch a game which you weren't bothered about in terms of the result. If it happened nowadays of course, I'd be cheering Arsenal on. But now they would just play the match behind closed doors."

The FA's decision to send United to play at Anfield in the wake of a hooliganism incident seems hare-brained now, but at the time hooliganism happened at most games and in any case, as the former Liverpool club secretary Peter Robinson, who helped organise the fixture, explained last year, the animosity didn't exist as it does today.

"When I started at Liverpool in the 1960s the great rivals were always Everton," said Robinson. "The rivalry has changed. It turned into Manchester United when they had this terrific emergence but before that I can remember them being relegated [in 1974] and having some really difficult times. I can also remember United supporters standing in the Kop. It wouldn't happen today, would it?"

The rivalry between groups of hooligans was still fierce however, even if the antipathy felt between real football supporters of both sides was not, and the front page of the Guardian the morning after the match carried the usual depressing news of trouble. "About 100 fans" were ejected from Anfield, according to the report, the windows of some houses in Anfield were smashed and "600 skinheads" were said to have been "kept in check" by police after throwing bricks at the United supporters as they were frogmarched back to Lime Street station and on to trains back to Manchester.

The Guardian correspondent Eric Todd's match report brimmed with frustration at the behaviour of the fans in the Kop and of the wider trouble that was prevalent in football in the 1970s.

"Once again, certain sections of the crowd, whatever their places of origin were the villains of the piece," he wrote. "And those psychiatrists, amateur or professional who spend many hours trying to explore the minds – the word is used quite loosely of course – of certain members of the footballing public would have enjoyed last night.

"As soon as the teams arrived on the field the Kop vomited scores of young 'supporters' of both sexes who ran down the field to the end where United were warming up. The police, although hopelessly outnumbered, did their best and removed as many as they could capture. When the invaders discovered that United would attack the Kop end they retraced their steps and suffered further losses."

United would suffer further losses too. Liverpool were given 15% of the gate receipts from the 27,649 fans who attended the game and United were instructed by the FA to pay Arsenal compensation, as the gate was below the 48,000 that attended the fixture at Old Trafford the previous year. (Until the 1980s, gate receipts for league games were shared). Even Everton stood to benefit if the crowd at Goodison Park was below 46,000 the next day, for their match against Sheffield United.

You can stop whispering now. The secret is out.

Guardian

semoga ga salah saya taruh disini.
dan semoga ga repost.
funny article, naming conspiracy theory cause none of the players remembered LOL

rondwisan

23-03-2010, 03:36 PM

thanks Sist ... :thumbup:

sampe disebut konspirasi untuk tidak mengingat (melupakan) partai tersebut ... :hammer:
jadi inget di rumah lama dulu pernah post mengenai 'black' United, cerita2x negatif seputar United yang bisa diterima atau tidak, memang ada ..., terutama masalah suap sih ... :(

yoshiharu_kubo10

23-03-2010, 06:11 PM

zeavhere

26-03-2010, 04:11 PM

hwhwhwhwh...aku juga baru tahu nih...kalau United pernah bermain dengan status sebagai tim tuan rumah di Anfield...

ga kebayang kan...kalau hal itu terjadi sekarang...pendukung Manchester United...di the Kop...hahahahah...sehabis pertandingan...bisa2 yang punya stadion...atau pemilik kursi terusan di the Kop bawa cairan pembersih dari rumah...wkwkwkwkwkwkwk...

tapi dulu...kita memang ga separah ini rivalitasnya dengan Liverpool...
iya nih bro, sama baru tahu ternyata dulu kita pernah ngandang disana :D

kalau sekarang mah, bisa hancur tuh stadion abis match nya MU :P . adanya si pendukungnya tuih merah bawa bahan bangunan buat bangun stadionnya lagi :D

rondwisan

26-03-2010, 04:17 PM

yaa klo sekarang mungkin warga Anfield juga akan menolak klo markasnya dijadiin host Red devils ... hehehe ... :peace:
:hajar3::hajar3::hajar3:

Hendy

27-03-2010, 03:38 AM

yaa klo sekarang mungkin warga Anfield juga akan menolak klo markasnya dijadiin host Red devils ... hehehe ... :peace:
:hajar3::hajar3::hajar3:

bayangin aja klo PERSIB markasnya di GBK :crazy:

wickham

27-03-2010, 10:46 AM

klo liat sejarahnya kayak gitu harusnya dah dari dulu Liverpool ganti lagu kebangssan.
cm knp ampe sekarang mereka masih pake y, klo gw kog rasanya gimana gitu.....

rondwisan

16-09-2010, 10:16 AM

MANCHESTER UNITED VS LIVERPOOL
First XI: Best of enemies
Soccernet, Robin Hackett - September 15, 2010

The North West cities of Liverpool and Manchester have held a rivalry since their battle for supremacy in the industrial era and, with Sir Alex Ferguson in particular having fired things up on the football side, the enmity between the clubs has grown and grown.

Ahead of Sunday's Premier League meeting, ESPNsoccernet selects the First XI flashpoints between the sides in recent decades.

Ferguson sees Red - 1980

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Terry McDermott (seen through the net in light shirt) scored a wonder goal in the first leg at Pittodrie

There's little doubt that Ferguson has played a significant role in ramping up the rivalry between the two clubs, but it's said that his bad feeling for the Reds actually pre-dates his arrival at Old Trafford in 1986.

Ferguson's Aberdeen side suffered a rude awakening in the second round of the European Cup in 1980 and, before the first leg at Pittodrie, Ferguson said: "Obviously, this is the biggest thing for Aberdeen since the discovery of oil. The fans see it as a straight Anglo-Scottish battle. Liverpool are not unbeatable."

The Dons were, however, beaten 1-0 in the first leg courtesy of Terry McDermott's goal, which came while John McMaster lay injured. The midfielder suffered ligament damage as a result of Ray Kennedy's tackle and then spent the next 18 months on the sidelines.

If that was not enough to spark Ferguson's ire, his side were then comprehensively outclassed in the second leg at Anfield, losing 4-0, and Reds boss Bob Paisley mocked the visitors afterwards. "If it had been a late kick-off, I'd say we played brilliantly," he said. "I thought the players were selling newspapers in the first half hour. They made Aberdeen look better than they are."

