From Red to Rival: Player Transfer

[dree_united]

mgkin rada oot, but mumpung lagi hangat2nya rumours kepindahan Heinze ke pool, ini ada artikel menarik tentang Phil Chisnal, satu2nya pemain United yg 'nekad' pindah langsung ke liverpool..

Chisnall recalls happier times among rivals
Louise Taylor
Thursday July 26, 2007
The Guardian

When Phil Chisnall talks about playing for both Manchester United and Liverpool his sentences are studded with the words "loyalty", "fun" and "privilege".

In 1964 Chisnall, an inside-right, was the last footballer to be transferred directly between Old Trafford and Anfield after Bill Shankly paid Matt Busby £25,000 for the then 22-year-old. These days he supports both clubs but probably sees more of United, where his grandson is an academy winger hoping for a senior contract.

"He's a left-footer, so that might help," said Chisnall, who is a little dismayed by the actions of a slightly older "leftie", Gabriel Heinze, whose mooted move from United to Liverpool is causing such consternation down the M62 corridor.

"When we played you signed a contract, stayed loyal to your club until it was finished and regarded your wife as your agent," Chisnall said yesterday. "But there's no loyalty in football nowadays; players just leg it if they're unhappy."

Heinze, of course, has two years remaining on his United deal and, much to Sir Alex Ferguson's chagrin, hopes to become the first man to follow in Chisnall's footsteps. While United appear set on denying the Argentina left-back that opportunity, Liverpool have hired lawyers in an attempt to bulldoze through the proposed move.

Chisnall's transfer was facilitated by a deep friendship between Busby and Shankly. "I just feel privileged to have represented two great clubs from two great cities and to have had a lot of fun doing so," reflected a man born and raised in the Davyhulme area of Manchester and now living only a mile from his birthplace.

"When I moved to Liverpool there was nothing like the intensity between them and United that now exists," added Chisnall, who after failing to establish himself at Anfield later played for Southend and Stockport. He then ran betting shops before taking a pre-retirement job as a factory processor in Trafford Park.

"If Heinze turns up at Old Trafford playing for Liverpool next season there will be hell to pay from today's fans but, with me, nobody really said anything about the transfer and I got a good reception when I went back to United with Liverpool."

At least Heinze will not have to travel to and from games on a public bus as Chisnall did. "Fans would come up and say 'why did you do that and you should have done that'. I used to think 'bloody hell, a window cleaner's telling me my job' but you felt privileged to be a footballer and had to keep your mouth shut," he recalled. "There were a lot of nice people on the bus though; supporters and players were much closer then. It was fun."

selanjutnya ini daftar pemain United dan/atau Liverpool yg pindah (baik langsung atau tidak) ke klub rival..

From Red to Red
Guardian

Key players who have represented Manchester United and Liverpool

Phil Chisnall Man Utd 1961-64; Liverpool 1964-67

Paul Ince Man Utd 1989-95; Liverpool 1997-99

John Gidman Liverpool 1970; Man Utd 1981-86

Peter Beardsley Man Utd 1982-83; Liverpool 1987-91

Ted MacDougall Liverpool 1966-67; Man United 1972-73

original: dree_united

[rondwisan]

tambahin ach ....
bukan cuman direct transfer sih ...
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Top 10 players to represent both Manchester United and Manchester City
OffThePost.info, Rob Parker - April 2011

1. Denis Law
Traditionally the definitive answer to any question involving players to play for both Manchester clubs. Law had two spells at City, but it was an 11-year stint at United spanning his heyday for which he is best remembered. His backheeled goal for City against United is one of the defining moments of the United-City rivalry. Believing the goal had relegated his former club, Law did not celebrate. Results elsewhere meant United would have been relegated anyway, but it’s the thought that counts.

2. Carlos Tevez
It is safe to say that Tevez was the first player whose move across the Manchester divide was accompanied by a billboard advertising campaign. Tevez is a rarity in this list in that, during his time at each club, he was held in equally high regard by both sets of supporters. It is safe to say that Citeh fans probably favour him a tad more at present.

3. Peter Schmeichel
Often slips your mind, doesn’t it? That is probably indicative of the fact that the vitriol between the two clubs has been ramped up considerably in recent years. The legendary United keeper played out the final year of his career at Maine Road. City won the Manchester derby at home and drew at Old Trafford that season to maintain Schmeichel’s undefeated record in the clash.

4. Andy Cole
Like Schmeichel, another member of the Treble-winning side who switched allegiances with minimal fuss. His partnership with Dwight Yorke and success at United is well-documented, but he did have a bright but short City career too. He scored nine goals in 22 games for City before injury ended his sole season at the club in March.

5. Brian Kidd
Perhaps the ultimate Manchester club swapper. Roberto Mancini’s assistant manager was once the loyal companion of Sir Alex Ferguson. He also clocked up a considerable number of appearances for both teams, playing just short of 100 games for City and just over 200 for United.

6. Billy Meredith
We’ve avoided delving too much into Victorian and early-20th century players for this list, but Meredith’s involvement is too great to ignore. He played more than 300 games for both Manchester clubs, making him by far the player with most combined appearances for the two clubs. No mean feat in itself, but when you consider the Welshman was banned for 18 months for bribing an opponent during his spell at City it’s even more impressive. [United fans, you can add your own jokes about trying to buy success since 1904!]

7. Sammy McIlroy
The Northern Ireland international had spent his prime at Manchester United with more than a decade at the club from 1971 to 1982. He then had a decent stint at Stoke, but his career was really winding down by the time he arrived at City in 1985. He made just 13 appearances for City.

8. Andrei Kanchelskis
A cornerstone of United’s unstoppable team of the early 1990s before, as was the tradition in those days, falling out with Fergie and being shipped out. He joined City for a loan spell during his time at Rangers, making 10 appearances.

9. Terry Cooke
One of the poor sods unlucky enough to follow David Beckham, Paul Scholes, Nicky Butt, Gary Neville and Ryan Giggs out of the United youth set-up, Cooke was always likely to be on hiding to nothing. In direct competition with Becks for a slot on the right of midfield, he managed just a handful of appearances for the club. Nonetheless, City paid £1 million to sign him in 1999. He briefly held down a first-team place before recommencing the merry-go-round of loan moves that had made up the bulk of his United career. We felt particularly inclined to include him after he featured in our English players abroad list.

10. Sir Matt Busby
Ah, we said represented both clubs! Busby’s playing career constituted what would today be considered a series of crimes against United fans. He played more than 200 games for City before endearing himself to the United faithful by clocking up 100 games for Liverpool. You hardly need us to tell you that his managerial career at United went pretty well.

Honourable mentions for Mark Hughes and Steve Coppell, who both did the reverse by playing for United and managing City.

[tovanokristan]

Bukannya udah ada threadnya ya? *cmiiw
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[rondwisan]

iya, sepertinya begitu, inget2x sih ada, but tadi nyari2x blom ketemu
ntar dimerge deh klo ketemu

[Ridwanox]

sangat bisalah hal itu terjadi di dunia kulit bundar