[Hottest] Man United vs Arsenal

[rondwisan]

Musim ini, kita sdh tau siapa yg bersaing memperebutkan posisi puncak Premier League, Manchester United dan Arsenal. Melihat dari sejarah, kedua tim ini di era 90an sudah mulai bertarung. Baik di ajang PL, FA Cup, bahkan Community Shield dan Carling Cup. Penghantian rekor, adu penalti, kartu merah bahkan perkelahian di lapanganpun tak terelakkan. Penghentian rekor unbeaten Arsenal d 50th game oleh United d OT, adu penalti merebut FA Cup, kartu merah bg Jeffers dan Reyes, serta merta aksi pukul yg dilakukan Keown dkk terhadap Ruutje adalah salah satu contohnya. Pertarungan panas tentu tidak hanya terjadi di dalam lapangan. Panas! :api Itulah yg jg terjadi di ruang ganti atau tunnel. Mulai dr psy war sampai aksi lempar pizza d ruang ganti pemain.

Nah d thread ini gw pengen kalian sharing mana par*** Manchester United vs Arsenal paling hot, paling seru, menegangkan. Tidak hanya di lapangan, mungkin kalian tertarik dgn keributan d luar lapangan... :gubrax

Paling panas menurut gw sih waktu skor 0-0 di OT... lupa gw,.. ahrus ngubek2 data dulu nich..
waktu itu setelah RVN gagal Pinalti di menit 90.. pemain2 Arsenal langsung pada menghujat dia....
gw paling kesel liat mukanya KEOWN ama LAUREN.. males banget deh.. akhirnya apda berantem tuh semuanya.. sampai GIGGS dan RONALDO pun ikutan ribut.. seru deh.. ^ ^

ato mungkin kasus PIZZA GATE yg melyang kemukanya Fergie... UNTOLD STORY....

bukanx gkreatif bro.,tp kt bner2 idem sm Mas Boy,....pengen sy tembak aj tuh pemain2 yg ngroyok RVN andai sy ad dstu n pux pistol tentux...hehee....

kebencian ama tuh tim memuncak pada saat itu ampe skrg....

yupe, yg paling hot waktu MU & Arsenal lagi bersaing memperebutkan gelar juara. RVN gagal mencetak gol dari pinalti, trus langsung dikerubuti & diejek2 pemain Arsenal deh

:ju sm mas boy...
game itu bener² panas, apa lagi yg pas pemain arsenal mulai memprovokasi...
wuuiihh untung aja ga smp ribut gede tuh...

@ putra, itu klo ga salah di musim 2003-2004. kita main seri di OT. bener banget,tuh kejadian asli bikin panas hati. rasanya pengen nonjok balik tuh si keown, lauren, dll yg pada ngerubutin Ruudtje..

yg ga kalah seru jg pas dulu keano vs vieira..
sempet adu jotos kan dolo..

yoi bener bgt
masih inget g sejelas2nya tampank si KEOWN yang nyebelin bgt ud mulutnya paling gede pake ngedorong2 RVN segala.duh g paling jijai deh klo ud liat si KEONG laganya sok jagoan bgt ud bangkotan juga
jangankan GIGGS ama Ronaldo NEVILLE bersaudara juga ikutan ribut tuh n hampir seluruh skuad UNITED yg maen

paling panas menurut g pertandingan saat itu, sebelum RVN mau ambil penalti juga pemain arsenal ud pada cuap2 semua jadi grogi deh tuh.boro2 masuk tendangannya melenceng kemana tau

pertandingan paling asik yang waktu Keano ama viera ribut di tunnel
seru bgt tuh babak pertama kalah 2-1 eh fulltimenya menank 4-2 .kemenangan serasa lebih manis apalagi menanknya dikandang mereka

pertandingan lawan arsenal selalu bnyk kejadian seru deh.

:ju sama ide MasBoy...
Tp dr pertandingan tersebut, gw bs lihat sebener provokatornya itu Lehmann!!! Meski Keown dan Lauren jg salah satu aktornya...
Believe it or not kiper Jerman inilah yg paling sk provokasi...
Tiap par*** melawan Gunners gw pling gak dmen nih pmain...
Back again, par*** September 2003 itu membuat beberapa pemain Arsenal dskorsing 5 laga kalo gk salah... Keown dan Lauren tentu...

Tp par*** yg gak kalah seru yaitu pemberhentian rekor Arsenal d angka 49 oleh kita d Theatre of Dreams... Tepat pd ultah Rooney, Ruudtje dan Roo menyumbang gol.. Ruud melalui titik putih setelahn Roo secara kontroversial dijatuhkan Sol Campbell, sedangkan Roo meneruskan umpan Smudge dari sisi kiri pertahanan Gunners...
Itu jg panas...!!! Bahkan d akhir laga Carroll dan Henry sempat bersitegang... :api

gue demen ama pertandingan liga 1999/2000...kita ngelawat ke highbury....
saat itu keano bikin 2 gol ke gawang arsenal....lalu dibalas ama ljungberg...alhasil...kita ngebungkan publik gooners 2-1....di menit akhir raymond van der gouw cedera diganti ma nick culkin....

tapi uniknya fan united maupun arsenal kagak sepanas united-pool ataupun arse-chel

.................................................. .........................

[rondwisan]

betul..emang lehmann tuh..grr..sumpah..keki ma tu orang..tpi jujurna si..mau liat mereka brantem lagi..*kabur*..ahaha..jadi kangen ma keano..XD

Pertandingan yang Bro' maksud itu emang Psy warnya udah dari jauh hari...
Gw ingat ada artikal di The Daily Mirror dan di The Sun...

CARROLL: Arsenal will shoot blank!

itu artikel yang note bene hasil interview dengan kiper MU saat itu, Carroll, Carroll jelas2 menantang The Gunners dan dia siap menjaga "Clean Sheet" United !

Belum lagi Banner yang dibawa para Fans/supporter United yang bertuliskan: "NOT IN OUR HOME!!" (Red: Arsenal mencari Unbeaten Run ke-50)...

