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dari Manchester evening news nih. nyeritain jg ttg sejarahnya derby Manchester ini. ini jg menjadi derby yg ke 150 buat United dan city..

Now that's a derby!

CAN anyone tell me why this weekend's clash between the Rags - sorry Reds - and the blessed Blues is called a derby?

I've checked the history books and there are enough theories about the origin of that word to fill this newspaper.

The most logical one I came across is that a football derby is linked to the town of Derby itself.

Back in the 1800s the good folk of Derby had a traditional Shrovetime match of football. The whole town took part in this annual free-for-all which must have made it a tad difficult to referee. Tempers, as always, became frayed and hundreds of fatalities were recorded before the bloodbath was abandoned in 1877.

Impossible

Now that sounds exactly like a Manchester derby to me. Family divided. Workmates at each others throats. Best mates becoming best of enemies for 90 minutes. Two sets of fans who would rip each other apart if the killjoys of the Manchester Constabulary would let them.

Why the history lesson? Because for the purposes of this column I was asked to achieve the impossible - browse through my memory bank and come up with the greatest Manchester derby I've ever seen.

Now what do you rate as a classic derby?

If I asked that question of the Blues fans they would tell me it was when City beat United 5-1. The same question to Fergie's army would draw a similar response.

But derby games like that aren't classics in my book. One-sided matches are only spectacles for the fans of the winning side. I wanted to recall a derby which stirred the emotions, and I believe I've trawled one up. The game took place back in November 1971 when you could take your girlfriend to the pictures for sixpence and still have enough left over for fish and chips on the way home.

The derby that Saturday was at Maine Road and drew a capacity attendance of 65,000.

Debuts

It was the first derby for United's manager Frank O'Farrell - or Frank O'Failure as we Blues fans renamed him.

Two players, one from each side, were also making their derby debuts that day. For the Blues it was the battering ram centre-forward Wyn Davies, signed from Newcastle, and for the Reds it was a slip of a lad named Sammy McIlroy, of whom no-one outside of Old Trafford had heard.

It didn't take long for young Sammy to make his mark. Early in the game he had the audacity to whip the ball off the toes of his legendary team-mate George Best to whip a shot past City's goalkeeper Joe Corrigan.

Just before half-time United hammered another nail into City's coffin when Brian Kidd rose to a Willie Morgan cross to thunder a header past the helpless Corrigan.

The points were heading back to Old Trafford - or so the dancing United supporters believed. But they hadn't reckoned on City's gruesome twosome, Colin `Nijinsky' Bell and Francis `Barney Rubble' Lee.

The two England internationals were on a different planet in the second half when they waged a two-man war against the United defence.

It wasn't long before Lee tripped himself up in the United penalty box to earn a spot-kick with the cleverest con trick ever seen in English soccer. Needless to say, Francis picked himself up, dusted himself down and bulleted the penalty past Alex Stepney.

Moments later Lee the scorer turned Lee the provider with a glorious through-ball to Bell. No one in the country could catch the great midfielder when he pressed the turbo button and United's defence could only stand and stare as one of City's finest ever players rounded Stepney before coolly slotting the ball into the empty net.

The Blues at this stage were on fire and every single person in the ground thought that derby debutant Davies had given City the lead with a trademark towering header. Everyone that is but for the referee who blew for offside.

Deflected

City's sense of grievance was magnified when United substitute Johnny Aston - on for the injured Tony Dunne - put the Reds back in front with a mishit shot which deflected into goal off striker Alan Gowling.

Was that the end of the drama? Not by a long shot. With the referee looking at his watch keeper Stepney punched a corner out to the feet of Mike Summerbee who responded with a screaming volley which would have sailed over Platt Fields if the net hadn't intervened. That is what I call a great, great derby. It ended 3-3 but it could have been 6-6. Right to the dying seconds the result was in doubt.

If the coming derby is only half as good as that one, Manchester is in for an almighty treat.

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29/11/2008 01:06 - ManUtd.com, Nick Coppack
Status quo suits Rio

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Rio Ferdinand has refuted suggestions that a resurgent Manchester City would be good for the North-West.

It's been 32 years since the Blues last lifted a major trophy (City beat Newcastle United 2-1 in the 1976 League Cup final) but new owners and big-money signings have injected a wave of optimism into the blue half of Manchester.

Of course, City and United have enjoyed simultaneous success in the past, most notably in 1968 when the Blues won the league and the Reds the European Cup. But it's not a scenario Ferdinand is keen to see repeated.

When asked at a recent Nike Inner Circle event if Manchester would benefit from a second successful side, the England defender’s response was swift and succinct.

“No,� he said. “I want United to win everything. I don’t care about what happens at City.

“Okay, if they start improving and doing well then good luck to them, but as long as they’re not above us in the league I’m happy.�

Ferdinand has played in 11 Manchester derbies since arriving at Old Trafford and can’t wait for kick-off on Sunday.

“The derby’s always a massive game and the fans are right up for it, just like the players. Supporters come up to you in the days leading up to the match and wish you good luck.

“It’s a great fixture and obviously expectations at City are a lot higher these days, so I’m sure it will make for a good game.�

The Blues won both encounters last season – 1-0 at Eastlands, 2-1 at Old Trafford – but Rio’s confident United can turn those results around this term, especially with the help of the Reds’ vocal travelling fans.

“Our away fans are unbelievable,� he said. “It’s easily the best travelling support in England. I was in the stands at Anfield and it was the maddest experience I’ve ever had. It was brilliant and long may our fanatical away support continue.�


Glory, glory Man United

City's last major honour: 1976

United's success since 1976:

Football League (x10)
FA Cup (x8)
League Cup (x2)
Community Shield (x10*)
European Cup (x2)
Cup Winners' Cup (x1)
Super Cup (x1)
Intercontinental Club Cup (x1)

[I]* Includes two instances where the trophy was shared.


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Peter Barnes scores City's first in their 1976 League Cup win. The Blues haven't won major silverware since

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1992/93 was the first of 10 league titles United have won since City's last major trophy

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United: FA Cup winners eight times since City's last trophy. 1977, 1983, 1985 (pictured), 1990, 1994, 1996, 1999, 2004

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United: League Cup winners twice since City's last major trophy. 1992 (pictured), 2006

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United: European Cup winners twice since City's last major trophy. 1998/99 and 2007/08 (pictured)

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United: Cup Winners Cup winners once since City's last major trophy. 1991 (pictured)

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United: UEFA Super Cup winners once since City's last major trophy. 1991 (Utd 1-0 Red Star Belgrade)

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United: Intercontinental Club Cup winners once since City's last major trophy. 1999 (Utd 1-0 Palmeiras)

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United: Charity Shield winners/joint winners 10 times since City's last major trophy. (Pictured: Steve Bruce in 1994)

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Ryan's derby day thrill
MEN, JAMES ROBSON - 29/11/2008

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Giggs scored his first goal in the derby 17 years ago

RYAN Giggs admits he still feels the same way about derby day as he did as a kid growing up in Manchester.

Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea may offer a more obvious and formidable title threat to the Reds, but bragging rights over City have always held a special place in his heart.

As a veteran of 27 such matches, scoring his first senior goal against the Blues as a 17-year-old back in 1991 - even though he accepts he never touched the ball in a mix-up with Colin Hendry - Giggs has made a greater contribution to encounters with City than anyone else.

However, he is aware the damage he might do tomorrow will be from central midfield.

"I have not been an out-and-out winger for the last three or four years," he said.

"I enjoy playing in midfield. You are more involved and you get to see a lot more of the ball.

"It is certainly not alien to me and maybe the ability to move around is one of the things that has kept me playing for so long."

With Ferguson suggesting a new one-year contract at the season's end, the serial medal-collector has time to increase his already unmatched haul.

One thing is for certain, if Giggs does find himself on the losing side once more, he won't be venturing too far for a few days.

"You are still aware the fans want bragging rights on Monday but you also want to win as players because, as we experienced last year, it takes a bit of time to get over losing a derby.

"If you don't get the right result you tend to stay in your house, just so the supporters don't have a chance to give you some stick."

Boss Sir Alex Ferguson, meanwhile, fears United's hopes of retaining their Premier League and European crowns could be scuppered by an impending fixture backlog.

The United manager believes his side could be faced with a similar situation as in 1992 when losing the title to Leeds. Back then they had to cram four games into six days, winning only one of those matches and surrendering the title to Howard Wilkinson's side.

Last year, Ferguson saw how his good friend, Walter Smith, struggled with a fixture pile-up at Rangers.

At one point Smith was bidding for the Scottish title, FA Cup and UEFA Cup. But after squeezing in nine games from May 1 to 24, their hopes of a treble were dashed.

They ended up with just the Scottish Cup to show for a season that had promised so much - and Ferguson is wary of the same happening to United.

There is the potential of this season's fixture congestion being worse than '92 with United having much more on their plate. As well as the Champions League, they have reached the quarter-final of the Carling Cup and are off to Japan next month for the World Club Championships.

They already have a game in hand on their rivals due to the European Super Cup at the start of the season. And they will be two games behind by time they get back from Japan.

Such has been United's schedule so far this season that they haven't been able to find a suitable date to play their game in hand against Fulham, and it could prove even more difficult in the New Year when the FA Cup kicks in.

"We're playing catch-up at the moment," said Fergie. "We will have to make up two games and it will depend on our progress in the League Cup and the FA Cup.

"That could prove a minefield for us in terms of dates. But it depends how we go on against Blackburn in the League Cup because we've then got two semi-final dates and that's two midweek games.

"The availability of fixtures dries up and you're looking at the end of February or March. If you don't get them then you are talking about a Rangers situation from last year when they had eight games in 12 days or like when we lost the league in '92, four games in six days."

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DERBY WINNERS

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Wazza's goal at Eastlands in November was United's 200th in league clashes with Manchester City. Here's a reminder of that strike, plus a few other derby winners scored by current Reds...

Wayne Rooney at Eastlands; 30.11.08; City 0 United 1
Not long ago, there was a theory circulating Eastlands that, on account of his friendship with Ricky Hatton, Rooney was a closet City sympathiser. This match dispelled that notion. Not only did Wazza score the winner, tapping in from six yards after Michael Carrick’s shot was parried, he took conspicuous delight in rubbing Blue noses in it. He celebrated with a chest-beating, wild-eyed tribal warrior-style rampage, just yards from United-baiters in the Eastlands cheap seats.

Cristiano Ronaldo at Eastlands; 05.05.07; City 0 United 1
The Blues approached this match with one thing on their minds: stopping Cristiano Ronaldo. It was a game plan that included kicking lumps out of him, using his chest as a stud sharpener, and generally getting in his face. Michael Ball, whose early stamp on the Portuguese genius was somehow unseen by the officials, was the Blues’ chief henchman. However, on 34 minutes the Blues defender’s clumsy tackle resulted in Ronaldo being awarded a penalty. Outcome? Ball in the net, and our ninth Premier League title was almost in the bag.

Paul Scholes at Old Trafford; 13.12.03; United 3 City 1
It’s unlikely movie mogul George Lucas had Paul Scholes in mind when he was dreaming up titles for the fourth Star Wars movie, but The Phantom Menace is a moniker that suits him well. The midfielder’s ability to ‘ghost’ into space is legendary, and in this derby he was at his ghoulish best, twice drifting unmarked into the box to glance headers past David Seaman. Between those goals, the visitors had also been beaten by a Ruud van Nistelrooy header. In the aftermath of both Scholes strikes, half a dozen City players wore an expression that silently asked the same question: “Where did he come from?� No Blue seemed to know.

Ryan Giggs at Maine Road; 06.04.96; City 2 United 3
The Reds headed into this game seeking a 10th Premier League victory on the bounce, against a City team 36 points behind in the table. But what seemed like a routine assignment gradually degenerated into a bum-squeaking fiasco. Leading 2-1 at half-time, United surrendered the initiative in the second period, allowing the Blues to equalise through Uwe Rosler with 20 minutes to go. In truth, it was the home team who looked more likely to grab a winner… until Giggs, cutting in from the left towards the corner of the penalty area, let fly with an angled drive that exploded into the roof of the net at Ike Immel’s near post on 76 minutes. Suddenly, Reds were everywhere, and jack-in-the-box-style celebrations broke out all over Maine Road.

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The Manchester derby: Four classics from 128 years of rivalry between City and United
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Regret: Denis Law back-heeled Manchester City to victory in 1974


MAN UTD 0 MAN CITY 1 April 27, 1974

Perhaps the most famous encounter ended with United relegated. A back-heeled finish in the 80th minute by one-time Old Trafford hero Denis Law doubled the pain.

'I have finally scored a goal which I almost wish I hadn't,' said Law, who was substituted and never played in the league again.

MAN CITY 5 MAN UTD 1 September 23, 1989

United's heaviest derby defeat since 1955, against a City side knocked out of the League Cup days earlier by Brentford and with only one win in their first six league games. Goals by David Oldfield (two), Trevor Morley, Ian Bishop and Andy Hinchcliffe. Mark Hughes hit a stunning consolation.

MAN CITY 2 MAN UTD 3 November 7, 1993

With United at a low ebb following midweek elimination from the European Cup, City went for the jugular and Niall Quinn headed two early goals.

United completed a memorable comeback thanks to two strikes from the inspired Eric Cantona and an 87th-minute winner from Roy Keane.