'Choking on their own vomit' - 1988

Having seen Colin Gibson sent off in a 3-3 draw at Anfield, Ferguson complained that visiting managers "have to leave here choking on their own vomit - biting on their tongue, afraid to tell the truth". He added: "To win here, you have to surmount a lot of pressure, a lot of obstacles and, if you want to blame the referee, you can't say so. The provocation and intimidation he is under are incredible. To win here is a miracle."

Given Liverpool's undoubted superiority at the time, Kenny Dalglish was able to resist the mind-games and, holding his baby in his arms, replied simply that the media "would get more sense out of my six-week-old daughter, Lauren".

They were not Ferguson's only comments in that period to suggest he was determined to remove Liverpool from their throne. In August 1988, he warned that life would "change for Liverpool and everyone else - dramatically" when he fulfilled his "mission" with United, while little over a year later, he warned again that he was "not going to accept Liverpool's dominance".

Dalglish snaps - 1994

While Dalglish, a very private man, may have convinced the public he had no quarrel with Ferguson during his Anfield days, some of that composure was lost during his time at Blackburn.

It's been claimed that the duo rowed furiously when, following the news that his friend Alan Hansen had been dropped, Dalglish pulled out of the Scotland squad for the 1986 World Cup through an apparent injury. It's said they rowed during Aberdeen's European Cup thrashing at Anfield six years earlier, too.

As rival managers, there was a story that Dalglish swore at Ferguson in a confrontation during the aforementioned 3-3 draw in 1988, but the Liverpool boss threatened a libel action against the newspaper that published it. He was also said to have criticised Ferguson in front of journalists around the same time, but he called a paper afterwards to label it "one incident blown up out of all proportion".

In 1994, though, when Dalglish was at Blackburn, the mask finally slipped. The usually reserved Dalglish, already riled after United signed Roy Keane from under their noses the previous summer, used a press conference in March to launch into what was described in The Observer as a "fearsome tirade against Ferguson and United, sarcastic and sneering". Among other remarks, Dalglish claimed "the people" wanted Blackburn to beat United to the title and that Fergie's suggestion Rovers would crack under the pressure was an "insult".

One of Dalglish's former team-mates, who wasn't named, told The Observer: "There was always the Liverpool-Manchester United thing, but nobody thought they had any time for each other." Another added: "We always felt he was particularly keen to beat Manchester United."

Phlegm and a flailing fist - 1996

By the end of the 1996 season, United were becoming firmly established as England's top side after winning their third title in four seasons and, thanks to an 85th-minute effort from Eric Cantona in the FA Cup final, they completed their second Double.

Liverpool's supporters did not react well to their side's abdication. As Cantona climbed Wembley's 39 steps to collect the FA Cup, a Reds fan spat in his direction and, worse, another supporter then attempted to punch Ferguson. FA chief executive Graham Kelly admitted afterwards that there was "a problem with players walking past rival fans", although Fergie joked that the fan "obviously doesn't know how good I am at fighting".

'Knocking them off their f****** perch' - 2002

In a 2002 interview with the Guardian, Ferguson finally admitted: "My greatest challenge was knocking Liverpool right off their f****** perch. And you can print that."

He has now come close to achieving that aim, having matched Liverpool's 18 league titles, but Jamie Carragher rejected Ferguson's claim to his greatest achievement earlier this month. "He never knocked Liverpool off their f****** perch," he said. "That's nonsense, that. Graeme Souness did that."

Rooney Kops a new phone - 2005

Wayne Rooney brought an extra dollop of hatred to the rivalry. In comments published on United's official website in 2009, he said: "I grew up an Everton fan, my whole family are Everton fans, and I grew up hating Liverpool - and that hasn't changed." United withdrew the remark the same day.

His feelings towards the Reds, though, had never been in doubt. On his first trip to Anfield as a Red Devil, he cupped his hands to his ears in the direction of the Kop having scored what proved to be the only goal of the game, causing one irate fan throw his mobile phone at him - prompting an arrest.

Gary Neville's thrusting - 2006

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Gary Neville holds a coin he claims was thrown at him in an FA Cup clash at Anfield in February 2006

"I can't stand Liverpool. I can't stand Liverpool people. I can't stand anything to do with them." The embodiment of rabid mutual hatred between the clubs, Neville has put his own safety in jeopardy in defence of his right to badmouth United's arch-rivals.

After a group of Liverpool fans tried to overturn his car after spotting him stuck in traffic near Old Trafford, an unusually clear-headed Neville said during the 1999-2000 season: "I think I'm probably better off keeping my mouth shut about Liverpool from now on because I keep getting myself in trouble. I keep getting death threats."

His instinct towards self-preservation was seemingly forgotten by January 2006, when he reacted to an injury-time winner from Rio Ferdinand at Old Trafford by charging towards the visiting Liverpool supporters, thrusting his pelvis and kissing the badge.

Greater Manchester Police wrote a letter "expressing concern" that his actions had exacerbated crowd problems and he was fined £5,000 by the FA, but he remained characteristically defiant, asking: "Do they want a game of robots?"

Last week, though, Neville was striking a more conciliatory tone with the Reds in favour of his growing hatred for Manchester City. "I have more respect for their traditions than I would for some of the other clubs coming onto the scene throwing a load of money at it," he told MUTV, admitting he was "jealous" of Liverpool's success as a United-supporting youngster.

Ambulance attacks and a cup of poo - 2006

In February 2006, Liverpool fans attacked an ambulance containing Alan Smith with bottles, beer glasses and stones while chanting "Munich scum" in reference to the deaths of eight United players half a century earlier. Ferguson said Smith, who has never been the same player since breaking his leg and dislocating his ankle that day, had some of the worst injuries he had ever seen.

It also emerged that United fans had written to Liverpool after the game to complain that they had been pelted with excrement during their trip to Anfield. Liverpool stadium and operations manager Ged Poynton subsequently admitted: "We hold our hands up as a club. We deplore what certain fans have done. I am ashamed to admit in one case excrement was thrown. How low can you get? We did what we could. We tried to brush people down and compensate those involved."

Gabriel Heinze's letter - 2007

Once a terrace favourite, Heinze committed the ultimate sin in the eyes of the United fans in 2007 when he demanded a move to Anfield.