Emang tuh ParT a1 Udah bertuliskan PERANG dan RIBUT dimana-mana!!

hihihihi ..., ex gunners kesayangannya Mas Boy nih ... :gubrax
______________________________________________

Vieira: Keane was one of best
MEN - 2/12/2008

http://m.gmgrd.co.uk/res/240.$plit/C_71_article_1083115_image_list_image_list_item_0_ image.jpg?02%2F12%2F2008%2019%3A41%3A06%3A454
RIVALS: Keane and Vieira clash in 2005

FORMER Arsenal captain Patrick Vieira has named long-time Manchester United adversary Roy Keane as one of the best players he has ever played against.

Vieira and Keane, now manager of Sunderland, clashed regularly as their two clubs battled it out for Premier League supremacy.

They most famously squared up to each other in the tunnel before a game at Highbury in February 2005 - which United went on to win 4-2 - and had to be pulled apart by referee Graham Poll.

But when asked to name the best player he has had to face, Vieira, who now plays for Inter Milan, told Ford's Feel Football programme: “For me, being in England for nine years, I would have said Roy Keane. He is really tough, really strong, but he was fair.

“What I like about him is the fact that he would not talk, he would take the kick, he would not say anything, then, on the next one, he would give it to you and he would expect, of course, that you say nothing.

“He's not the kind of player who talks a lot. So he'll take the kick, he will give back, but I like him - he's quite fair.”

Vieira also revealed his admiration for Keane's former central midfield partner at Old Trafford, Paul Scholes.

Speaking in conversation with former Bayern Munich player Stefan Effenberg, he said: “One that may surprise you is Scholes - because I never knew how to mark him."

he said: “One that may surprise you is Scholes - because I never knew how to mark him."

Hehehe..susah ya dulu ngejagain scholes..kecil2 cabe rawit tuh..vieira aja nyerah nge-marking scholes.. :bravo

wah wah pengakuan dari seorang rival keano yg paling deket hehehe

"produk" mana dulu :ole :ole

......................................

[rondwisan]

Manchester United - Arsenal, dari Perkelahian sampai Skandal Pizza
KOMPAS.com — 16/4/2009 | 09:46 WIB

http://www.kompas.com/data/photo/2009/04/16/0948107p.jpg

LONDON, Manchester United (MU) dan Arsenal sudah sering bertemu di Premier League. Permusuhan pun semakin sengit. Apalagi, mereka bertemu di semifinal Liga Champions. Ini bakal menggugah emosi karena akan mempertaruhkan gengsi demi indahnya histori.

Aroma panas sudah menjalar, begitu Manchester United dan Arsenal lolos ke semifinal untuk bertemu. Leg pertama akan digelar di Old Trafford pada 29 April dan leg kedua di Stadion Emirates, 5 Mei 2009.

"Partai semifinal akan sangat berat. Apalagi, ini akan mempertemukan sesama klub Inggris yang bakal menjadi bumbu tersendiri," kata Manajer Manchester United Sir Alex Ferguson.

Ya, bumbunya bisa jadi akan sangat pedas karena rivalitas sengit mereka. Orang masih ingat pada 2004, kala Manchester United menghentikan rekor tak terkalahkan Arsenal sebanyak 49 pertandingan. Situasi panas menjalar. Seorang pemain Arsenal bahkan sempat terpancing emosi dan melemparkan pizza ke wajah Ferguson. Kasus ini akhirnya dikenal sebagai Skandal Pizza.

Pada pertemuan berikutnya, terjadi keributan di lorong menuju ruang ganti. Patrick Vieira (Arsenal) cekcok dengan Gary Neville. Kapten Manchester United saat itu, Roy Keane, tak terima. Dia pun berkelahi dengan Patrick Viera.

Kini, keduanya sama-sama siap saling mengalahkan. Pelatih Arsenal Arsene Wenger mengatakan, timnya sudah sangat matang dan siap meladeni siapa pun.

"Kami malah berharap Manchester United akan menunjukkan permainan terbaiknya. Itu akan merangsang kami untuk menunjukkan permainan terbaik," tantang Wenger.

Ferguson tak mau kalah. Dia berencana akan memanfaatkan partai pertama di kandang sendiri.

"Kami tim yang mampu memainkan sepak bola dnegan baik. Partai semifinal akan sangat menggetarkan, tapi kami sudah tak sabar menunggunya," katanya.

Meski begitu, dia mengakui Arsenal bukan lawan yang ringan. "Kemenangan di leg pertama dengan skor 1-0 sudah akan cukup bagus. Tapi, ini tak akan mudah," ingatnya.

Yang membuat Ferguson merasa yakin, dua defender utama, Rio Ferdinand dan Nemanja Vidic, sudah kembali bisa berduet lagi. Mereka merupakan penjelmaan duet Gary Pallister dan Steve Bruce yang pernah sangat legendaris selama membela Manchester United.

"Kami punya duet Bruce dan Pallister selama enam atau tujuh tahun yang sangat fantastis. Kini ada Ferdinand dan Vidic yang punya kualitas serupa. Mereka saling mengisi dan membangun keseimbangan," puji Ferguson.

Namun, Wenger juga makin yakin kepada timnya. Menurutnya, Arsenal sempat labil di awal musim karena kebanyakan pemain muda. Namun, mereka mampu melewati masa sulit dan kini sudah dewasa, pun punya nafsu besar untuk sukses.

Ah, pertemuan sesama klub Inggris ini pasti bakal panas lagi.

selama beberapa musim terakhir ini kita sampe lupa sama rivalitas di tahun '90-an dengan Arsenal.... bahkan sampe 3/4 musim ini pun begitu.. tapi ternyata kayanya Arsenal justru bakal jadi rintangan penentu yang harus kita lewati gak cuma di UCL tapi juga EPL.... atau bahkan di FA Cup nantinya....

momen terkeren 'pertarungan' antara Keano dan Vieira tuh insiden di terowongan ruang ganti itu... :top

neh:
GwcpFXOsrY8

blom dilapangan aja dah ribut. penyelesaiannya di lapangan :D

yg paling keren ada 2 : pizzagate & Keano vs Viera

yg paling menyebalkan waktu kalah penalty FA Cup final :(

........................................

[rondwisan]

mengenang rivalitas Manchester United - Arsenal di era '90-an...

===============

Manchester United v Arsenal: Ray Parlour relives classic encounters
Roy Keane responded emphatically when asked recently for one lingering wish in football. "Manchester United against Arsenal – if you could go back for one game, then that would be the game," he said.