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The king: Eric Cantona inspired Manchester United to a win in 1993

MAN UTD 5 MAN CITY 0 November 10, 1994

In a season when United narrowly missed out on winning both the League and FA Cup, Andrei Kanchelskis produced a glittering display against the old enemy.

The Russia winger scored a hat-trick, with Hughes and Cantona adding the others. United hammered City 3-0 in the return league game.

LEAGUE: City W 37, United W 55, Draws 48; FA CUP: 2, 4, 0; LEAGUE CUP: 2, 1, 1; CHARITY SHIELD: 0, 1, 0; TOTAL: City 41, United 61, Draws 49.

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klo diexpand jadi top 10 nih ...
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Top 10: Manchester derbies

The history of the Manchester derby can be traced back as far as 1881 when, in a friendly on Nov 12, West Gorton (St. Marks) – the forerunners of City – played at home to Newton Heath, later United. The "Heathens" won 3-0 and the affair was described, in the local press, as "a pleasant game".

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Mobbed: fans congratulate Denis Law after his back-heel sent United down to Division Two in 1974


The first Football League meeting was in the 1894-95 season with Newton Heath beating Manchester City 5–2 at Hyde Road.

They first met in the top division in Dec 1906, a 3–0 City win in a First Division match for which the gate receipts exceeded £1,000, a huge amount at the time.

1. Manchester United 4 Manchester City 1, Division One, Aug 31, 1957

The last Manchester derby before the Munich Air Disaster. Roger Byrne, Eddie Colman, David Pegg, Liam Whelan, Duncan Edwards and Tommy Taylor all featured, just five months before their untimely and tragic deaths in Germany. Goals from Edwards, Taylor, Johnny Berry and Dennis Viollet maintained United's perfect start to the season.

2. Manchester City 3 Manchester United 3, Division One, Nov 6, 1971

The highlights of this encounter included a 17-year-old Sammy McIlroy scoring on his United debut, a wonderful equaliser from Colin Bell, some brilliant goalkeeping from Alex Stepney and Francis Lee playing up to the crowd by accusing George Best of diving. City recovered first from 2-0 and 3-2 down.

3. Manchester United 0 Manchester City 1, Division One, April 27, 1974

The day United were relegated, but the fact is that former favourite Denis Law's back-heeled goal against his old side did not send United into Division Two. Birmingham's victory that day meant that United would still have gone down, but Law's refusal to celebrate remains an abiding memory for older fans.

4. Manchester City 5 Manchester 1, Division One, Sept 23, 1989

United started well until the players were taken off the Maine Road pitch because of crowd trouble. When they returned after a 10-minute break, newly-promoted City took control, their march halted only by a remarkable Mark Hughes bicycle kick. Alex Ferguson later described it as his "most embarrassing defeat".

5. Manchester City 2 Manchester United 3, Premiership, Nov 7, 1993

United were able to restore their 11-point advantage at the top of the Premiership after going two goals down, both scored by Niall Quinn. Eric Cantona scored twice and, with three minutes left Roy Keane claimed the winner.

6. Manchester United 5 Manchester City 0, Premiership, Nov 10, 1994

United's best ever derby win in the Premiership came eight days after a 4-0 defeat by Barcelona - a result that prompted a massive sale of Barca shirts to the blue side on Manchester. Andrei Kanchelskis won the United fans over with a hat-trick.

7. Manchester United 1 Manchester City 1, Premier League, April 21, 2001

The culmination of a long-standing feud between Roy Keane and Alf-Inge Haaland emerged at Old Trafford. The feud started in 1998, when United captain Keane suffered a cruciate ligament injury when clean through on goal, being chased down by Haaland (then playing for Leeds). Three years later Keane made a knee-high tackle on Haaland, was red-carded and later admitted in his autobiography that it was a premeditated attempt to injure. He later received a £150,000 fine and a five-match ban.

8. Manchester City 3 Manchester United 1, Premier League, Nov 9, 2002

Thirteen years had passed since City had beaten United, but Shaun Goater proved to be the hero of Kevin Keegan's first – and City's last – derby at Maine Road. Nicolas Anelka put City ahead after five minutes after a comedy fumble from the increasingly erratic Fabien Barthez, only for Ole Gunnar Solskjaer to level three minutes later. But two goals from Goater gave City a rare derby success.

9. Manchester City 3 Manchester United 1, Premier League, Jan 14, 2006

How they enjoyed this one in the blue half of the City. Not only a City win, but the sight of Cristiano Ronaldo shown a red card. Frustrated that his side were deservedly losing to goals from Trevor Sinclair and Darius Vassell, Ronaldo high-kicked into Andy Cole's midrift and was dismissed by Steve Bennett, who had conveniently missed Stephen Jordan's hefty assault on the Portuguese moments earlier.

10. Manchester City 0 Manchester United 1, Premier League, May 5 2007

Edwin van der Sar saved a late penalty as United effectively won the Premier League title at the home of their foes. The match was by no means a classic, but it was fitting that Cristiano Ronaldo's penalty should win the game after he had been stamped on by Michael Ball in the first half.

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Sell All Their Tickets, City Couldn’t Sell All Their Tickets…

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Manchester City are due to play in their first semi-final for 28 years this month, under the guidance of new manager Roberto Mancini.

The population of Manchester is 460,000. City fans say all “proper Mancs” are blue. So why couldn’t they sell all their tickets for the biggest game they’ve played in for almost three decades?

The official City website has put more tickets on sale yesterday, offering “Seasoncard” and “Citycard” (membership) holders the opportunity to purchase an additional two tickets each.

Tickets went on sale to season ticket holders during the first week of December, then to Citycard holders on December 22nd. Then on December 31st, almost four weeks after the tickets became available, there were tickets left, despite the game being less than a week away.

The council owned stadium seats 47,000, with a chunk of those seats filled by reds. If City are such a massive club, with great fans, then why are there still tickets available a month after they went on sale? I don’t understand, it just doesn’t match up with the claim City fans make which is perpetuated by the media.

I know that United have a lot of fans outside of Manchester, but I don’t understand why that makes people think there aren’t a lot of United fans inside Manchester. As if all Mancunians shunned United to support City and this tradition has continued for decades, despite the fact we’ve had higher attendances than them for decades (long before Munich). It doesn’t make sense. Liverpool FC has a lot of fans outside Liverpool, yet Evertonians aren’t deluded enough to spread a lie that everyone from Merseyside is blue, so why do our bitter neighbours do it? I just don’t get it. If they live in Manchester, they will know loads of reds, whether they drink with them, work with them or for them, are married to them, or are related to them. So why the lies? And why can’t they sell their tickets for their biggest game in 28 years?

Tickets are still available for the Old Trafford leg which will take place in three weeks time. Given that 74,000 attended our League Cup semi-final against Derby last season, I can’t imagine we’ll still be trying to flog tickets two days before kick-off like City were.