No player has crossed the divide since Phil Chisnall headed to Liverpool in 1964, but Heinze invited the Premier League to help push the move through on account of the fact he claimed to have a letter from the United chief executive, David Gill, saying he could join any club that met his asking price. United stood firm and Heinze eventually ended up at Real Madrid.

'Facts' - 2009

Rafael Benitez developed a reputation for dull, non-committal answers in interviews during his time at Anfield, but the assembled journalists were in for an almighty shock when he arrived at Melwood, script in hand, to deliver a five-minute speech setting out myriad "facts" about United's stranglehold on the game.

Its message actually bore notable similarity to Fergie's own rant of 1988, but it has been most widely compared to Liverpool legend Kevin Keegan's "love it" meltdown in the 1995-96 season when Newcastle were battling United for the title.

Keegan's rant came at the end of a three-match winning streak for Newcastle, and they then drew their remaining two games to finish four points behind United. Liverpool, meanwhile, had beaten Bolton 3-0 and Newcastle 5-1 before Rafa's press conference, and they went on to draw the games that followed against Stoke, Everton and Wigan as they also finished four points adrift.

Fifteen Minutes That Shook the World - 2009

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This comedy film celebrating Liverpool's 2005 Champions League triumph over AC Milan involved a couple of less-than-subtle jibes at Ferguson and Neville: whisky-swilling drunk 'McTaggart' becomes suicidal after the Reds' stunning comeback and one of his players, 'Rat Boy', sings a song about his hatred of Liverpudlians.

Amusingly, it wasn't merely a fans' project - Steven Gerrard, Jamie Carragher and Didi Hamann all made cameo appearances, while Rafael Benitez - who was portrayed by Liverpudlian Peep Show actor Neil Fitzmaurice - went along to the premiere, laughed hysterically throughout the screening and then apparently continued to chuckle his way through some post-film interviews.

sellamanyaunited

16-09-2010, 08:18 PM

rivalitas tanpa batas deh ama yg merah merseyside haha
sampe kapanpun kayaknya emang udah melekat dimasing2 fans united dan pool
classic match selalu tegang

drivemein

18-09-2010, 12:44 AM

Top ten Red v Red
-skysports.com-

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Skysports.com counts down ten memorable games between Manchester United and Liverpool over the years.

Liverpool travel to Old Trafford on Sunday for the latest game in a series between two teams who share one of the greatest rivalries in football. Manchester United currently have the edge with 69 victories to the Merseysiders' 60, while there have been 50 draws. Supporters are mainly interested, of course, in the most recent result as they look to secure North West bragging rights for the next few months. There have been so many classic encounters over the years that narrowing it down to the ten best of all time would be a mind-boggling exercise, so skysports.com is instead recalling some of the most memorable since the Premier League started.

Manchester United 2 Liverpool 2 - October 1992

The rivalry was already well-established by the time the sides met for the first time in the new-look Premier League, serving up a thrilling four-goal draw at Old Trafford. Don Hutchison and Ian Rush fired Liverpool into a 2-0 lead at half-time and it looked like the points were safe as they held firm until deep into the second period. But as is so often the case in these games there was late drama, with Mark Hughes reducing United's arrears in the 78tth minute and then netting an equaliser just before the final whistle.

Liverpool 3 Manchester United 3 - January 1994

United were undeniably the dominant force in English football at this time as they defended their league title and Liverpool slumped to a disappointing eighth-placed finish, but the Anfield outfit still raised their game for this midwinter cracker. Such a scoreline had appeared unthinkable when United roared into a three-goal lead thanks to Steve Bruce, Ryan Giggs and a Denis Irwin free-kick, but Nigel Clough struck twice to set up a rousing finale and Neil Ruddock headed home late on to cap a remarkable fightback.

Manchester United 2 Liverpool 2 - October 1995

Another classic which ended all square as flamboyant Frenchman Eric Cantona took centre stage on his return from a ten-month suspension for his infamous attack on a fan at Selhurst Park. The United legend set up Nicky Butt for an early opener but then faded out of the limelight as Robbie Fowler produced the sort of sublime performance that was a common occurrence during his Liverpool heyday, scoring twice to put the visitors in front. But ultimately it was Cantona who had the last laugh, slotting home a penalty to salvage a precious point.

Liverpool 1 Manchester United 3 - April 1997

Gary Pallister, renowned as one of the finest centre-backs in the business, made an impact at the other end of the pitch with an unlikely double as United took the honours away from home. Billed as a likely title race decider, the Red Devils were soon in front when Pallister headed home a David Beckham cross. John Barnes brought Liverpool level before Pallister found the target again, and a howler from David James allowed Andy Cole to secure the points and leave Anfield in silence.

Manchester United 0 Liverpool 1 - December 2000

Liverpool had gone ten games without a win against United prior to this meeting but that just made success all the sweeter as a delightful Danny Murphy free-kick proved good enough. The key moment came just before half-time and the visitors hung on for victory as Gerard Houllier's promise that 'we will beat them one day' came true. Liverpool went on to enjoy a splendid campaign by emerging triumphant in the League Cup, FA Cup and Uefa Cup.

Liverpool 3 Manchester United 1 - November 2001

The atmosphere at these games is always special but on this occasion the Anfield faithful were in better voice than ever to rally their troops. Houllier had just fallen ill and Liverpool were in need of a lift. They responded with a wonderful performance as Michael Owen struck twice and John Arne Riise smashed in a spectacular free-kick, meaning David Beckham's effort was mere consolation.

Manchester United 4 Liverpool 0 - April 2003

An unusually one-sided affair as the Red Devils ran riot at home. Ruud van Nistelrooy did much of the damage with a brace of penalties, while Ryan Giggs and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer also scored. The writing was on the wall as early as the fifth minute when Sami Hyypia was sent off for a foul in the box and Van Nistelrooy tucked away his first spot-kick. Liverpool managed to stay in the game for another hour before the Dutchman netted again to completely kill off the contest.

Manchester United 3 Liverpool 0 - March 2008

United closed in on another title with a dominant display at home, and again the match turned on a Liverpool player being sent off. Javier Mascherano was the man given his marching orders this time after a foolish show of dissent just before half-time, although Wes Brown had already opened the scoring. Cristiano Ronaldo headed home United's second late on but there was still time for Portuguese compatriot Nani to pile on more misery with a fine finish.