By Jeremy Wilson | telegraph.co.uk

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01392/ray-parlour-pa_1392837c.jpg

"Those games were brilliant, absolutely fantastic, the best. You would give anything to play in one of those games again."
With another great showdown appraoching in the Champions League, it is a sentiment shared by some of the old warriors from the Arsenal team of that same era, notably Ray Parlour.

"Without doubt," says Parlour, "and I really enjoyed my battles with Roy Keane – he was a very fair player, a very honest player. If you kicked him, he got straight back up, and if he kicked you, you got straight back up.

"We respected each other. It was fantastic, it was a great atmosphere, the fans knew it would be a fiery affair. For us that was always the crunch game, you talk about Arsenal and Tottenham and that was a massive game, but Manchester United was always the one for the league title or the FA Cup.

"They were the team you wanted to beat. We took defeat very badly and we made sure it didn't happen a lot. You didn't go out there thinking, 'we are going to try to win', we went out there thinking, 'we are going to win somehow'. For me, that's how you have to be as a footballer. You have to be ruthless. They were doing the same."

So which of those matches lingers longest in the memory? Given his distaste for any defeat, it is perhaps not surprising that Parlour should instantly opt for the famous FA Cup semi-final of 1999. "It doesn't feel like 10 years ago," he says. "It was an amazing game and fantastic to watch. To have a penalty to win the game in the last kick of normal time, it was quite emotional, a roller-coaster and then Ryan Giggs scored that wonder goal.

"There have always been really good games, close either way really, going back to 1997-98 was one of the most memorable for me when we beat them 3-2 at Highbury. We won the league for the first time in a while, we won the double that year, it was an amazing season. There was also obviously then Sylvain Wiltord scoring to win the double in 2002, they are great memories."

There were also some rather infamous occasions. The so-called 'battle of the buffet' in 2004 and, of course, the Premier League match in 2003 that saw Parlour fined £10,000 and banned for one game following his reaction to Ruud van Nistelrooy's missed last-minute penalty.

"They were very emotional games sometimes, very competitive, you are playing against players who are desperate to win," says Parlour. "It wasn't good sportsmanship from me, the emotion got to us and it wasn't right what we did. It was the last minute, we expected to get beat 1-0 so it shows what relief can do for you."

Parlour, though, remains adamant that Van Nistelrooy had provoked Arsenal. "I don't care, he dived, he got Patrick Vieira sent off," he said.

Yet behind the headlines, the tackles, the sendings off and the trophies, Parlour also describes a mutual admiration between the players and two managers. "After the game we would speak to each other, we respected each other," he says. "We wanted to be the best, so did Man United. You get fiery games, people wanting to get stuck in, I'm sure you will get it in the Champions League this week.

"The managers are a bit older now, I think Sir Alex Ferguson respects Arsene Wenger and I think Arsene Wenger respects Sir Alex Ferguson for what they have achieved – they are both fantastic managers, they have the mentality that they want to win."

Predictably, though, Parlour is tipping Arsenal to progress to the Champions League final in Rome next month. " I have got a sneaky feeling Arsenal can get through this game, it's going to be difficult, Manchester United are a very good side but Arsenal are playing with a lot of confidence," he says.

"The 4-4 draw against Liverpool was unbelievable, they showed great character after going down 2-1. They have had a great run – they are a very good team, on their day they can beat everybody. If they play football like they can, no one can stand in their way. To win the Champions League is the ultimate and they have still got a reasonable chance. If they can win that, it would be a brilliant season."

Old rivals step back in the ring
MEN, Stuart Mathieson - April 28, 2009



IN April, 1904 the UK and France settled on peaceful co-existence after years of conflict.

No such Entente Cordiale has been signed by Sir Alex Ferguson and Arsene Wenger, but there has been a distinct mellowing between the two rivals.

At 67 and 59 there has been a watering down of a once combustible cocktail, as the pair prepare to renew rivalries in the Champions League semi-finals.

Last September there was a sense of harmony when they were on stage together at a gala dinner at Wembley.

The accord at "An evening with Sir Alex Ferguson and Arsene Wenger" may have been a touch awkward, but a black tie and leather chair question and answer session was an unthinkable scenario not so long ago.

"Put us on a football pitch and there's a bit of a difference," said Ferguson, which suggests with two highly pressurised Champions League ties to come this week and next the peace might soon be shattered.

Calm

There has been a relative calm since the "Pizzagate" incident at Old Trafford when the Reds boss ended up with soup and pizza down his suit jacket after a tunnel fracas.

The "Battle of the Buffet" in October 2004 came after United ended Arsenal's "Invincibles" 49-match unbeaten Premier League run.

Wenger reflected: "It was really fierce with the 49th game. That was the most aggressive one and after it calmed down because you cannot always be in that kind of situation."

It has been game on in the psychological warfare department since Wenger was the surprise choice as Arsenal boss in 1996.

But Wenger is not convinced about the value of mind games.

"I believe it was always something which was overrated a bit," he said. "You never know how much impact it has because it is impossible to measure.

"It is a little bit like advertising. It is needed but what impact it has on sales you never know."

United were the 1996 Premier League and FA Cup double winners when the unknown Wenger came over from Grampus Eight in Japan.

In his first full season at Highbury, Arsenal overturned a 12-point title lead to become the 1998 double winners.

And by then, Wenger had already got under Fergie's skin.

"He's a novice," said the United boss. "He should keep his opinions to Japanese football.

"They say he's an intelligent man, right? Speaks five languages! I've got a 15-year old boy from the Ivory Coast who speaks five languages!"

United v Arsenal became the biggest rivalry in the Premier League and the tension mounted as the two chiefs jostled for supremacy.

In September 2003 an Old Trafford match ended in turmoil with Arsenal's so-called playground antics after a Ruud van Nistelrooy missed penalty.

It led to six Arsenal players being charged by the FA and the London club charged with failing to ensure the proper behaviour of their players.

Ryan Giggs and Cristiano Ronaldo were also charged with improper conduct and Phil Neville warned about his future conduct.

But worse was to follow in 2004 and the animosity dragged on for months.

Tactics

Wenger's "cheat" claims about Van Nistelrooy after his side were beaten 2-0 stoked the fire.

"These type of tactics are exactly what I expected from Manchester United," blasted an angry Wenger. "We know how Ruud van Nistelrooy behaves. He can only cheat people - we know him very well."