I have asked a City blogger and he will explain all later. Watch this space…


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masih rivalitas United vs City

STATS: United vs City – The Best Supported Club Since The 1940’s and Before Premiership?

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Keterangan lebih lanjut.......

Yesterday, Manchester City still hadn’t sold all their tickets for the League Cup semi-final which was due to be played the following day. On the Monday, it was announced that any season ticket holder or membership holder could purchase an additional two tickets.

Given that City haven’t played in the semi-final for 28 years I thought it was odd that the game wasn’t a sell out. Now that the game has been postponed due to the snow, it of course almost certainly will be a sell out.

Me commenting on this brought flocks of City fans to the blog, all trying to justify the reasons behind it. The excuses ranged from the more understandable, citing the proximity to Christmas, to the insane, claiming that we just weren’t a big draw for them anymore.

The discussion went along it’s usual path that it does with City fans, with them talking about our debt, claiming that we don’t have fans in Manchester, and along the way, me having to ban posters and delete comments mocking us for Munich. Same ol’, same ol’.

United have yet to sell all their tickets for the return leg of the semi-final, although have sold 10,000+ more than City had the day before the supposed kick-off, despite us having a further two weeks until our game (now a further three weeks). This got me thinking about the relative support of our two clubs, with City fans always banging on about being so great and claiming that all our fans are day-trippers.

So, let’s take a walk down memory lane and get to the truth behind the deluded City lies…

I came across a brilliant website which gives the average attendances for English football since the 1947-1948 season.

Is it true that City have the best support in Manchester? Is it true that our fanbase is full of glory supporters who only starting coming once we’d won trophies? What is clear is that Manchester has two very well supported teams, particularly compared to the rest of the country, and that support isn’t necessarily totally dependent on the success of the club.

The data is shown at the bottom of the page for those of you that are really keen, showing their position in the league, the average attendance for that season, what ranking that places them amongst the top flight and which team had the highest average attendance that season.

Otherwise, here is a summary…

Interesting facts
- United have had a higher average attendance than City EVERY SINGLE SEASON since 1947.
- When City won the league in the 1968, they had the 6th highest attendance in the country. United had the highest average attendance of 57,552, more than 10,000 higher than any club that season.
- When United were playing in Division 2 during the 1974-1975 season, they still had the highest average attendance of any club in the country, including Division 1.
- City have had a higher average attendance ranking than they have average league position every decade.
- Between 1946 and 1949 United played at Maine Road whilst reconstruction work was being done on Old Trafford after the bombings in the war. In the first season, when City won the league, United had an average attendance of 4,662 more than City at their own stadium. In the second season, United had an average attendance of 12,165 more than City at their own stadium. In the third season, United had an average attendance of 10,109 more than City at their own stadium.
- United have a higher average attendance than City for every decade since the 1940’s.
- Between 1947 and the year before the Munich Air Disaster, there was an average of almost 7,000 more United fans attending games than City.
- City were a more successful club on the pitch than United in the 1970s, yet there was a difference of over 13,000 in our average attendances, with United the best supported club of the decade.

In the 1950s…
City’s average league position: 15th
City’s average attendance position: 10th (1 year in Div 2 – position not included)
City’s average attendance: 30,028

United’s average league position: 3rd
United’s average attendance position: 4th
United’s average attendance: 35,667

In the 1960s…
City’s average league position: 18th
City’s average attendance position: 13th (3 years in Div 2 – positions not included)
City’s average attendance: 27,823

United’s average league position: 7th
United’s average attendance position: 2nd
United’s average attendance: 45,199

In the 1970s…
City’s average league position: 9th
City’s average attendance position: 6th
City’s average attendance: 35,178

United’s average league position: 11th
United’s average attendance position: 1st (1 year in Div 2 – position not included)
United’s average attendance: 48,328

In the 1980s…
City’s average league position: 20th
City’s average attendance position: 5th (4 years in Div 2 – positions not included)
City’s average attendance: 26,866

United’s average league position: 5th
United’s average attendance position: 1st
United’s average attendance: 43,090

In the 1990s pre Premiership/Sky…
City’s average league position: 8th
City’s average attendance position: 6th
City’s average attendance: 27,846

United’s average league position: 7th
United’s average attendance position: 1st
United’s average attendance: 42,654

1946-1957
After the Munich Air Disaster, people from outside of Manchester started to follow the club after sharing in our loss (even City fans used to be compassionate back then!). City fans have claimed that the sympathy that followed Munich is one of the reasons we have a larger fan base.

Looking at data from ‘46 to the season before Munich, we can see what support was like in Manchester.

City’s average league position: 15th
City’s average attendance position: 12th (3 years in Div 2 – positions not included)
City’s average attendance: 35,913

United’s average league position: 3rd
United’s average attendance position: 5th
United’s average attendance: 42,632

Average attendances: United vs City 1946-1992

1946-1947: Liverpool 45,732 (1st)
City – 1st (Div 2)
Average attendance: 39,283

United – 2nd
Average attendance: 43,945 (3rd)

1947-1948: Arsenal 54,892 (1st)
City – 10th
Average attendance: 42,725 (7th)

United – 2nd, FA Cup winners
Average attendance: 54,890 (2nd)

1948-1949: Newcastle 53,839 (1st)
City – 7th
Average attendance: 38,699 (11th)

United – 2nd
Average attendance: 48,808 (3rd)

1949-1950: Arsenal 49,001 (1st)
City – 21st
Average attendance: 39,381 (10th)

United – 4th
Average attendance: 43,282 (7th)

1950-1951: Spurs 55,509 (1st)
City – 2nd (Div 2)
Average attendance: 35,016

United – 2nd
Average attendance: 39,008 (9th)

1951-1952: Spurs 51,134 (1st)
City – 15th
Average attendance: 38,302 (8th)

United – 1st
Average attendance: 42,916 (4th)

1952-1953: Arsenal 49,141 (1st)
City – 20th
Average attendance: 34,058 (11th)

United – 8th
Average attendance: 37,571 (9th)

1953-1954: Chelsea 46,944 (1st)
City – 17th
Average attendance: 30,155 (15th)

United – 4th
Average attendance: 36,887 (8th)

1954-1955: Chelsea 48,260 (1st)
City – 7th
Average attendance: 35,217 (9th)

United – 5th
Average attendance: 36,911 (7th)

1955-1956: Everton 42,768 (1st)
City – 4th, FA Cup winners
Average attendance: 32,198 (10th)

United – 1st
Average attendance: 39,254 (3rd)

1956-1957: United
City – 18th
Average attendance: 30,005 (12th)

United – 1st
Average attendance: 45,481 (1st)

1957-1958: United
City – 5th
Average attendance: 32,756 (9th)

United – 9th
Average attendance: 46,073 (1st)

1958-1959: United
City – 20th
Average attendance: 32,568 (9th)