Manchester United 1 Liverpool 4 - March 2009

Liverpool overturned the reigning champions at Old Trafford to claim one of their finest results in recent years, with Fernando Torres at his brilliant best to inspire an emphatic win. United took control early on thanks to a Ronaldo penalty but the Merseysiders came storming back thanks to goals from Torres, who tormented Nemanja Vidic all afternoon, Steven Gerrard, Fabio Aurelio and Andrea Dossena. The result reignited Liverpool's title hopes, although ultimately they fell just short as United held their nerve.

Liverpool 2 Manchester United 0 - October 2009

The pressure was mounting on Rafa Benitez after an awful sequence of results for Liverpool but they bounced back in style courtesy of goals from Torres and David Ngog. Spanish star Torres again rose to the occasion by breaking the deadlock with a classy effort, having raced away from Rio Ferdinand to lash the ball past Edwin van der Sar. Ngog got in on the act during a remarkable climax which also saw Vidic and Mascherano shown red cards, not for the first time in this fixture.

sellamanyaunited

18-09-2010, 09:13 AM

2 partai terakhir kita kalah kandang-tandang niih ama pool.
sakit ati apalagi pas iOt kalah 1-4
harus bales dendam neh.
kaloperlu kita menangin 2 partai kandang-tandang musim inilawan the kop ini

go go united
opa fergie jelas lebih berpengalaman soal ketemu the reds ini ketimbang si manajer baru hodgson

GL zone

18-09-2010, 09:57 AM

rondwisan

18-09-2010, 09:59 AM

sellamanyaunited

18-09-2010, 11:15 AM

koreksi Non ...
itu di 2 musim lalu (2008/2009)
untuk musim lalu (2009/2010), skor kita sama kok ... 1-1 (masing2x menang di kandang)

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partai terakhir kan kita menang 2-1 di OT
yg sebelum ny justru kalah 2-0 di anfield

oh iya benerbener.
yg kalah 4-1 kan itu 2 musim lalu pas masih ada ronaldo
makasih koreksinya tante galuh dan opa hehe

kalo kita bisa menang dikandang musim lalu seharusnya musim ini juga ya
mungkin lebih hebat lagi kalo bisa menang kandang-tandang bisa naikin moral tim dan liverpool berhasil kita bisa pecundangi

rondwisan

23-09-2010, 01:11 AM

Andy Mitten column
MEN - September 22, 2010

Half an hour after Sunday’s final whistle at Old Trafford, the 3,000 strong Liverpool following spilled out of the away end and across the rain soaked forecourt towards their coaches.

Despite a large police presence which prevented disorder, United fans goaded them with cries of ‘Murderers,’ while chants about the Munich Air Disaster proliferated from the visitors.

It was base, pernicious bile, an illustration of that there’s no love lost between United and Liverpool.

But United have got far more in common with Liverpool than people would like to admit. So how will history remember the lily-livered legislation which allowed the two biggest and most successful English teams to be taken over by Americans and plunged into hundreds of millions of pounds of debts?

We know well what has happened at Old Trafford but it’s even worse at Liverpool. Football fans are fickle. The notion of a fit and proper owner is irrelevant if they offer to spend £30m on a striker.

Liverpool fans saw their team dominate in the 1970s and 80s, but their last league title was in 1990. By 2007, their chairman admitted that he didn’t have deep enough pockets to build a new Anfield to help them compete with the revenues at United and Arsenal. So he sold the club to two Yanks.

Unlike at United, where the Glazer takeover caused an outcry, desperate Liverpool fans bought their vision, yet not a sod of terra firma has been turned for the club who need a new home. The Scouse welcome afforded to owners Gillette and Hicks turned into protests and the club is up for sale.

I take no pride in Liverpool’s misery. Their owners are tearing the heart out a proud club with a rich past. Unless you’re a short-sighted clown who likes to see rival teams go under, this goes beyond football rivalries.

The authorities should never have allowed Liverpool and United to be bought and burdened with debt. The Americans saw opportunities and took advantage. We are only just beginning to find out the scale of the disasters which might lie ahead.

I hope United demolish Liverpool every time they meet. Sunday was sweet but I want a strong United to be able to meet and beat them as worthy foes. And for that reason alone, Liverpool fans deserve better.

siemen martin

23-09-2010, 01:15 AM

rivalitas tanpa batas deh ama yg merah merseyside haha
sampe kapanpun kayaknya emang udah melekat dimasing2 fans united dan pool
classic match selalu tegang

sampe kiamat pun,,loserpool gk akan menang !!!:putra::putra::putra::putra::putra::putra::putr a::putra::putra:

Abez George

23-09-2010, 04:39 AM

sampe kiamat pun,,loserpool gk akan menang !!!:putra::putra::putra::putra::putra::putra::putr a::putra::putra:

Sepakat...
:poys::ui2::poys::ui2:

The King

25-09-2010, 01:47 AM

hahaha...

dari dulu Duel Full of Hate ini selalu ramai dan panas jika di amati,
bagaimana tidak dalam kurung waktu kurang lebih 20 thn terakhir gelar Liverpool di samai oleh MANCHESTER UNITED

ini adalah sebuah prestisius yg benar2 bikin pride buat kita fans UNITED!
jadi ingat keputusan Wazza ke Man Utd
"melanjutkan tradisi sebagai keluarga pembenci Liverpool"

:muflag:

rondwisan

27-09-2010, 12:12 AM

taken from SkySport ...

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hellangelboyz

12-02-2011, 12:45 PM

rondwisan

06-03-2011, 01:04 PM

A rivalry in deepest red
Soccernet, Robin Hackett - March 3, 2011

Ahead of Manchester United's visit to Liverpool on Sunday, we put together a selection of some of the greatest contests between the sides.

Manchester United 3-4 Liverpool (Division One, 1910)

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The Sporting Chronicle's correspondent said Old Trafford was "the most remarkable arena I have ever seen" at the ground's opening

The newspapers had raved about Old Trafford ahead of its grand opening in 1910. The attendance figure for the game was estimated at up to 50,000, with trams struggling to cope with the numbers and around 5,000 forcing their way in without paying amid the crush. Inside the ground, a band played to mark a grand occasion.