Wenger was fined and severely reprimanded by the FA for his comments.

Fergie came back by saying, "The guy has obviously got a mental problem with Ruud van Nistelrooy for some reason?"

Fergie later added: "Wenger was criticising my players, calling them cheats, so I told him to leave them alone and behave himself.

"He ran at me with hands raised saying `what do you want to do about it?" Wenger responded, saying: "Ferguson's out of order. He has lost all sense of reality.

"He is going out looking for a confrontation, then asking the person he is confronting to apologise. He's pushed the cork in a bit far this time."

Watershed

But the pizza chucking tunnel barney seems to have, ultimately, been a watershed.

Nobody has emerged from Old Trafford or the Emirates waving a piece of paper declaring "peace in our time" but the stormy relationship has certainly sailed into calmer waters.

Only a pop at Arsenal's Emirates security from Fergie and a mild retort at the United boss from Wenger over Fergie's backing for a cap on foreigners have threatened the harmony.

Chelsea's emergence as a force in 2006 and the outspoken antics of Jose Mourinho at Stamford Bridge helped distracted the former foes.

Now Liverpool's Rafa Benitez with his fact sheets and rants has attracted Fergie's attention.

But get your tin hats ready, just in case, as the Champions League verbals get underway!

Jelang MU vs Arsenal
Akhirnya Bertemu di Eropa
Andi Abdullah Sururi - detiksport



Di kompetisi Inggris Manchester United dan Arsenal memiliki sejarah rivalitas yang tinggi. Meski demikian baru kali ini mereka akan berduel di kancah Eropa, dimulai tengah malam nanti di Old Trafford.

Berikut ini beberapa data pertemuan dan fakta menjelang pertandingah MU versus Arsenal di leg I babak semifinal Liga Champions, Kamis (30/4/2009) dinihari WIB:

- Kedua tim telah bertemu 205 kali di semua kompetisi; MU menang 82 kali, Arsenal, 78, seri 45 kali.

- Ini akan menjadi pertemuan ke-38 Sir Alex Ferguson dan 'Profesor' Arsene Wenger. Dari 37 partai sebelumnya, Fergie menang 13 kali, Wenger unggul 14 kali. Sepuluh lainnya berakhir seri, dan dua sisanya ditentukan oleh adu penalti: MU menang di Community Shield 2003, Arsenal unggul di final Piala FA 2005.

- Ini adalah musim ketiga berturut-turut, dan keempat kalinya dalam lima tahun terakhir, dua tim Inggris bertemu di semifinal Liga Champions. Sebelumnya, sejarah itu tercatat atas nama Chelsea versus Liverpool.

- MU sedang berusaha memperpanjang rekor 23 pertandingan tanpa kalah di level Eropa. Mereka juga sudah memainkan 150 partai Liga Champions dengan menghasilkan 78 kemenangan.

- MU pernah bertemu sesama klub Inggris di tiga kompetisi Eropa sebelumnya, dan selalu menang. Mereka mengalahkan Tottenham Hotspur 4-3 secara agregat di Piala Winners 1963/1964, menekuk Everton 3-2 agregat di Piala UEFA di musim berikutnya, dan tahun lalu saat menaklukkan Chelsea di final Liga Champions lewat adu penalti.

- MU tak terkalahkan dalam 20 laga kandang di kancah LC, dan memenangi 15 di antaranya, Mereka memasukkan 41 gol dan kebobolan 12 gol.

- Laga adalah yang ke-100 bagi Arsenal dalam sejarah keikutsertaan mereka di kompetisi Eropa, atau yang ke-50 khusus di Liga Champions.

- Arsenal butuh satu gol lagi untuk menjumlahkan koleksi total golnya menjadi 300 melawan MU. Sebaliknya, MU sudah 309 kali menjebol gawang The Gunners.

- Arsenal tak pernah mengalahkan sesama klub Inggris di Eropa. Mereka kalah 3-5 dari Liverpool di perempatfinal musim lalu, dan 2-3 dari Chelsea di babak yang sama empat tahun sebelumnya. Mereka kalah setelah seri 1-1 di leg pertama.

- Arsenal tak pernah gagal di semifinal Eropa. Total, mereka pernah enam kali menjejak level ini di semua kompetisi Eropa: tiga di Piala Winners, dua di Piala UEFA/Fairs Cup, dan satu kali di Liga Champions. Mereka juga tak pernah kalah di leg pertama, menang empat kali dan seri dua kali.

- Top skorer Arsenal, Emmanuel Adebayor, telah mencetak delapan gol dari delapan penampilannya di Liga Champions.

ini beberapa verbal duel Opa Alex ama Prof Wenger, sebelum JM tune in di EPL ... :n :DD
__________________________________________________ ___________________

The war of words
A look at the key comments made by Fergie and Wenger
SkySport

http://img.skysports.com/08/11/218x298/Sir-Alex-Ferguson-Arsene-Wenger_1552679.jpg

More often than not, however, the rivalry has spilled over into verbal sparring, with neither manager afraid to speak up in defence of their respective clubs and players.

And although there are now signs of an entente cordialle between the pair, we recall some of the pair's memorable quotations.

WENGER ON FERGUSON

"Never again will I speak about that man." - Wenger attempts to step away from the feud with Ferguson which erupted after a fiery league clash in October 2004.

"I'm ready to take the blame for all the problems of English football if that is what he wants." - Wenger responds after Ferguson questions Arsenal's lack of homegrown players.

"Ferguson should calm down. Maybe it would have been better if he had put us against a wall and shot us." - more fallout from the testy October 2004 encounter.

"Ferguson's out of order. He has lost all sense of reality. He is going out looking for a confrontation, then asking the person he is confronting to apologise. He's pushed the cork in a bit far this time and lost a lot of credibility by saying what he said." - more bickering from January 2005.

"When we meet in airports we don't fight. Those meetings are even funny." - Wenger lifts the lid on a more cordial relationship with Ferguson.

"(The rivalry) dropped off for two years because we were not good enough. But I missed it greatly. This fixture is about tradition because in the last 10 years a lot of these games were the decider for the league championship" - Wenger laments the cooling of the competition with Ferguson in recent seasons.


FERGUSON ON WENGER

"They say he's an intelligent man, right? Speaks five languages. I've got a 15-year-old boy from the Ivory Coast who speaks five languages." - Ferguson plays down Wenger's linguistic dexterity in 2003.