United – 2nd
Average attendance: 53,258 (1st)

1959-1960: Spurs 47,948 (1st)
City – 16th
Average attendance: 35,637 (8th)

United – 7th
Average attendance: 47,288 (2nd)

1960-1961: Spurs 53,124 (1st)
City – 13th
Average attendance: 29,409 (8th)

United – 7th
Average attendance: 38,888 (3rd)

1961-1962: Spurs 45,576 (1st)
City – 12th
Average attendance: 25,626 (10th)

United – 15th
Average attendance: 33,491 (4th)

1962-1963: Everton 51,603 (1st)
City – 21st
Average attendance: 24,683 (11th)

United – 19th, FA Cup
Average attendance: 40,329 (4th)

1963-1964: Everton 49,401 (1st)
City – 6th (Div 2)
Average attendance: 18,201

United – 2nd
Average attendance: 44,125 (3rd)

1964-1965: United
City – 11th (Div 2)
Average attendance: 14,753

United – 1st
Average attendance: 46,521 (1st)

1965-1966: Liverpool 46,344 (1st)
City – 1st (Div 2)
Average attendance: 27,739

United – 4th
Average attendance: 38,769 (2nd)

1966-1967: United
City – 15th
Average attendance: 31,208 (11th)

United – 1st
Average attendance: 53,854 (1st)

1967-1968: United
City – 1st
Average attendance: 37,223 (6th)

United – 2nd
Average attendance: 57,552 (1st)

1968-1969
City – 13th, FA Cup
Average attendance: 33,750 (9th)

United – 11th
Average attendance: 51,169 (1st)

1969-1970: United
City – 10th, League Cup
Average attendance: 33,930 (10th)

United – 8th
Average attendance: 49,862 (1st)

1970-1971: Liverpool 45,459 (1st)
City – 11th
Average attendance: 31,041 (9th)

United – 8th
Average attendance: 43,945 (2nd)

1971-1972: Liverpool 47,687 (1st)
City – 4th
Average attendance: 38,573 (6th)

United – 8th
Average attendance: 45,999 (2nd)

1972-1973: United
City – 11th
Average attendance: 32,351 (7th)

United – 18th
Average attendance: 48,623 (1st)

1973-1974: United
City – 14th
Average attendance: 30,756 (7th)

United – 21
Average attendance: 42,712 (1st)

1974-1975: United. (Liverpool top of Div 1 45,966)
City – 8th
Average attendance: 32,898 (5th)

United – 1st (Div 2)
Average attendance: 48,389 (1st)

1975-1976: United
City – 8th, League Cup
Average attendance: 34,280 (4th)

United – 3rd
Average attendance: 54,750 (1st)

1976-1977: United
City – 2nd
Average attendance: 40,058 (3rd)

United – 6th, FA Cup
Average attendance: 53,710 (1st)

1977-1978: United
City – 4th
Average attendance: 41,687 (3rd)

United – 10th
Average attendance: 51,860 (1st)

1978-1979: United
City – 15th
Average attendance: 36,203 (4th)

United – 9th
Average attendance: 46,430 (1st)

1979-1980: United
City – 17th
Average attendance: 35,272 (3rd)

United – 2nd
Average attendance: 51,608 (1st)

1980-1981: United
City – 12th
Average attendance: 33,587 (4th)

United – 8th
Average attendance: 45,071 (1st)

1981-1982: United
City – 10th
Average attendance: 34,063 (4th)

United – 3rd
Average attendance: 44,571 (1st)

1982-1983: United
City – 20th
Average attendance: 26,789 (4th)

United – 3rd, FA Cup
Average attendance: 41,695 (1st)

1983-1984: United
City – 4th (Div 2)
Average attendance: 25,604

United – 4th
Average attendance: 42,534 (1st)

1984-1985: United
City – 3rd (Div 2)
Average attendance: 24,220

United – 4th, FA Cup
Average attendance: 42,881 (1st)

1985-1986: United
City – 15th
Average attendance: 24,229 (4th)

United – 4th
Average attendance: 46,321 (1st)

1986-1987: United
City – 21st
Average attendance: 21,922 (8th)

United – 11th
Average attendance: 40,594 (1st)

1987-1988: Liverpool 39,582 (1st)
City – 9th (Div 2)
Average attendance: 19,472

United – 2nd
Average attendance: 39,152 (2nd)

1988-1989: Liverpool 38,706 (1st)
City – 2nd (Div 2)
Average attendance: 23,500

United – 11th
Average attendance: 36,474 (2nd)

1989-1990: United
City – 14th
Average attendance: 27,975 (4th)

United – 13th
Average attendance: 39,331 (1st)

1990-1991: United
City – 5th
Average attendance: 27,874 (6th)

United – 6th
Average attendance: 43,242 (1st)

1991-1992: United
City – 5th
Average attendance: 27,688 (7th)

United – 2nd
Average attendance: 45,389 (1st)

[B4YU]

Roberto Mancini hopes to make peace with Sir Alex Ferguson over pizza

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Roberto Mancini has said he will offer Sir Alex Ferguson a special consolation prize should Manchester United fail to make the Carling Cup final. "Does Alex like pizza?" inquired Manchester City's new Italian manager as he prepared for the semi-final first leg against United at Eastlands. "If we win then, OK, I'll bring the pizza if he brings the wine – a really nice bottle."

This promise was made in extremely jocular vein but it remained unclear whether Mancini – who just last week extolled the virtues of pizza accompanied by a glass of wine as a pre-match meal for players – knows that United's manager has a certain history with dough-based Italian creations.

When someone mentioned "Pizza-Gate" – the notorious 2004 "battle of the buffet" when a tunnel scuffle between United and Arsenal's players and staff saw a slice of pizza hurled at Ferguson, hitting him on the mouth – Mancini merely smiled.

Such disarmingly beatific beams punctuated the former Internazionale coach's media briefing and even greeted the inevitable questions about Robinho. "I have respect for Robinho," he insisted. "He is a good man and a good player. I would like Robinho to always play well but it's not always possible."

If that was a diplomatic understatement the Brazilian could well be involved at some stage against United as Roque Santa Cruz will be sidelined for at least a month with recurring calf trouble. Slightly less worryingly Carlos Tevez – who should start and who Mancini, incidentally, once tried to buy for Inter – is nursing a slight hamstring strain.

"I think Santa Cruz is out for one month maybe," said Mancini, who hopes to have a newly-fit Stephen Ireland on the bench. "It's the calf, the second time in 20 days and it's a big problem for me."

Indeed the fitness doubts surrounding Santa Cruz and his co-strikers almost certaily dictate that Mancini will not be selling Robinho during this transfer window. Even if he wanted to offload him – or, perhaps more pertinently someone was willing to buy the out-of-sorts £32.5m forward – Mark Hughes's successor cannot afford to weaken his attacking department any further.