United started the game in fine form and were two goals to the good inside half an hour but, on a quick surface that seemed to suit Liverpool the better, the visitors ultimately proved superior and - with the game tied at 3-3 - James Stewart scored his second of the game to give the visitors a 4-3 win. "Fancy lettin' Liverpool lick 'em at 'ome," The Guardian reported one disgruntled supporter as saying.

Manchester United 6-1 Liverpool (First Division, 1928)

In an incredibly tight First Division season, United had gone into the final day of the season sitting bottom of the table with the worst goal average in the division. Only a victory over Liverpool could make certain their survival and, having taken a solitary point in their five meetings with the Reds since their return to the top flight in 1925, many had been sceptical over their chances.

It had been suggested a new-look side would be necessary going forwards, and United released seven players on free transfers in the days leading up to the game, including Frank Barson, the legendary hardman and inspirational captain who had steered them to promotion three years previously.

Remarkably, United recorded their biggest victory of the season, and were 4-1 up by half-time. Liverpool, assured of their top-flight status but having endured a difficult season, had fought hard throughout the first half and were unfortunate to have scored only goal. A goal in the 49th minute, though, ended the contest, and United moved up four places in the table, level on points with Liverpool.

Liverpool 1-1 Manchester United (Division One, 1970)

George Best devoted much space to Bill Shankly and his mind-games in his 1994 book The Best of Times: My Favourite Football Stories and, though factual inaccuracies can make Best's tales appear apocryphal, one story of a team talk has also been recounted by Ian St John and Shankly himself.

"I was chatting to Liverpool's Ray Clemence, who revealed to me another piece of Shankly kidology," Best wrote. "Prior to the game, Shankly had received the United team sheet and he incorporated it into his team talk. His intention was to run us down and, in so doing, boost the confidence of his own players."

Best's account sees Shankly run through the United side dismissing player after player - "Paddy Crerand. Slower than steam rising off a dog turd. You'll bypass him easily" - before he is interrupted by one of his players.

"Emlyn Hughes raised his hand. 'That's all very well, boss,' he said, 'but you haven't mentioned George Best, Denis Law or Bobby Charlton.' Shanks turned on him. 'You mean to tell me we can't beat a team that has only three players in it?' he said, glowering."

Best claims the talk took place ahead of a 2-0 defeat for his side at Anfield in October 1968, but the fact both he and Law were absent that day suggests his memory failed him, and the full team sheet as described in the anecdote cannot be matched to another game of the era.

A more likely match - given that Best, Law and Charlton all featured and the game was played, as Best claimed, at Anfield - was the 1-1 draw in the 1970-71 season. Brian Kidd had given United the lead on 20 minutes, but Alun Evans equalised two minutes later, prompting a flood of Liverpool chances and, late in the game, an impassioned penalty appeal for the hosts. "Surely Manchester United will never again this season endure such sustained pressure and come away with a point," the match report in The Guardian read.

Liverpool 1-2 Manchester United (FA Cup final, 1977)

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Liverpool, having just been crowned league champions, had the chance to complete a Treble as they prepared to face United in the FA Cup final and Borussia Monchengladbach in the European Cup final within the space of five days.

Emlyn Hughes, the Liverpool captain, had warned that the players would struggle to recover from a defeat in the FA Cup final: "If we beat United to add the cup to the league title, then we'll go on to complete the treble, but defeat will make it very difficult for us to beat Monchengladbach. We're playing at Wembley for two trophies."

Liverpool were defeated at Wembley. In a dramatic five-minute spell that brought three goals, Liverpool scored a fine goal through Jimmy Case in between two defensive errors that allowed United to clinch a 2-1 win.

With just one change, though, the Reds secured a 3-1 victory to take the European Cup in Rome.

Liverpool 2-1 Manchester United (League Cup final, 1983)

Liverpool and Manchester United were considered the crème de la crème of English football ahead of this final, with United manager Ron Atkinson saying that, while he felt it "impossible to think of exposing a weakness in their team", there would "not be a hair's breadth between the two teams at Wembley".

Making his 12th Wembley appearance in nine seasons at Anfield, Bob Paisley knew he was taking charge of his last major final: Liverpool had exited the FA Cup to Brighton and the European Cup to Widzew Lodz in the weeks prior to the game.

It appeared the disappointment was set to continue as United, having started nervously, went ahead through Norman Whiteside in the 12th minute. "The little breaks have not been going our way lately and, when their goal went in and we put a good chance over the bar, I had the feeling that this is where we came in," Paisley later said.

Liverpool, though, dominated the second half and forced extra-time through Alan Kennedy 's long-distance strike. United, having suffered a number of injuries and with two strikers at centre back, were on their last legs as Ronnie Whelan netted the winner in the 98th minute.

"When we scored the equaliser, it was a question of taking the game into extra time before we killed them off," Paisley said. "I felt like a bullfighter going for the last stab after the bull had 40 arrows in its back."

Manchester United 2-1 Liverpool (FA Cup semi-final, 1985)

The 1985 FA Cup semi-final between Liverpool and United at Goodison Park was marred by violence: two fans were stabbed and two policeman injured, while a flare was fired at United supporters and Jesper Olsen was struck by a missile while taking a corner. The game itself, though, brought stunning drama as, having forced extra-time with four minutes to spare through Ronnie Whelan, Paul Walsh then scored the Reds' second equaliser to make it 2-2 in the 120th minute.

Liverpool boss Joe Fagan called for more "devil" from his European Cup-winning side for the replay at Maine Road and his side had the lead at half-time as Paul McGrath - hailed by both managers ahead of the game - headed into his own net. However, in a replay that brought equal excitement and greater quality, United were again the stronger team, and they were back on level terms two minutes after the break: Bryan Robson strode into the Liverpool half and unleashed a 25-yard shot into the top corner.

Mark Hughes then decided the game as he fired home from the edge of the penalty area in the 57th minute, although replays showed he was offside. Ron Atkinson described the decision as "marginal", although a disgruntled Alan Hansen felt it was rather more clear-cut: "The second goal was ten yards offside."

At the final whistle, exultant fans mobbed Robson as the following day's Daily Express hailed "a soccer spectacular that was a raw embodiment of the best British football has to offer".

Liverpool 2-0 Manchester United (Division One, 1992)

United, with their best chance of winning the title for a quarter of a century, appeared to be doing all in their power to throw it away as the 1991-92 season approached its climax. Having lost their previous two games and with two still to play, United trailed Leeds by a single point ahead of a trip to Anfield.

Ian Rush scored the opener - his first ever goal against United - before Mark Walters sealed the win three minutes from time. The result denied United and confirmed Leeds, another of their bitter rivals, as the champions. "You lost the league on Merseyside," the Reds fans chanted. "You'll never win the title."

Liverpool 3-3 Manchester United (Premiership, 1994)

United, comfortable at the top of the table having suffered only one defeat in the first half of the season, ran up an early three-goal lead at Anfield before Liverpool produced one of the finest comebacks English football has seen.

Steve Bruce opened the scoring on nine minutes, Ryan Giggs extended the advantage with a stupendous effort, and Denis Irwin looked to have made sure of victory with just 23 minutes on the clock as he expertly fired in a free-kick. By half-time, though, the Reds were back in it courtesy of Nigel Clough, who hit a stunning goal from 35 yards before adding his second on 38 minutes.

With his side trailing 3-2, Graeme Souness was asked at half-time whether his side could recover. He responded merely by pointing to the sign that marks the tunnel: "This is Anfield."

On 79 minutes, the comeback was complete as Neil Ruddock headed home. Even Alex Ferguson, deeply frustrated at his side's collapse, said: "That was incredible stuff. The excitement, the pace of it. The crowd had them at fever pitch."

Manchester United 2-2 Liverpool (Premiership, 1995)

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Eric Cantona celebrates after converting a penalty on his return

Eric Cantona, having served an eight-month ban for attacking a supporter the previous season, made his return to first-team action against United's arch-rivals in October 1995.

There were fears over the reception he would receive from opposing players and supporters ahead of his comeback - "Security at away matches is something we have had to think about," Alex Ferguson said - and a North-West derby was to provide a stern test of his temper.

Liverpool defender Neil Ruddock had successfully provoked Cantona during the teams' meeting the previous season when he turned down the striker's trademark upturned collar and elbowed him in the face, and there were concerns of a repeat.

"He's had a tough time, so let's hope the other players and fans give him the sort of reaction that will make him want to stay in the English game," United skipper Steve Bruce said, somewhat naively. "Let's enjoy him."

The game against Liverpool, though, took place in unusual circumstances: restricted capacity at Old Trafford while building work was carried out meant an absence of away supporters. There was also no sign of provocation from the opposition players during the match.

Cantona excelled. He provided an assist for Nicky Butt to score the opener after just 67 seconds and, although Robbie Fowler then threatened to take the headlines as two fine goals turned the match on its head, the Frenchman would have the last word.

With 20 minutes to play, Cantona played in Ryan Giggs, who was brought down in the area. Cantona placed the ball on the spot - "Who was going to take it off him?" Ferguson asked - and slotted home the penalty to secure a point for his side.

Liverpool 2-2 Manchester United (Premiership, 1999)

On May 5, just three weeks before United completed their famous Treble, Paul Ince looked to have delivered a serious blow to his former side's title hopes as his 89th-minute equaliser kept the Red Devils three points behind Arsenal in second. With a game in hand, and three games left to play, it was far from a terminal blow, but there was a sense that their challenge had been derailed.

Gerard Houllier, whose Liverpool side had been in need of a victory to maintain hopes of European qualification, said: "It's a bloody good result for our supporters."

United had been two goals to the good in the game when referee David Elleray took centre stage. First awarding a dubious penalty as Jesper Blomqvist was adjudged to have fouled Oyvind Leonhardsen, he then harshly handed Denis Irwin a second yellow card in the 75th minute for kicking the ball away. The decision, which ruled Irwin out of the FA Cup final, came despite apparent uncertainty over whether the ball was out of play at the time he kicked it.

Liverpool, who had looked toothless in the absence of both Michael Owen and Robbie Fowler, then clinched an unlikely point when Ince slid in.

Alex Ferguson, having been on the wrong end of a number of Elleray's decisions over the years, was furious: "The referee has handed it to them and that's very disappointing. It also doesn't do our game much good. That is the kind of man we have had here, but we're not going to let him deny us winning the title."

United chairman Martin Edwards, speaking three days after the game, was less certain: "If Arsenal or Chelsea win the Premiership this season by either one or two points, I trust they will strike a special commemorative medal for Mr Elleray because he will have done it for them."

United, of course, went on to take the league, FA Cup and Champions League, while Edwards escaped censure for his remarks.

Liverpool 2-0 Manchester United (League Cup final, 2003)

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Sir Alex Ferguson hailed Jerzy Dudek as "absolutely fantastic" after United's defeat

Liverpool, in the midst of a disappointing season, managed to turn the pressure onto United in the 2002-03 season as they came out triumphant at the Millennium Stadium.

United, while unbeaten in the league since Boxing Day, had exited the FA Cup with defeat to Arsenal in February and, ahead of the Worthington Cup final, trailed the Gunners by eight points in the league. A defeat to Liverpool meant Sir Alex Ferguson faced the prospect of a second successive season without a trophy.

Steven Gerrard and Michael Owen scored the goals in the final, but 'keeper Jerzy Dudek - derided after a pair of blunders in a 2-1 United win at Anfield three months earlier - proved the hero on the day as his saves kept United at bay.

"To lose a final against Liverpool is always bad," Ruud van Nistelrooy said. "I've got a miserable feeling throughout my body about last Sunday's final. I know you have to look forward, but it's so difficult. All I think about is the final. It's difficult to stay positive."

Nonetheless, Ferguson - whom Houllier described as "a great manager and a great man" after he congratulated the Liverpool players at the end of the game - had been defiant: "People can either accept defeat and go away or they can fight back."

United remained unbeaten in the league for the rest of the season before finishing five points clear of Arsenal at the top of the table.

Ucup Carrick

10-10-2011, 05:12 PM

momen saat dibantai 1-4 di OT...
dan juga kuyt hattrick...

wow...itu momen berkesan sekali buat pudlian...

red_girl_mia

10-10-2011, 05:51 PM

momen saat dibantai 1-4 di OT...
dan juga kuyt hattrick...

wow...itu momen berkesan sekali buat pudlian...

tentunya buat kita juga, (COP)
kedatengan bule puldian di venue nonbar Mobie saat itu,
dan mati listrik, terpaksa pake ginset. abis idup sudah makin bertambah skornya.

very bad bad night!!

dan besok even pembalasan! optimis menang!!!! :x:x:x

robby7beckham

10-10-2011, 07:05 PM

Sepakat...
:poys::ui2::poys::ui2:

sepakat sekali :D
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rondwisan

13-10-2011, 08:50 AM

12/10/2011 10:27 - ManUtd.com, Adam Marshall
We loved beating Liverpool

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The Greenhoff brothers - Jimmy and Brian - spoke to Inside United recently about their careers at United.

Inevitably, many of their answers focused on successful times against bitter rivals and Saturday's opponents Liverpool. Preventing the Merseysiders from doing the Treble in 1977 was obviously a career highlight for the Barnsley-born siblings, with Jimmy grabbing the Wembley winner in the FA Cup final.

What was your favourite game?

Jimmy: Liverpool were arguably the best team in the world at that time, and I scored the winner three times against them – in the 1977 FA Cup final, the 1979 Cup semi-final and in a league match [5 April 1980]. I knew how much that meant to United fans. Liverpool didn’t like playing against us, but they had consistency to beat other teams, which we didn’t have.

Brian: There are lots that stand out, but you are judged by what you win so I would have to say the 1977 FA Cup final, though there were other games in which I had played far better.

Who did you score your favourite goal against?

Jimmy: It would have to be the lucky one I scored against Liverpool at Wembley in the 1977 FA Cup final. It was special as it helped us win the Cup, and supporters still thank me because it meant so much to them. The one I scored in the FA Cup semi-final replay against Liverpool at Goodison Park two years later was also memorable because we were underdogs. Many people thought we’d blown our chance in the first game, a 2-2 draw at Maine Road.

Which team did you most want to beat?

Jimmy: As I mentioned earlier, it was Liverpool because the rivalry between the two clubs was starting to intensify and even become grudge-like.
Strangely, that was something that didn’t happen when we played Manchester City.

Brian: Many of the players wanted to beat Liverpool, but for the players who had come through the ranks at United, like myself, City were the big enemies. We didn’t just want to beat them, we wanted to walk all over them.

What is your fondest United memory?

Jimmy: I appeared for Leeds United in the semi-final of the FA Cup [1967], but to reach the final for the first time and score – as I did against Liverpool in 1977 – is something I will never forget. The goal against Liverpool in the semi-final replay two years later runs it close.

Brian: When you win something, so that has to be running round Wembley after winning the FA Cup against Liverpool in 1977. There were other great moments, but that one stands out.

Brian Greenhoff
Born: 28.04.53 (58), Barnsley
United career: 1973-1979*
Appearances: 271 Goals: 17

Jimmy Greenhoff
Born: 19.06.46 (65), Barnsley
United career: 1976-1980
Appearances: 123 Goals: 36
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rondwisan

13-10-2011, 11:17 PM

13/10/2011 10:00 - ManUtd.com, Adam Marshall
Fortune: Mersey memories

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Former Reds midfielder Quinton Fortune is hoping for more United success at Liverpool this weekend after enjoying a good record on Merseyside.

The South African scored in a hostile FA Cup win at Everton in 2005 and was only beaten once at Anfield, in his first game in front of The Kop in 2001. Although*Fortune feels the Reds need to keep things tight at the back, he's confident the champions can achieve a positive result this Saturday.

"I only lost one game at Anfield," recalled Fortune to ManUtd.com. "I never ever lost again after that.

"The first one*was the hardest game but, after that, Diego Forlan scored, Giggsy scored. There are some great memories. It's a great place to go as the atmosphere is unbelievable. The rivalry between ourselves and them is what it's all about and why you want to play on that stage. It's where you want to show your ability and character and prove to the world what sort of a player you are."

Fortune hopes the possible return of Nemanja Vidic will help eradicate any insecurities at the back for the trip to Merseyside. "I think we'll win the league but I'm a bit worried about the defensive side," he admitted. "I'm sure everyone wants to sort it out.

"Going forward, we're unbelievably scary. I've been going to most of the games and teams don't know how to cope with us. On the other side, we're letting too many easy goals in. I'm sure when we get a settled back-four again, with Vidic back, we'll be fine as we've been having to chop and change."

Fortune on Merseyside:

04/11/01 - Liverpool L1-3
01/12/02 - Liverpool W2-1
01/05/03 - Everton W2-1
09/11/03 - Liverpool W2-1
07/02/04 - Everton W4-3
15/01/05 - Liverpool W1-0
19/02/05 - Everton W2-0*

* - FA Cup, all the other games were in the Barclays Premier League.

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zudomiriku

14-10-2011, 02:31 PM

Liverpool vs. Manchester United: 5 Reasons They Hate Each Other

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Sunday sees the 157th league meeting between Liverpool and Manchester United. Of the previous 156 United have the upper hand, winning 60 to Liverpool's 53.

The fixture is, put simply, one of the most iconic club matches in world football. Watched as avidly in Malaysia as it is on Merseyside, viewed as fervently in Bangkok as in Burnage.

These two clubs, separated by little more than 30 miles across the North West of England, share between them 37 league titles and eight European Cups. United fans have spent a great deal of time over the last five months reminding their Scouse rivals that their club now holds a narrow majority of that championship count, while Liverpudlians can still respond with their superior haul of Europe's most prestigious trophy.

But the enmity between these two clubs runs so much deeper than simply whose trophy cabinet is the most full. The very history of the two cities, memorable matches between them and tragic disasters which have befallen both clubs are at the heart of one of football's oldest rivalries.

Industrial Rivalries
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Many of English football's rivalries go well beyond mere geography or the events that happen on the pitch.

The bad blood between Tottenham and Arsenal arose from the latter club's relocation from Woolwich in southeast London, to just three miles from Spurs' homeland across the river, in 1913. Southampton and Portsmouth's intense hatred stems from historical rows between those men working in the Merchant Navy and the Royal Navy.

Liverpool and Manchester United's rivalry is no exception.

At the turn of the 19th century Liverpool, then a part of Lancashire, was well-established as a major port and a key international trading post. It was the focal point for commerce in the North West and a vital cog in the function of the British economy as a whole.

Within decades, however, that status was under threat due the unprecedented growth of Manchester, a small town 30 miles or so to the east. The Industrial Revolution saw Manchester thrive and expand as a result of the burgeoning textiles industry at such an alarming rate that it was granted city status in 1853.

The influx of workers to this prosperous new metropolis right on Liverpool's doorstep did not sit well. When the Manchester Ship Canal was completed in 1894, effectively establishing Manchester as a port in its own right, Liverpool's shipping industry suffered irreparable damage and the economy of the city as a whole was substantially affected.

The seeds of this fierce inter-city rivalry were sown.

Tasteless Taunts over Munich and Hillsborough
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Both of these have been touched by truly tragic events, which always add a tinge of poignancy to their many successes on the field.

On Feb. 6 1958, a plane carrying Manchester United players, staff and supporters as well as journalists who reported on the team crashed trying to takeoff from Munich-Riem airport, after a refuelling stop on the way back from a match in Belgrade. The crash claimed the lives of 23 of the 44 people on board, including eight United players.

Some three decades later, two stadium disasters would affect Liverpool Football Club. First was the Heysel Disaster in 1985, when crowd disturbances at the 1985 European Cup final between Liverpool and Juventus resulted in the deaths of 39 Juve fans. UEFA initially placed all the blame on Liverpool fans, resulting in a five year ban from European competition for all English clubs. However, a Belgian court ruled that the host nation's police and football authorities were ultimately responsible.

Four years after Heysel, Liverpool was again involved in a horrendous crush at a football ground. A total of 96 Liverpool fans lost their lives as a result of the Hillsborough Disaster, causing the FA cup semi-final with Nottingham Forest to be abandoned after just six minutes. Despite almost constant campaigning and numerous inquests and inquiries, no one has ever been held legally responsible for the disaster.

Despite the terrible human cost of each of these tragedies, they have not been off-limits for certain sections of both United and Liverpool fans in order to goad and taunt each other.

While the game has made great strides to eradicate widespread hooliganism at matches over the past 30 years—partly as a result of the Taylor Report which followed in the wake Hillsborough—it is far more difficult to act against the sort of tasteless jibes and chants that do little else other than to trivialise the many lives lost and ruined by these incidents and only increase the animosity between two sets of football fans.

Wembley Showdowns
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Plenty has happened on the pitch between these two sides as it is, without fans having to resort to such external factors.

The tone was set for what has often been a thrilling and epic rivalry in their first ever league meetings. In October of 1895 Liverpool thumped United 7-1 at home—still the record winning margin in this fixture today—while the following month United responded with a 5-2 victory on their patch.

Despite their respective trophy-laden histories it was not until 1977 that met in a major final.

Goals from Stuart Pearson and Jimmy Greenhoff secured a 2-1 win for United in the FA Cup final at Wembley. The result was about so much more than just winning the competition for the fourth time and gaining local bragging rights; it also ended league champions Liverpool's hopes of winning the treble.Liverpool won the European Cup final just a few days later, and it was left up to United to reach that particular milestone first.

Liverpool gained a measure of revenge six years later when they beat United 2-1 at Wembley, courtesy of strikes from Alan Kennedy and Ronnie Whelan, to complete a hat-trick of League Cup triumphs. It was the last of Bob Paisley's 13 major trophies won in an exceptional nine seasons in charge, which included three European Cups.

However, the most meeting between these old foes in a final saw United once again come out on top. The 1996 FA Cup final was as awful a spectacle as Liverpool's cream pre-match suits, and it was settled by Eric Cantona's goal five minutes from time which sealed United's second league and cup double in three years.

Eras of Dominance
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As you would expect from the two most dominant clubs in the history of English football, Liverpool and United both have eras that they can conclusively claim as their own.

While Liverpool was crowned champions five times in the first half of the 20th century, it was the 1970s which saw them emerge as the biggest club in both domestic and European terms. Between 1972 and 1990, the Reds won an incredible 11 league titles and four European Cups.

For United it is a similar story. Having won their first title in 1907-08 and 1910-11, a fallow 40-year period was ended when they claimed three championships in six years during the 1950s.That great side featuring many of 'Busby's Babes' had looked set to take Europe by storm in the early years of the European Cup, only for the Munich Air Disaster to decimate that team in the most horrific fashion. A decade later, however, they would finally win the trophy having won two titles in the mid-60s.

Between 1963 and 67, both Liverpool and United won the title twice, though United's continental triumph is perhaps the most oft-recalled club moment of that era.

There is not doubt who emerged as the new force following the end of Liverpool's reign at the turn of the 1990s.

Since Alex Ferguson led United to the top of the tree for the first time in 26 years in 1993, the Red Evils have brought 12 titles, two European Cups, four FA Cups and three League Cups back to Old Trafford. The FA Cup win in 1990 was Fergie's first trophy at United, and the following year the club won the Cup Winners' Cup in the first season English clubs were allowed back into Europe post-Heysel.

As has been proved so often, all dynasties must come to an end some day, and Liverpool will be hoping that their multi-million investment from Fenway Sports Group leaves them best placed to capitalise whenever United's tight grip on English football finally loosens.

The Fight for International Supremacy
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The hegemony that United have shared for so much of the history of the English game is reflected in their huge international appeal.

Despite being located less than an hour's drive from each other—traffic on the M62 permitting—their appeal extends to locations all over the globe.

Liverpool's own official website boasts of chapters of their supporters club in Azerbaijan and Mauritius, while United's equivalent has offices in South Africa and Indonesia.

These two clubs set the standard for international marketing, which is now a prerequisite for any team with designs on maintaining their place at the top of their respective leagues. United went on a summer tour of the USA for their most recent pre-season, while at the same time Liverpool were taking in matches in China, Malaysia and Korea.

United have benefited greatly from their dominance coming just as the formation of the Premier League began pumping unprecedented amounts of money into the game, and Liverpool are one of the only clubs who have been able to compete financially without resorting to a takeover from a billionaire benefactor.

With fans across the globe tuning in to watch the North-West derby live at all times of day or night, the rivalry has truly become a global one. If either Liverpool or United can gain a significant majority share of international support and revenue, then the other club might as well give up.

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Ridwanox

22-10-2011, 03:36 AM

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Redsbusby

25-12-2011, 05:08 PM

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