"It's certainly not wrong that you should be seen to have a proportion of home-based players. I totally agree with that. But it would be a problem for a club like Arsenal." - Ferguson has a sly dig at Arsenal's foreign policy when questioned about Fifa's 'six-plus-five' proposal.

"He's a novice - he should keep his opinions to Japanese football." - Ferguson sticks the knife in during the early days of Wenger's Arsenal tenure.

"Their behaviour was the worst thing I have seen in this sport. They got off scot-free." - more aggro from the 2004/05 season.

"In the tunnel Wenger was criticising my players, calling them cheats, so I told him to leave them alone and behave himself. He ran at me with hands raised saying 'what do you want to do about it?' It's a disgrace, but I don't expect Wenger to ever apologise, he's that type of person." - Ferguson really gets stuck into Wenger in January 2005.

"Arsene Wenger disappoints me when he is reluctant to give Manchester United credit for what we have achieved. When Arsenal captured the Double in 1998 I held my hands up and praised them unreservedly... I suppose I will just have to accept that, between Old Trafford and Highbury, appreciation is pretty much a one-way street." - Ferguson lets his pen to do the talking in his autobiography, 'Managing My Life', in 2000.

.............................................

[rondwisan]

menjelang laga big match senen depan nih, ManUtd.com kembali menampilkan bbrp 'cerita' rivalitas dua team penghuni papan atas EPL ...
____________________________________________

10/12/2010 23:00, Johnny Sharp
Gunpowder, treason and plot: Part 1

http://www.manutd.com/~/media/2BD149E65FCF435DAABEC3644831E19A.ashx?h=179&la=ar-SA&w=480&rgn=1,156,600,378

In a three-part feature, we take a closer look at the modern-day rivalry with our North London adversaries...

When Alex Ferguson made the long journey south to take up his new post at Manchester United in November 1986, he would already have been aware of the long-standing rivalries enjoyed by his new club.

He will have looked at the fixture list and made a mental note of the Boxing Day fixture against champions Liverpool at Anfield, barely six weeks away. He'd have been glad of the breathing space before his first game against City – not due until March – and the home game with Howard Kendall’s newly formidable Everton at the end of February. But he had barely begun to warm the managerial hotseat when he found an unexpected new name joining the ranks of significant United adversaries.

As a meeting between two of the most famous and successful names of English football, Manchester United v Arsenal had always been a big game, but before Ferguson’s arrival there had only been flickers of real enmity. In October 1967 Denis Law and the Gunners’ Ian Ure were both sent off and banned for six weeks for fighting at Old Trafford, but it didn’t create lasting bad blood. The only time the clubs had properly fallen out was over United’s bid to buy Frank Stapleton in 1981, which went to a tribunal and resulted in the Highbury directors refusing to dine with their United counterparts before the two clubs’ next fixture. Arsenal’s first visit to OT during Ferguson’s reign, however, lit the blue touch paper to spark a rivalry that has smouldered and intermittently been ignited ever since.

On that day in January 1987, the Gunners were top of the league under new boss George Graham, and had gone 22 games unbeaten. United didn’t need much of an invitation to get stuck in. “It was one of those games when big Norman [Whiteside] did about 45 fouls and never got booked,” Sir Alex later recalled. “How he got away with it, I’ll never know.” Arsenal’s David Rocastle eventually retaliated and was sent off, and there were six other bookings. A year later, revenge was clearly on Arsenal minds at Highbury in the FA Cup fifth round. United, having been 2-0 down, had the chance to equalise from the spot, but Brian McClair blazed over and Arsenal full-back Nigel Winterburn followed Choccy back up the pitch to rub salt in the wounds.

It was plain there were still ‘issues’ at stake during a 1-0 win for Arsenal at our place in October 1990. Winterburn’s late tackle on Denis Irwin provoked McClair to come to the rescue with boots flying, followed by most of the other 21 players on the pitch. The resulting brawl – later dubbed ‘The Battle of Old Trafford’ – saw United docked one point and Arsenal two.

United avenged that infamous scene in more positive style by thumping Graham’s men 6-2 at Highbury in the Rumbelows Cup that season, but Arsenal took the return league fixture 3-1 in May 1991 on a galling occasion for the Reds: Liverpool’s defeat in an earlier kick-off meant Arsenal were champions, requiring the visitors to form a guard of honour. A period of United dominance followed, in which we were beaten only once in the 12 league meetings between May 1991 and November 1997, highlights including Eric Cantona’s thunderbolt free-kick in a 1-0 home win in September 1993 and his glorious, looping volley over David Seaman to win the corresponding fixture by the same scoreline in 1995/96.

[rondwisan]

12/12/2010 11:30 - ManUtd.com, Johnny Sharp
Gunpowder, treason and plot: Part 2

http://www.manutd.com/~/media/FE69B60C5CB043CC9F1D70ABBC8C0E7C.ashx?h=179&la=ar-SA&w=480&rgn=0,42,650,284

In part two of our feature, we look at the Ferguson-Wenger rivalry...

Arsenal's renaissance helped relight this fire, as Arsène Wenger breathed new life into the team. And after the Gunners reeled in an 11-point United lead in spring 1998, and a late Marc Overmars strike resulted in the Dutchman celebrating in front of the East Stand, United knew this was the most formidable challenge yet to our Premier League dominance.

The Gunners did the Double and began the following season with a convincing 3-0 win in the Charity Shield. They won by the same score at Highbury in the league in September, and the media was full of tales of a sea change at the top in England. Wenger, all studious continental sophistication, was apparently the master of Alex Ferguson, the old-school Glaswegian firebrand.

Yet forecasts of the great Scot’s demise looked premature come April, once both teams were battling it out for the title and in the FA Cup semi-finals. Over 240 minutes of football, a disallowed goal, Roy Keane’s dismissal and Peter Schmeichel’s penalty save cranked up the drama – but the tie will always be remembered for an individual goal from Ryan Giggs in extra time which is one of the greatest in our history. United took the title at a canter in the next two seasons, and a 6-1 drubbing at Old Trafford in February 2001 confirmed how far this mighty foe had now fallen. United fans’ joy at seeing them off was reflected in a new terrace song, to the tune of Volare: “Vieira, woah-oh, Vieira, he gave Giggsy the ball...” You know the rest.