The recent arrival of Patrick Vieira has bolstered the midfield but the former Arsenal and Internazionale enforcer is not ready to face his old foes from United. "It's better that we don't risk Patrick," said Mancini. "Because when Patrick comes back in a week or 10 days I want him to play 20 games."

Despite the gloomy treatment-room bulletin, not to mention Mancini's first City defeat at Everton last Saturday, the Italian is not about to abandon his already-famous blue-and-white matchday accessory. "It continues," he said. "It is still a lucky scarf."

Forget City's defensive shortcomings and midfield vulnerabilities, maybe Hughes's failure to accessorise a series of expensive suits in similarly snazzily self-confident manner was what really prompted his undoing.

But would the scarf's magical powers be best deployed in cup or league arenas? "We want to win the Carling Cup, we want to win the FA Cup," said Mancini. "But we must arrive in the top four. That will change the situation for me and we work for this. I would like to win the Carling Cup because it's important for me but it has to be just the start. When you win a trophy then you change the club mentality."

It is certainly quite a departure from September and City's stoppage time 4-3 defeat at Old Trafford when Mancini watched Hughes's despair on televison in Italy. "I was in Bologna, in my house," said a man mentored by Sven-Goran Eriksson whose still rather rudimentary English merely succeeds in creating a certain mystique which seems to have survived the Everton defeat.

"I didn't think I would be the [City] manager in six months," he continued. "But I hoped that after one year or two years it would be possible because I would be happy to come to England and to City because City has a good future."

Might it see them eclipsing United. "If we work well then that is possible," said Mancini. "Why not?"

Much more of this and Sir Alex will be choking on that pizza.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/jan/18/roberto-mancini-city-united-pizza

[timzhoot]

nanti malam ada siaran tv yang nyiarin gak ya?? derby klasik yang terulang di semifinal carling kali ini pasti bakalan menyajikan pertandingan sengit. pingin nonton!

:devil3:

[B4YU]

City v United derby fall-out: The ugly truth behind the ferocious battle of... Madchester

Manchester United fans seemingly intent on violence had golf balls, darts and other weapons taken from them as the dark spectre of football hooliganism returned to their Carling Cup meeting with neighbours City.

Many United fans complained of crushes and slow queues as they tried to enter the away section at Eastlands for the first leg of their semi-final tie at the home of their rivals. But Sportsmail understands that the delay was down to the rigorous searching of supporters known to be arriving at the turnstiles with concealed weapons.

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Red hot atmosphere: United fans let off a flare during the Carling Cup semi final

Police reports and first-hand accounts revealed last night that both United and City fans threw coins, plastic bottles and even mobile phones at each other as the game began at City' s stadium. Some innocent fans, including women and youngsters, complained of cuts.

Seats in the away end were also ripped out and thrown into neighbouring sections while out on the concourse, toilet cubicles were trashed and urinals ripped from the walls.

But it is the revelation that some United fans were carrying darts and golf balls that will alarm the authorities as they look to uphold the image of the English game ahead of a bid for the 2018 World Cup and - on a local scale - ahead of next week's eagerly awaited second leg at Old Trafford.

With a flare being let off inside the away end before kick-off and fireworks being detonated outside - presumably by fans who couldn't get in - Tuesday's game had a raw feel to it. Many onlookers commented that it constituted the most electrifying Manchester derby atmosphere for some years.

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Tension in the air: Police and stewards stand between rival fans

However, it appears that the evening carried a sinister edge, too, as a minority of the 9,000 away fans and 37,000 home supporters seemed intent on trouble.

Accounts from the Greater Manchester Police and from eyewitnesses revealed yesterday that there were skirmishes outside the stadium before and after the game, with rocks thrown across roads and bricks hurled through car windows. United fans also tried to break through police cordons guiding them to and from Eastlands to confront City followers, and there was one report of a man in his sixties being attacked without provocation near the stadium before kick-off.

Last night police said that 18 arrests had been made on what they were describing as a 'challenging and potentially dangerous' night. Of those arrests, six were City fans, 11 were United supporters and one was thought to be a neutral.

Next week's return game will now come under renewed focus from the police and from both clubs. With 9,000 City fans due at Old Trafford it is clear that many will arrive carrying a sense of gr ievance, either real or imaginary.

It is likely that the police will seek to remind players from both teams of their obligations once the game has started after Gary Neville, Carlos Tevez, Patrice Evra and Edwin van der Sar came under the spotlight on Tuesday.

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Neville is being investigated by the FA after appearing to make an offensive gesture to Tevez when his former team-mate scored his first goal of the night with a first-half penalty.

Given that the Manchester United captain is already on a warning after goading Manchester City supporters at the end of the club's Barclays Premier League game last September, he can expect an FA fine and - in all likelihood - a suspension for his latest misdemeanour.

Tevez, meanwhile, made a provocative - albeit clean - gesture to the United directors after scoring his second by cupping his hands behind his ears.

United's French defender Evra, meanwhile, was struck by a cigarette lighter thrown from the crowd, something that some City fans believe was in response to a crude signal from the left back.

Goalkeeper Van der Sar was also accused by fans yesterday, this time of making a 'V-sign' behind his back as he prepared to take a goal kick. There is no video or still camera footage to corroborate these claims.

What is clear, now, is that the security operation ahead of next week's game will be huge. There was some criticism yesterday that United fans were released from the stadium at the same time as City supporters on Tuesday. It is understood that next week the two sets of fans will not be allowed to mingle.

Last night City stadium officials were relatively sanguine about what had happened during the game.

'It was lively but not the worst we have had here,' revealed a source. 'The Paris St-Germain game in the UEFA Cup last year was much worse. That night the away fans were fighting among themselves.'


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1244852/Manchester-derby-fall-The-ugly-truth-ferocious-battle--Madchester.html

[rooney]

next target
win derby manchester di OT
2-0

[arief_oct]

harus menang ni biar makin lama shitty ngerasain tanpa major trophy...

[adie_7]

3-0 FOR UNITED:muscarf::muscarf::muscarf:

[bruce]

Manchester United is the best team in Manchester. :thumbup:

[B4YU]

suasana di luar :D

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[zudomiriku]

Kepala Bellamy Korban Old Trafford
Arya Perdhana - detiksport


Manchester - Pertandingan Manchester United versus Manchester City memang selalu panas. Striker City Craig Bellamy bahkan jadi korban lemparan dari penonton jahil di Old Trafford.

Selain sebagai sebuah rivalitas tradisional, suhu laga teranyar MU vs City di Old Trafford, Kamis (28/1/2010) dinihari WIB, memanas karena merupakan laga leg kedua semifinal Piala Carling.

Dalam sebuah situasi, Bellamy yang sedang akan mengambil tendangan sudut, tiba-tiba dilempar koin di kepala. Bellamy beruntung karena lemparan lain, yakni sebuah botol bir, cuma nyaris kena kepalanya.

Bellamy sempat terjatuh akibat lemparan tersebut, namun tak lama kemudian ia segera bangkit sembari mengusap-usap kepalanya.

Kepada The Sun, manajer City Roberto Mancini mengaku tidak melihat kejadian itu. Sedangkan Sir Alex Ferguson dari kubu tuan rumah menolak berkomentar.

Bellamy memang menjadi salah satu 'musuh' Old Trafford. Pada saat kedua klub bentrok di tempat yang sama, 20 September tahun lalu, Bellamy sempat terlibat sebuah peristiwa yang tak kalah kontroversial.

Saat itu, seorang fans MU masuk ke lapangan seusai pertandingan. Bellamy yang berada di dekatnya kemudian sempat memukul si penyusup itu. Belakangan, si penyusup dilarang masuk ke stadion manapun di Inggris selama tiga tahun, sedangkan Bellamy bebas sanksi.

Besar kemungkinan peristiwa setengah tahun lalu itulah yang membuat Bellamy (selain Carlos Tevez yang mantan punggawa 'Setan Merah') menjadi 'public enemy number 1' di Old Trafford.

Kembali ke kejadian teraktual, siapapun pelaku yang ketahuan melakukan pelemparan nyaris pasti akan dihukum dilarang masuk Old Trafford dalam jangka waktu tertentu.

Yang lebih besar, MU sendiri juga dapat dikenai hukuman berupa larangan menggelar pertandingan dengan penonton atau penutupan sebagian sektor stadion.

[rooney]

kemenangan manis di OT
city memang blm saatnya dapet trophy
hehehe...

[B4YU]

Hanya ada satu team di Manchester ... yaitu yg berbaju merah....;))

Chris Cohen - Talk of the Terrace, ESPN - 26/12/09

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[rooney]

Hanya ada satu team di Manchester ... yaitu yg berbaju merah....;))

Chris Cohen - Talk of the Terrace, ESPN - 26/12/09

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setuju bos
gak peduli city pemain dan pelatihnya siapa

[B4YU]

Another City Player Assaults Another United Fan?

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Craig Bellamy assaulted Manchester United fan, Jake Clarke, in front of the eyes of the world after City conceded a 96th minute goal by Michael Owen, after Bellamy thought he had earned a point for the blues in the last minute of normal time.

Another City fan has now been accused of assaulting another United fan in the club 42nd Street in town.

Michael Johnson, who is originally from Urmston and who played for City’s youth team, has allegedly head butted a United fan who was singing United songs on a night out.

Johnson is a Leeds fan who played for Everton’s youth academy before being snapped up by City when he was 16-years-old.

The City midfielder, who was ruled out for the season in December, has been arrested on suspicion of assault causing actual bodily harm and bailed until March 18.

The incident occurred just four days before Johnson apparently picked up a season-ending injury in training.

Rumour has it that Johnson is big on the Manchester party scene and that he is regularly seen pissed out of his face.

The United fan claims he was was head-butted, knocked to the ground, then kicked whilst he was on the floor.

“Just after 1am on Sunday, 6 December 2009, a patrol car was flagged down and an officer was told a man had been assaulted,” said a spokesperson for Greater Manchester Police. “The 22-year-old victim reported that he had been assaulted in 42nd Street nightclub. The man had a cut to the face but no other injuries.”


http://therepublikofmancunia.com/another-city-player-assaults-another-united-fan/

[B4YU]

dah mulai panas neh..

Man City v Man Utd – fancy getting your own giant billboard?

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Fancy seeing your favourite chant or slogan in letters six feet tall on a poster in the centre of Manchester? Well now is your big chance!

www.cityutd.com offers one lucky fan of Manchester United, and another of Manchester City the once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to have their own words displayed on a giant billboard in Manchester.

The poster will be located at Deansgate and will show rival fans’ slogans or chants in giant letters in the build-up to the eagerly-anticipated Manchester City v Manchester United derby on Saturday 17th April. Your words could inspire your team to the victory they so desperately want over their most fierce rivals.

With a range of designs available you can really personalise your poster, and even send it to friends and family. All submissions will be hosted on www.cityutd.com, where visitors will be able to rate each poster in order to reward one lucky fan of each club the honour of having their slogan/chant as the centre of attention in Manchester.

Designing your poster can take as little as two minutes so visit www.cityutd.com and do your bit for your club.


http://therepublikofmancunia.com/man-city-v-man-utd-fancy-getting-your-own-giant-billboard/

[rondwisan]

16/04/2010 07:00 - ManUtd.com, Geoff Berkeley
Great wins over City

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Clean sheets have been key to four of United's last five away wins in Manchester derbies. The exception was a five-goal thriller 14 years ago...

Maine Road, 6 April 1996, 3-2, (Cantona, Cole, Giggs)
A game of great significance for both sides, with City on the fringes of relegation, while United were involved in a titanic tussle for the title with Kevin Keegan’s Newcastle, who'd held a 10-point lead at Christmas. Eric Cantona's early penalty and an Andrew Cole strike - either side of Mikhail Kavelashvili's equaliser - put the Reds 2-1 up at half-time, but when Uwe Rosler netted in the 72nd minute, it looked as though the Blues had secured a vital point. Step forward Ryan Giggs for a stunning winner, jubilantly celebrated by the away fans. United went on to win the Double while City were relegated on goal difference.

Maine Road, 18 November 2000, 1-0 (Beckham)
The first derby for four years - while City were out of the top flight - had all the classic ingredients: strong challenges, verbal exchanges and a moment of magic. Before any of the dust could settle between the two sides, the recently-appointed England captain David Beckham struck a trademark 30-yard free-kick to seize the lead inside two minutes. The resulting score line did not truly reflect what was an exhilarating match, as both sides created numerous chances. The Reds held on to secure a sixth straight victory, along the way to what would be a third successive title.

Eastlands, 13 February 2005, 2-0 (Rooney, Dunne og)
Wayne Rooney’s impressive debut season continued as he stole the show on United's second visit to Eastlands. The 19 year-old broke the deadlock from Gary Neville's cross on 68 minutes, striking a deflected shot past David James. Seven minutes later, Rooney burst into the box and fired towards goal, only for Richard Dunne to intervene and steer it past his own keeper. Despite this fifth win on a spin, later setbacks meant United were unable to seriously challenge for the title, finishing 18 points behind Chelsea.

Eastlands, 5 May 2007, 1-0 (Ronaldo)
Days after bowing out of the Champions League semi final to eventual winners Milan, United had to galvanise for a crucial league game. Sir Alex's men duly responded, taking the lead through Cristiano Ronaldo's penalty just before half time. Nerves were jangling as the match wore on and the Reds nearly surrendered the points 10 minutes from time when Wes Brown fouled Michael Ball, who earlier escaped a red card when referee Rob Styles missed his stamp on Ronaldo. Darius Vassell stepped up to the spot but to our great relief, Edwin van der Sar saved his kick and 24 hours later United were confirmed as champions.

Eastlands, 30 November 2008, 1-0 (Rooney)
Penalty-scoring hero in the previous win at Eastlands, Ronaldo became the villain when he received a second yellow for a blatant handball. Fortunately this did not derail the Reds too much as a dominant display delivered a win, thanks to Rooney hammering in his 100th United goal just before the break.

[rondwisan]

Gallery : City classic - ManUtd.com


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Wayne Rooney celebrates his winner at Eastlands last season


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Cristiano Ronaldo was sent off last term after this handball...

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...but United held out for the win thanks to Rooney's goal

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Ronaldo converted a crucial penalty in May 2007...

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... and Edwin van der Sar later saved a Darius Vassell spot-kick as United took a giant stride towards the title

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Sir Alex Ferguson couldn't hide his delight at the final whistle

[rondwisan]

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Rooney netted the opener in a 2-0 win in February 2005

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Roy Keane bossed the midfield in the November 2000 encounter...

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... which was settled by David Beckham's early goal

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Nicky Butt and Michael Brown battle for possession in April 1996

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Eric Cantona scored from the spot to help United to a 3-2 win that day

[GloryGloryWR]

Yes, smlam mng lgi 0-1 d Eastland, Mksih Scholes, mpe bnting2 barang gw. MU Champions 2010 :putra:
:champ:

[rondwisan]

Glasses half full
MEN, Paul Handler - 15th May, 2010


I’ve just been taking a look back through United and City’s seasons for the MEN’s season reviews (free with the MEN on Tuesday and Wednesday).

The overriding feeling I get from both sets of fans is one of anti-climax.

Although at one stage United were in good shape in the Premier League and the Champions League, the fans posting into our message boards never seemed overwhelmed by the type of football being produced at Old Trafford.

And of course a sense of disillusionment on the pitch was underpinned by growing opposition to the Glazer ownership via the Green and Gold campaign.

There is almost the sense that some fans would actually like to see United falter so they can vent their full fury. Maybe that’s just my imagination though.

I suppose the largest smiles from United were produced by a remarkable series of derby games. Four matches, three wins including three injury time goals.

Which all, of course, added to the misery at City. Despite their best ever Premier League finish, Blues highlights only really came by way of the odd satisfying result. The double over Chelsea and victories over Arsenal come into that category, as do the spankings of Burnley and Birmingham.

But again, I never had the sense, from reading the message boards, that the fans were really convinced by what they were seeing.

Then of course there was the Mark Hughes fiasco, which had even hardened students of the club’s pantomime past scratching their heads.

It’s been a funny old season, and one I think that has left fans on the Red and Blue half of Manchester unfulfilled.

[mac_matthew]

ga da terjemahannya ni mas.. ga ngerti.. heheh

[Redsbusby]

Penentu ttg si Owen belum di post kayaknya, supersub wktu City lawan MU, Michael Owen....

[rondwisan]

The day Paul Scholes got plenty of lip
MEN, Andy Mitten - August 04, 2010


All eyes will be on the Manchester derby this season – just as they were last term. So often a letdown which failed to justify the hype, the derby consistently lived up to its billing last season, with four proper battles between Red and Blue, including two epic cup semi-finals.

United came out top dogs, winning three out of the four in dramatic fashion as the Reds again finished above City and won the Carling Cup. The results were no surprise when you consider the attitude of several United players towards their Blue neighbours.

Speaking in The Story of Our Season: The Official Manchester United Players’ Diary 2009-10, which comes out tomorrow, several United players show the depth of feeling and their determination to beat City.

Of the final derby game of the season at City and his last-minute winner, Paul Scholes remarked: "I know how much this will mean to our fans. I can assure you it means exactly the same to us. To win in a Manchester derby is a big thing, however you do it."

The dramatic finale raised the temperature among the home supporters, and Darron Gibson, having been substituted, was well-placed to sample their ire.

"I was going mad on the bench near the City fans," he recalled.

"They weren’t happy and there were nearly a few punches thrown in there. When we scored a few of them leaned over to try and get to us, but there's nothing you can do about that. To be honest, I wouldn't have minded being punched, so long as we won!

"There was a lot riding on that game in the week leading up to it," added United captain Gary Neville. "You could tell at the start of the game that it was carnival time for them. There was a feeling around the place that it was their day, that they were going to win, that they were going to get fourth place and we were going to end up losing the championship.

"What they weren't reckoning on was that they were playing United, and it doesn't quite happen that way. They were up against 11 players who were determined to make sure we won the game.

"Paul Scholes was outstanding on the day and for him to pop up with the winner was unbelievable. For me, it was the outstanding moment of the season. We knew we were out of the league if we didn’t win the game.

Break

"We were the ones trying to win the game, whereas City were bringing defensive midfielders on for forwards. Three times we’ve shown them that we go to the last second of every match.

"The mentality of the team is always to try to win every match, so late winners aren’t luck. We got the break we needed with a great cross and a great header.

"It’s the hardest way to win, of course, but the best way. If you can score in the last minute, there’s no comeback – they just don’t have the time."

Neville celebrated by planting a congratulatory kiss on match-winner Scholes’ lips.

"Nev did get some stick for that, but poor Scholesy couldn't do much, could he?" confirmed John O'Shea.

"He was the poor victim who tried to push him off, but it was too late. That’s Gaz for you. I don’t think it was for his benefit, mind you. I think it was to make the City fans feel that little bit angrier!"

Neville can now see the funny side. "A few people have given me a bit of stick, but I’ve spoken to a lot of my mates, who said they’d have done exactly the same if they’d been able to get to him! I was just so happy."

And what of Scholes’ reaction to being pounced on by his long-term friend and colleague?

"A kiss on the lips from Nev is worth it any time after a winner against City!" he said.

The chance for Ryan Giggs to appear in his 33rd successive Manchester derby was too tempting and the veteran winger was selective with the truth when evaluating his hamstring injury with the club’s medical staff ahead of the game.

"I hurt my hamstring against Blackburn and I thought my season was over, to be honest,' Giggs recalled.

"But I had treatment and it responded really well and I was desperate to play. I trained on the Friday and I could still feel my hamstring a little bit, so I just kept quiet.'

Neville recognises that City are an emerging force, however.

"Don't get me wrong: City will be powerful over the next few years – we’ve got to get our heads around that," he said.

"But that was a sweet day." That's not to say we haven't suffered against them in the past or will do in the future - you have your day and you celebrate; next time it could be their day. In that case you have to go and drink for sorrow rather than drink for joy.'The players they’re signing, the manager they've got, the fanbase they’ve got . . . they will be powerful.