The following season saw the southerners rise again, however, as United were put to the sword in the Worthington Cup and, in November 2001, in the Premier League, with seven goals shipped, the worst coming from a Fabien Barthez howler which put further focus on the failings of United’s rearguard. Worse was to come. In May 2002 Arsenal came north needing a draw to clinch the title, and Sylvain Wiltord’s late winner ensured the sobering spectacle of Wenger’s men celebrating the title on our turf. The following the north Londoners' glee didn’t last long. United overtook Arsenal at the top of the League, and a 2-2 draw at Highbury preserved the Reds’ lead at the summit en route to an eighth Premier League title.

The next clash, in September 2003, might have been goalless, but it arguably only intensified the antipathy between the two sides. Patrick Vieira was sent off for lashing out at van Nistelrooy, but Vieira’s team-mates felt the Dutchman play-acted, and when the striker missed an injury-time penalty they rushed to taunt him. The sight of Martin Keown doing a startling impression of a rabid orangutan will live long in the memory. The ‘Battle of Old Trafford’ tag was reprised 13 years after the original.

Later that season, Ferguson and Wenger clashed on the touchline during a 1-1 draw at Highbury, and there was plenty of bite in the tackles as United won an FA Cup semi-final 1-0. But once again Arsenal had the pleasure of taking the title off our hands, completing an unbeaten 2003/04 season into the bargain.

[fannyfanfan]

and semua ini hanya akan tersaji di laga panas bertajuk BATTLE OF THE BUFFET

[rondwisan]

13/12/2010 10:00 - ManUtd.com, Johnny Sharp
Gunpowder, treason & plot: III

In the final part of our feature, we recall Keano's tunnel rant and when it got tasty at OT...

http://www.manutd.com/~/media/FDDC1F57B5564F2492003E0707BE907F.ashx?h=179&la=ar-SA&w=480&rgn=0,38,600,261

The scene was set for a game which would go down in folklore – but more for what happened off the pitch than on it. United’s 2-0 victory in October 2004 stopped Arsenal from extending their unbeaten league run to 50 matches, but the visitors felt United had used excessively physical tactics to win and that Wayne Rooney had dived to get a penalty for the opening goal.

What happened next is disputed, but it is alleged that, as Ruud van Nistelrooy passed Arsène Wenger in the tunnel, the Arsenal coach had some harsh words for him which may or may not have included “cheat”, something he reported to his team-mates and manager. Ferguson angrily confronted Wenger, and in the ensuing mêlée, an Arsenal player is said to have thrown a piece of pizza at the United manager. The tabloid media gleefully dubbed this latest set-to ‘The Battle of the Buffet’.

All that went on away from the glare of the media, but four months later, at Highbury, the next episode was played out live before the Sky Sports cameras. Roy Keane was seen to confront Patrick Vieira in the players’ tunnel, allegedly reacting to an incident during the pre-game warm-up when Vieira had accosted Gary Neville about his team’s tactics back in October. Once Keane found out, he was pictured on live TV, with darkly furious eyes, telling Vieira: “I’ll see you out there...” How Neville must have felt when Keane appeared to be offering to fight his battles for him remains unclear, but the upshot was another feisty affair, where, despite Mikael Silvestre’s dismissal, United came from behind to win 4-2.

During this time, the relationship between the two managers had barely been any more civil than that between the players. Wenger had vowed not to speak Ferguson’s name, while the Frenchman was labelled “a disgrace” by Sir Alex.

It got to the point where there was pressure from the FA, the Premier League, the UK’s Minister for Sport, and even the Metropolitan Police, to bury the hatchet. And those efforts at brokering peace seemed to work – after that there were no more hostile public pronouncements from either side. The 2005 FA Cup final passed without major incident – though sadly the football was equally sterile, the Gunners finally prevailing on penalties. And of the 11 red cards (seven Arsenal, four United) in United v Arsenal games since Wenger’s arrival, only two (one for each side) have been brandished since 2004/05. It’s probably no accident that this new period of détente coincided with the emergence of the newly cashed-up Chelski, diluting the rivalry a little.

Yet in spite of United’s three titles since then, Arsenal have remained formidable opponents, not least in the 2006/07 season when they did the double over us, courtesy of two smash-and-grab raids – remember Thierry Henry’s late winner at the Emirates? And other recent clashes have provided more memorable moments: Owen Hargreaves’ free-kick to end Arsenal’s title hopes in 2008 was world class; Arsenal’s 2-1 win at the Emirates the following season was something of a classic; and United put the Londoners firmly in their place with a scintillating, second-leg display in the 2009 Champions League to win 3-1 and reach the final.

There were flickers of the old passions when Wenger was sent to the stands after he displayed too much emotion for the officials’ liking when his side were denied a couple of penalty claims in their 2-1 defeat at Old Trafford in August of last year. But as he stood with a defiant Gallic shrug, even he seemed to see the funny side of the situation.

Unlike so many games between big clubs and big rivals in the Premier League, United-Arsenal games rarely disappoint. Maybe that’s because they involve two clubs who both always go out to play attractive, attacking football, while giving absolutely no quarter on the physical side of things. So on to the next chapter. But let’s keep the fast food in the stands, please chaps.

[alpben]

Rivalitas Man United vs Arsenal tampaknya tidak akan seketat musim lalu
terbukti Man United menang mudah kemarin melawan Arsenal
hhe

[Redsbusby]

Cuma ada 1 simbol rivalitas United dan Arsenal yang paling tenar : Keano vs Vieira!
Itu juga satu satunya simbol yang gw tunggu sampe detik ini muncul lg di liga inggris.. Keano Vieira bukan cuma simbol rivalitas 2 klub dgn manajer terlama di liga, tp jg simbol 'keangkuhan' liga inggris...

[R.amaly27]

goal terbaik GIGGS waktu tandang d arsenal
semifinal FA 99

paling ak inget
wowowowowow
:ui2:

[Redsbusby]

goal terbaik GIGGS waktu tandang d arsenal
semifinal FA 99

paling ak inget
wowowowowow
:ui2:

sebenernya ngga bisa juga dibilang 'tandang ke arsenal' karena laga dihelat di villapark bro.. bisa dibilang netral :) cmiiw

[fadilbedil]

sebenernya ngga bisa juga dibilang 'tandang ke arsenal' karena laga dihelat di villapark bro.. bisa dibilang netral :) cmiiw

gw baru tau laga dihelat di villapark kirain highbury soalnya tuh stadion kumuh percis highbury


pemain yg paling gw benci di arsenal

http://dailyfootballnews.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/martin-keown.jpg

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45712000/jpg/_45712586_keown2003.jpg

[der_emperor]

One of my favourite pictures of all time.

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/5766/giggsvieiraaq8.jpg

Giggsy said: Get up you soft c*nt :P

sayang klo skrg mungkin lawan arsenal udah gk kerasa bigmatch'nya, secara mereka sekarang semua cuma murid SSB, berbanding jauh bgt sama arsenal di taun 90 & awal 2000an, klo sekarang mereka mudah nyerah terlalu awal makanya sering dibantai kandang maupun tandang :))

[Rean]

gw baru tau laga dihelat di villapark kirain highbury soalnya tuh stadion kumuh percis highbury


pemain yg paling gw benci di arsenal

http://dailyfootballnews.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/martin-keown.jpg

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45712000/jpg/_45712586_keown2003.jpg


persis sama gw :)

One of my favourite pictures of all time.

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/5766/giggsvieiraaq8.jpg

Giggsy said: Get up you soft c*nt :P

sayang klo skrg mungkin lawan arsenal udah gk kerasa bigmatch'nya, secara mereka sekarang semua cuma murid SSB, berbanding jauh bgt sama arsenal di taun 90 & awal 2000an, klo sekarang mereka mudah nyerah terlalu awal makanya sering dibantai kandang maupun tandang :))

hahaha... kata giggs... "ni org kenapaaaaa lagi... :nohope:"

[Redsbusby]

gw baru tau laga dihelat di villapark kirain highbury soalnya tuh stadion kumuh percis highbury

Dari Tahun segitu emang laga digelar di tempat netral bro :)
Ada 3 venue utama : Villapark, Old Trafford, dan Hillsborough.. sejak 2008 baru fa sepakat klo semifinal digelar di wembley semua dgn alasan 'finansial' :hammer:

[R.amaly27]

sebenernya ngga bisa juga dibilang 'tandang ke arsenal' karena laga dihelat di villapark bro.. bisa dibilang netral :) cmiiw

ogtu ya,.hihihi salah lagi
ingetnya pake baju away yg putih jadi taunya tandang
tapi giggs emang top,.arsenal takluk 1-2 deh~:>

[tovanokristan]

gw baru tau laga dihelat di villapark kirain highbury soalnya tuh stadion kumuh percis highbury


pemain yg paling gw benci di arsenal

http://dailyfootballnews.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/martin-keown.jpg

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45712000/jpg/_45712586_keown2003.jpg


sama bro..
ini pemain lumayan nyolotin setelah final whistle, minta ditonjok..

One of my favourite pictures of all time.

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/5766/giggsvieiraaq8.jpg

Giggsy said: Get up you soft c*nt :P

mungkin kalo kejadian ini diluar lapangan udah di injek-injek Giggs kayaknya :siul:

[Redsbusby]

sama bro..
ini pemain lumayan nyolotin setelah final whistle, minta ditonjok..



mungkin kalo kejadian ini diluar lapangan udah di injek-injek Giggs kayaknya :siul:

diinjek balik ama keano gan! >:)

[yoshiharu_kubo10]

diinjek balik ama keano gan! >:)

disini sudah hampir tuh...;))

GwcpFXOsrY8

[Redsbusby]

disini sudah hampir tuh...;))


^^
hahah disitu pertama kali liat gaya shakehand nya neville, doi emang rada gimanaaa gt gaya jabat tangannya, agak menantang. Caroll juga nolak jabat tangan vieira jg kan di video diatas ;))

Nggak usah keano.. udah ada RVN yg nginjek Vieira, keano cuma kebagian nendang betisnya >:)

XpqxfqHVS3c

Mungkin sejarah arsenal ngga terlalu mentereng seperti liverpool, ngga sekaya dan seroyal city, tp ngga tau kenapa, sejak jamannya keano dan vieira, duel arsenal-united ini panasnya melebihi derby, melebihi laga kontra liverpool..

Sayang bett uda ngga ada figur 'keras' model 2 legenda EPL diatas...
Dobandingin vieira, lebih pengen nginjek si Keown X(

[Mahesa_Jenar]

disini sudah hampir tuh...;))



Hahahahahaha... si Vieira dah nyaris terkencing kencing di celana tuh dibentak sama Oom Keane. Mukanya udah melas banget..

"Every week you, pretend to be a nice guy...!! I'll see you out there...!!"

Dan puas banget di akhir pertandingan, di Highbury kita injak injak mereka setelah mereka unggul duluan...
Momen paling indah sepanjang sejarah rivalitas United Arsenal...!!

[demhyt]

jadi inget perang dulu, tiap lawan arsenal mesti tegang...mereka harus diakui waktu ada henry, vieira ciamik bener mainnya sayang sekali sekarang tidak seperti dulu, btw meskipun sering terlibat adu mulut tapi SAF sangat sportif dan membela Wenger ketika rumor wenger dipecat...persaingan sehat yg menyenangkan :D

[Redsbusby]

Hahahahahaha... si Vieira dah nyaris terkencing kencing di celana tuh dibentak sama Oom Keane. Mukanya udah melas banget..

"Every week you, pretend to be a nice guy...!! I'll see you out there...!!"

Dan puas banget di akhir pertandingan, di Highbury kita injak injak mereka setelah mereka unggul duluan...
Momen paling indah sepanjang sejarah rivalitas United Arsenal...!!

Hahahaha.. like this! Ini ucapan yg paling gw inget dr kejadian di lorong..
Momen lebih bikin merinding pas ronaldo 2 kali nunjukin ekspresi 'SHUT THE F*** UP'... meski harus dilakuin jg dr dalem gawang :))

Momen momen priceless!

[tovanokristan]

diinjek balik ama keano gan! >:)

wew, baru nyadar hahaha
maksut ane Giggs yang nginjek-injek si Vieira di luar lapangan bukan kebalikannya oom Agung hehehe

[demhyt]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=s3bWrF_GkbQ#!

merinding + terharu nih nonton video...hikksss

[aldiansyah]

demhyt
kok videonya ngga keluar ya bro?

[demhyt]

demhyt
kok videonya ngga keluar ya bro?

bentar bro, aku kasih direct link aja ya...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=s3bWrF_GkbQ#!

[Sheyro_07Seven]

bentar bro, aku kasih direct link aja ya...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=s3bWrF_GkbQ#!

oalah video semifinal replay FA Cup 99 toh brow,... :thumbup:

sayang terjadi baku hantam dini,..andai final ntu,...tambah sadis,.tragis,.& bisa meringis Arsenal,.....:champ:

[demhyt]

oalah video semifinal replay FA Cup 99 toh brow,... :thumbup:

sayang terjadi baku hantam dini,..andai final ntu,...tambah sadis,.tragis,.& bisa meringis Arsenal,.....:champ:

perjalanan treble yg dramatis di FA cup...hufth, tahun ganti jantung itu..wkwkwk

[Sheyro_07Seven]

perjalanan treble yg dramatis di FA cup...hufth, tahun ganti jantung itu..wkwkwk

ha,.ha,...yg pnting jantungNya gak ketinggalan pas nonton Brow,.....ha,.ha,..=))

[Sheyro_07Seven]

sayang Peperangan Vs Arsenal kini dah mulai pudar,.... :(

ane msh inget & gak rela saat juara EPL hrs direbutNya 1997/1998,.2001/2002 & 2003/2004,.~X(

Pa lagi final FA Cup 2005,.....saat Ginger prince ga2l eksekusi terakhir di adu penalty,...:((

kpan yach bisa kya dulu lagi rivalitas ini sperti SAF Vs AW,.Peter Vs Seaman,.Cantona vs Wright & Keano Vs Viera,...:D

[demhyt]

sayang Peperangan Vs Arsenal kini dah mulai pudar,.... :(

ane msh inget & gak rela saat juara EPL hrs direbutNya 1997/1998,.2001/2002 & 2003/2004,.~X(

Pa lagi final FA Cup 2005,.....saat Ginger prince ga2l eksekusi terakhir di adu penalty,...:((

kpan yach bisa kya dulu lagi rivalitas ini sperti SAF Vs AW,.Peter Vs Seaman,.Cantona vs Wright & Keano Vs Viera,...:D

hahaha udah kagak ada lagi sekarang, entah nunggu berapa tahun lagi..sekarang kebanyakan raih prestasi dengan sekantung duit :p

arsenal akhir 90an dan awal 2000an bener2 tim yg solid dan sangat susah dikalahkan...rivalitasnya dengan united ketika itu menurutku sih ndak ada duanya dibanding rivalitas kedua tim manapun di dunia...benar2 sarat emosi, permainan tingkat tinggi...sampai pada supporternya juga tak ada abisnya dukung tim kesayangan masing2...

[Sheyro_07Seven]

hahaha udah kagak ada lagi sekarang, entah nunggu berapa tahun lagi..sekarang kebanyakan raih prestasi dengan sekantung duit :p

arsenal akhir 90an dan awal 2000an bener2 tim yg solid dan sangat susah dikalahkan...rivalitasnya dengan united ketika itu menurutku sih ndak ada duanya dibanding rivalitas kedua tim manapun di dunia...benar2 sarat emosi, permainan tingkat tinggi...sampai pada supporternya juga tak ada abisnya dukung tim kesayangan masing2...

betul brow,..... suporter pada menghina 1 sama lainNya,..... kaya video di thread sebelah ntu keren,.....adu chant suporter kita Vs Arsenal,....:serbu:

[demhyt]

betul brow,..... suporter pada menghina 1 sama lainNya,..... kaya video di thread sebelah ntu keren,.....adu chant suporter kita Vs Arsenal,....:serbu:

wkwkwkwk, makanya itu waktu kemaren menang 8-2 tuh opa SAF sangat terkejut...aku sekarang juga liat lawan arsenal kurang greget gmn gitu beda banget waktu jaman lini belakang mereka masih ada keown, dixon terus di tengah ada vieira, overmars sama bergkamp di depan...terus ada pires,henry selanjutnya..gila perang lawan class of 92 waktu usia emas mereka...

[Sheyro_07Seven]

yups,....sadis dulu ntu pemain belakangy Arsenal era itu,....pa lagi ada winterburn,..trus kala itu platt,...wright,..parlour,.:-SS

pa lagi klo Gary Neville kena Overmars dah gocekanNya,....bikin dag-dig-dug jantung copot jga brow,...he,.he,.. :P

tp walaupun mereka sadis mainNya sama kita,....kita bisa membuat Arsenal MERINGIS akhirNya,...ha,.ha,.ha,...:beer:

[demhyt]

yups,....sadis dulu ntu pemain belakangy Arsenal era itu,....pa lagi ada winterburn,..trus kala itu platt,...wright,..parlour,.:-SS

pa lagi klo Gary Neville kena Overmars dah gocekanNya,....bikin dag-dig-dug jantung copot jga brow,...he,.he,.. :P

tp walaupun mereka sadis mainNya sama kita,....kita bisa membuat Arsenal MERINGIS akhirNya,...ha,.ha,.ha,...:beer:

yaa mungkin disana juga wenger "salah perhitungan"...terlalu gambling pemaen muda akhirnya...:D

[Redsbusby]

Uda waktunya di locked ini thread karena masalah persaingan gak segarang dulu :hammer:
Panasnya era keano-vieira di epl udah diganti era vida-balotelli >:)

[Sheyro_07Seven]

Uda waktunya di locked ini thread karena masalah persaingan gak segarang dulu :hammer:
Panasnya era keano-vieira di epl udah diganti era vida-balotelli >:)

blom gaN,...musim msh pnjg neh,....Arsenal sprtNy siap bangkit dah ntuk ciptakan suasana persaingan sprt dlu lg vs kita,......:-bd

[Ridwanox]

yang di tunggu kalau MU ketemu arsenal ya

ketika kedua kapten berantem :P

[Redsbusby]

Dan mereka pun akhirnya saling menebar senyuman :D
TV Role???

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/11/03/article-2056891-0EA490D200000578-914_468x286.jpg

[irfi_1]

[QUOTE=der_emperor;337091]One of my favourite pictures of all time.

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/5766/giggsvieiraaq8.jpg

Giggsy said: Get up you soft c*nt :P
:thumbup: