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Supernan

20-08-2009, 08:19 PM

Berdasarkan berita dari Daily mail dibwh ini :

Five strikers who could solve Manchester United's Premier League goalscoring crisis
Manchester United have scored just once in two Premier League games this season and the loss of Cristiano Ronaldo and Carlos Tevez is beginning to show

By Mark Ogden
Published: 11:36AM BST 20 Aug 2009

Michael Owen and Dimitar Berbatov are struggling to find form, leaving Wayne Rooney to shoulder the burden of expectancy in front of goal.

But having banked £80 million for Ronaldo, and with the £25m set aside for Tevez still in United's bank account, Sir Alex Ferguson has the funds in place to make a late move into the transfer market.

So who can he get and how much will they cost?

Sergio Aguero, £50m:
Prolific Argentine has plenty of pace and his signing would be a major coup, but Atletico Madrid will put up a fight to keep him. But after their experiences with Gabriel Heinze and Carlos Tevez, do United want another Argentine? Especially one who is dating Diego Maradona's daughter.

After playing in the 3-2 defeat of Panathinaikos in Atletico's Champions League qualifier Aguero reiterated his desire to remain at the Vicente Calderón.

Jermain Defoe, £25m:
Tottenham Hotspur forward has scored five goals in a week for club and country. He would bring pace and an eye for goal, but Harry Redknapp would be loath to lose him. United have been interested in Defoe before, however, and money talks.

David Villa, £45m:
Valencia have so far managed to hold onto their prize asset, but the Spain international is arguably the best available option for United. However, Villa has shown little interest in moving to the Premier League and Ferguson will not want another player who only dreams of Real Madrid.

Luca Toni, £8m:
Italian finished as Bayern Munich's top goalscorer in his two seasons in the Bundesliga and would offer a strong physical presence upfront. But at 32, he hardly rates as one for the future.

Ruud van Nistelrooy, £1.5m:
If the clock is ticking towards midnight on transfer deadline and Ferguson is desperately searching for a proven goalscorer, then Real Madrid's Van Nistelrooy is available. Highly unlikely, but then nobody expected him to sign Owen.

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Nama2 yg udah ga asing lg ya guys??!! apa lg RVN, tapi apakah kita UNITED perlu nambah pemain striker lg??!!

Secara kita udah punya 5 striker skrg : Rooney,Owen,Berbatov,Macheda,Welbeck.

2 pemain youngster, 1 pemain jadu (owen) hehehehehe apalg sepeninggal CR7 UNITED tetep dalam tekanan.. "Apakah bisa mereka tanpa CR7 n Tevez??"

Let's Go guys share ur imagine:hammer::hammer:

Shorrty

20-08-2009, 08:31 PM

Still expecting agurerro or villa...

damn we're under crisis...:amazed:

harylicious

20-08-2009, 08:34 PM

gw msh ragu sm owen bro...mdh2n kdepan owen bisa nunjukin bhwa sir alex ga salah rekrut

tumpal_oneunited

20-08-2009, 09:13 PM

Sampe kapan yah kita ngeliat Owen dan Berba bisa ngegolin..??
Untuk Owen seh, gw ga begitu banyak nuntut, secara MU dpt Owen gratis dan Owen juga ga banyak cingcong kalo dicadangin..
Trus..gmn dengan Berba..??
Sejak awal pembelian Berba yg cukup mahal itu, gw memiliki pengharapan yang besar kpd Berba...
Gw sangat dan sangat berharap kalo Berbatov itu bisa ngegantiin peran RVN sbg Bomber penghasil banyak gol bwt MU..
Tapi..harapan tinggal harapan untuk musim lalu...
Golnya kalah banyak dari CR7 dan Rooney di BPL..

Dan untuk musim ini gw masih berharap Berbatov bisa jadi Sumber Gol bwt MU..
So,,kalo ditanya..MU perlu lg ga beli striker..??
Ada dua jawaban bagi gw:
1, Ga perlu,,karena gw menginginkan Berba jd solver utk goal scoringnya MU
2. Perlu,,karena MU mengikuti kompetisi yg cukup banyak,,salah satunya UCL yang kita tau saat ini klub2 Eropa udah banyak yg berbenah..

Yah...I Love You Pull Berbatov..!! :muscarf:
I BELIEVE..!!

marsel david

20-08-2009, 09:31 PM

sebenernya berbatov udah cukup bagus untuk sekarang...
malah jauh lebih bagus dari musim kemaren...

untuk owen... gw yakin beberapa waktu lagi owen akan menemukan ketaamannya hanya harus sedikit bersabar untuk nuggu owen kembali ke performanya....
tapi.. United bisa dbilang dalam keadaan darurat, ga ada waktu untuk nunggu Owen kembali menjadi striker yang luar biasa seperti dulu...

Rooney juga sekarang udah berperan sangat central di United

tapi masih ada sesutau yang kurang semenjak peninggalan ronaldo...

mungkin datangnya Aguero bisa jadi jawaban...

tapi untuk saat ini udah banyak striker di United...
dan ada satu pertimbangan khusus kalo menurut gw..

kalo aguero datang dan mungkin bisa membawa perubahan luar biasa untuk united...
akan ada satu striker yang bisa dibilang terbuang....
dan kalo kata gw asti Owen....
Owen bakal sering jad cadangan masalahnya setau gw pemegang No 7 ga pernah ada yang jadi cadangan... untuk owen dibilang jadi super sub juga ngga

jadi untuk striker lebih baik dmaksimalkan duet Berba Rooney...

nah untuk kalo ada pembelian lagi untuk memecahkan masalah adalah pembelian DM yang bertugas menjaga aliran bola dan dapt mengalirkan dari belakang ke depan dengan baik..

saya kira itu masalah united saat ini... aliran bola ke depan kurang baik.. jadi striker juga sulit untuk mencetak goal...

jadi solusinya belilah DM yang bagus....

flusteven

20-08-2009, 10:53 PM

kalo menurut gw c permasalahan bukan dr striker,,,,
striker spt owen yang uda berpengalaman seharus nya tak sulit membuat gol,,,
sepenglihatan saia berba cara bermain nya mirip RVN,,,
dan mengapa berba susah buat gol,,

spt nya masala tsb brasal dari lini tengah,
ampe saat ini belum ada yg bisa ganti peran spt scholes,keane dan giggs,,,
flash back ke jaman saat RVN masi bermain,dia mendapat sodoran bola dari berbagai sisi,,, dari sisi kiri/kanan giggs bs memberi umpan,,,
dr tgh,sodoran scholes/keane maknyus untuk para striker,,
mreka pun tak segan" bila ada kesempatan langsung maju untuk membuat gol,,,
tp giggs/scholes pun skr "sudah berumur",akurasi dan stamina pun sudah menurun,,

para youngster spt anderson,fletcher,carrick sbenarnya dpt mengisi peran keane/scholes,
tapi melihat pertandingan United umpan" mreka kurang maknyus,terkadang "grogian" saat memegang bola,,,
dari posisi winger valencia dan nani bisa jd kolaborasi yang baik,
tapi di lihat dr beberapa pertandingan umpan" nya pun belum maksimal bagi para striker,,,

apa "mesin" para pemaen blum panas,,,
dilihat dari komposisi striker seharus nya sudah cukup solid,,,
saia hanya menyampaikan pendapat,,,
sepertinya saia setubuh,, eh,, setuju dgn bro david,,, :malu:
blilah DM yang bagus,,, biar aliran bola nya lancar,ga terendat",,, :peace:

and1

20-08-2009, 11:20 PM

kalo menurut gw c permasalahan bukan dr striker,,,,
striker spt owen yang uda berpengalaman seharus nya tak sulit membuat gol,,,
sepenglihatan saia berba cara bermain nya mirip RVN,,,
dan mengapa berba susah buat gol,,

kalo menurut gw nistelrooy & berba gaya maennya beda jauh
berba sering turun ke tengah, mengkreasikan peluang kpd rekan setim
sedangkan nistelrooy, setiap pemaen MU mengirim bola ke kotak penalti, nistelrooy selalu ada disana, dia jarang turun ke tengah, jarang menkreasi peluang utk rekan setim, dia bener2 finisher kita, semua serangan hampir selalu berakhir di nistelrooy

cr7lover

21-08-2009, 01:08 AM

apparently, today's article says Aguero is happy to stay at Atletico
Villa wants to stay in Spain
tapi gw rasa bukan striker yg di butuhkan United....tapi winger & DM!

fredrian.seven

21-08-2009, 08:32 AM

Menurutku MU bener-bener butuh striker lagi yang bener-bener finisher ulung setipe RVN dulu. Siapapun boleh asal harganya sesuai dengan kualitasnya (jangan sampe seperti si nomor 9 yang bener-bener akan jadi flop). Rooney ntar jadi second striker di belakang striker utama...

Buat berba, mungkin musti ganti posisi jadi AM atau CM coz nggak berhasil-berhasil bikin gol. mungkin dengan kemampuannya membagi bola akan jadi lebih berguna klo dia jadi AM,he...

Oncy

21-08-2009, 10:12 AM

Selama si BERAKtov striker 30jt itu ga mulai nyetak goal maka United akan kelimpungan!!!
United memainkan permainan serangan targetman skrg, oleh karenya Nani dan Valencia merupakan opsi utama di winger utk selalu memberikan umpan ke kot6ak penalty, nah stlh kepergian RVN hingga kini United tidak memiliki striker targetman yg bagus.... Berba yg menjadi harapan tau sendiri seperti apa, Rooney mash blm konsisten dan msh perlu adaptasi setelah kemarin memerankan posisi lain, Owen??? hmmmmm katrolah masa keemasannya sdh habis menurut gw utk main aja takut cederanya kambuh, sdgkan Macheda msh muda jam terbang!!!

Bg gw ini semua dr arogansi SAF... Yakin pembelian kemarin cukup? Berba? Msh mau membuktikan bahwa pembeliannya ga salah? Owen? Msh mau berjudi dan berharap efeknya sama seperti Larsson dl? Valencia? hhmmm sorry ya meski bgs 2 musim di epl tp ga mengesankan bgt, meski punya kualitas utk besar but not this season I think, terakhir Obertan ckckck, di liga utama Perancis aja bs dihitung mainnya jd terlalu dinilah utk mengharapkan pemuda ini....

Oom Panda

21-08-2009, 10:13 AM

gpp... dapet RVN lagi gw mah.. masih bisa jadi super sub.... but, tbh, we dont need another striker... WE NEED A MIDFIELDER... eh. no.. no.. NOT 1, but 2!!!

Oncy

21-08-2009, 10:25 AM

Gw request David Silva!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

finza_13

21-08-2009, 10:35 AM

striker ga perlu lah...Berba udah mulai menunjukkan perkembangan ga males2an kayak dulu,tinggal nunggu Owen aja niy...:confusing:

menurutku justru kurang di tengah....sekali DM tetep DM....:hammer:
winger jg boleh siy..kayak Sneijder tuh udah ga betah kayaknya....mungkin silva jg boleh digoda...:siul:

cr7lover

22-08-2009, 12:39 AM

maybe SAF mikir he can create another CR out of his current squad? very unlikely kalo gw bilang....banyak pemaen bagus tapi seorang pemaen spt CR doesnt come too often...but good luck SAF, we'll see!!

juliand_fergie

22-08-2009, 05:24 AM

YES, WE CAN!!!

senada ama tmn2 di atas n beberapa postingan yg lalu, we need another midfielder..
could be AM.. could be DM... but both of them must have the skill to mastermind the game..
at least, orang ini musti bisa ngatur pola serangan United dan tau kpn saatnya memberi umpan2 ke pemain depan. klo udh nemu pemain kaya gini, besar kemungkinan keran gol bakal meluap dari striker2 United

pilihannya bisa si silva atw sneijder niih.. :army:

Supernan

22-08-2009, 08:54 AM

Mantap Opininya Guys....keren....:happy:

Ada tambahan dr Opa Fergie : CONFIDENT IS A KEY

Manchester United frontline must stop misfiring, says Sir Alex Ferguson
The message from Sir Alex Ferguson was emphatic: Manchester United would be drawing on their innate resilience to jump-start their season in the wake of a laboured win over Birmingham City and defeat to Burnley.

Ferguson also declared he was "confident'' his attackers would "step up to the mark''.

The issue of goal flow predates this season but the departure of Cristiano Ronaldo, who struck 18 times in the Premier League last term, has inevitably intensified scrutiny of where the champions will find their goals. In achieving a +44 goal difference last season, the champions were heavily reliant on an exceptional defence.

United netted 68 goals from 38 games, an average of 1.78, well below their League average of 1.95 (1,289 goals from 660 games). United conceded a miserly 24 goals at an average of 0.63 per game, notably better than their overall League average of 0.85 (563 goals conceded in 660 League games).

"The ratio of goals last season was our poorest for 15 years in terms of goal difference,'' said Ferguson, speaking before training at Carrington on Friday. "That was an issue last year, and it will be an issue this year unless we step up to the mark, which I am confident we will do.''

Ronaldo undoubtedly made a difference in tight games, particularly against opponents with massed defences, but Edwin van der Sar, Rio Ferdinand, Nemanja Vidic and Patrice Evra formed a resilient backline. United need someone who can turn the screw on opponents, someone to emulate Ronaldo's rapier-like savaging of defences, but also a continuation of a Scrooge-like rearguard. Vidic's return against Wigan today is well-timed, although the bulletin on Ferdinand's lengthening absence was disappointing.

For all the issues at United, particularly in the attacking third, a concern highlighted during Wednesday's loss at Turf Moor, Ferguson refuses to spend. "I will not be buying anyone,'' insisted United's manager. "The issue now, and always is at this club, is when you have a defeat what do you do about it?

"Maybe it was always going to be Burnley's night: 35 years out of the league, their fans were fantastic, it was the biggest night of their life.

"Their players ran their socks off. Nobody is going to say Robbie Blake is a world-class player but it was a world-class finish. But with the opportunities we had we really should have won comfortably. Our decision-making in the last third of the field wasn't our best.''

That should worry Ferguson. In Wayne Rooney, Dimitar Berbatov and Michael Owen, United's manager can call on three of the best decision-makers around, yet only Rooney is delivering and even he seemed to fume with frustration at Turf Moor. His lunge at Tyrone Mears was labelled "a nothing challenge'' by Ferguson but it could have seen the striker sent off.

Rooney's fuse tends to burn when the game is going away from United or he feels aggrieved at an injustice. Maybe he feels the huge responsibility on him in the post-Ronaldo world. Rooney certainly needs his fellow strikers to start contributing.

Many supporters are concerned by Berbatov's approach. Not Ferguson. "He has a languid style,'' said Ferguson. "Maybe that's the thing against him, his style of play, rather than his actual effect on the game. I'm particularly happy with that. He is a very, very good player. Dimitar would like to score a goal; he is no different from Michael or Wayne.

"Michael could do with a goal. He had two chances on Wednesday and should have scored both of them. He knows that. His movement and positional play in the last third is very, very good. We are just waiting on that goal that will set him off. I am sure about that. Forget the England thing at the moment. If he does well with us, then England will be there for him.''

United have issues in all departments. Midfield lacks authority, a reality seen in Michael Carrick's weak penalty at Burnley. United have other takers, such as Rooney, Anderson and Ryan Giggs, but Ferguson admitted he had not decided who will take the next penalty. When Ronaldo was around, there was no question.

The champions' threat from midfield will increase when Antonio Valencia begins running at opponents with the brio he did when United last visited Wigan. Valencia gave Ferguson's defence a torrid time, particularly early on. Valencia starts against his old team today with Ferguson hoping he turns Carrington form into match-day potency.

"We see the potential particularly in the training sessions,'' said Ferguson. "There's good stuff to work with there: he's quick, balanced, tough, a good crosser. A lot of players over the years come to the club and take to it like a duck to water. Some need time. He'll be all right.''

AGHA_mirip_cantona

22-08-2009, 09:39 AM

Problem United season ini..

kurang penyerang berkualitas..

kurang latihan Pinalti..

kurang Hoki..

baru 2 match..jangan sampai berlanjut

KkingP

25-08-2009, 04:45 PM

Kalo dibilang Confident adalah Key.. mungkin ini penyebab Fergie ngasih no kramat 7 ke Owen.. mental nih pemain duah hancur kali yah, di tolak capello, di sindir publik Inggris yg bilang masanya udah habis..

Gw sebenernya berharap banyak ke owen.. (gak tau kenapa).. karena mungkin gw melihat FERGIE berjudi cukup besar musim ini di dia.. bukna masalah nilai transfernya owen yg gratis.. tapi efek dari kehadiran Owen yang pasti membuat berbatov, striker "utama" kita satu lagi gak bisa memastikan tempat reguler di tim utama.. ini baru namanya judi, karena Berba di beli 30 Jt pound masak cuma buat main bergantian ama Owen yg dibeli free transfer (rekor cederanya ajib pulak).. hehhe

ROONEY mudah2an keran golnya kencenggggg.. sabtu besok lawn Arsenal kita bisa lihat.. permainan united sesungguhnya...

Oom Panda

25-08-2009, 05:13 PM

Ucup Carrick

27-08-2009, 12:33 AM

Guys..:army:
hayo share pendapat anda..
siapa nih duet striker yang kira-kira paling maknyus musim ini di United...

Rooney-Berba
Rooney-Owen
Berba-Owen

atau lainnya sebutkan...beserta alasannya!!

kalo gua pribadi
Rooney-Berba!!
Satu suka ngejar bola satu suka keeping bola dan buka ruang..kombinasi bagus asal sokongan gelandang juga oke...

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2983/yahaaoz1.gif

K3nny_11

27-08-2009, 12:50 AM

Roo-Berba pastiiii donkkk... absolutely no contest........ mungkin yang lebih susah tuh perbincangan mengenai duet midfield United, dijamin lebih variatif hasilny, hehe........ :happy:

neoradtz

27-08-2009, 02:17 AM

Wah sebenernya sih yang gw suka duet Cole-Yorke.. Gila :D uda kaya ade kaka, uda saling percaya ampe ga perlu liat2an jg udah sama2 tau pasangan nya mau ngapain (lebay mode: ON) :)

Tapi kalo yang sekarang sih keliatannya masi Rooney-Berba :D... Yang satu kreativitas tinggi, (bringing the magic) yang satu lagi tendangannya kaya meriam (executor).. :D

Moga2 owen ga ketinggalan deh :).. Berjuang owen!!! :D

hendiplast

27-08-2009, 06:38 AM

Yg pasti Rooney sudah pasti mendapatkan 1 tempat
tinggal mencari tandem buat dia
menurutku Berbatov yg ideal buat jadi duet Rooney
seperti nya dia ingin membuktikan diri musim ini dgn bermain habis2an
Owen & Macheda bs menjadi alternatif jika Berbatov sudah mentok :hammer:

Oom Panda

27-08-2009, 07:52 AM

gw sih melihat RooBerba sebagai duet paling pas untuk musim ini... Gw juga melihat Owen lebih baik coming off from the bench.. lebih efektif... ^^

finza_13

27-08-2009, 09:47 AM

Roo - Berba...

jelas mereka udah teruji musim kemarin dari pada Roo - Owen atau Owen _ berba...

lagian kayaknya Owen lebih baik sebagai pemain pengganti..yg bisa jd senjata cadangan klo United lg krisis gol :siul:

fredrian.seven

27-08-2009, 10:40 AM

Setelah melihat pertandingan MU akhir pekan kemaren rasanya duet terbaik adalah Rooney Berba... Salah satunya adalah kecil kemungkinan Owen bakalan maen tiap pekan, jadi cocok ndak cocok Rooney dan Berba musti membiasakan diri maen bareng. Tapi terlepas dari faktor Owen itu, duet Rooney dan Berba lumayan padu saat maen lawan Wigan...

zudomiriku

27-08-2009, 11:02 AM

siapapun duetnya, yg penting jatah 1 penyerang kudu musti milik Rooney
mau duet ama Berba ato Owen gw rasa gak masalah buat Rooney

GL zone

27-08-2009, 12:46 PM

hmm...menurut gw sih blm ketauan siapa duet terbaik united saat ini
mungkin kalo udah masuk paruh musim sih udah bisa ketauan

tapi kalo di liat sekarang rooney-berba selalu jadi pilihan utama sir alex
di tambah owen yg jadi supersub...

marsel david

27-08-2009, 12:58 PM

Satu tempat Udah pasti milik Roo..
dan untuk tandem terbaik roo gw rasa Berba cocok banget tuh...

lagi pula udah cukup teruji duet Roo - Berba ini...
dan juga duet Roo - Berba gw rasa Duet Striker yang pas...
dua2 nya memiliki karakteristik yang berbeda yang dapat saling mendukung performa satu sama lain..

untuk alternatifnya Owen - Berba kayanya bagus juga tuh ya untuk jaga2 biar Roo ga kecapean

tapi ga nutup kemungkinan juga sih kalo ntar duet striker terbaik jadi Roo - Owen kalo performa Owen mengkat dengan drastis....

tapi untuk saat ini ya yang terbaik Roo - Berba

ecly_watchaa

27-08-2009, 01:08 PM

dah ngevote buat Wazza v Berba...

alasannya mayan kuat,liat aja game terakhir dan game2 kedepan ntar....:mudance:

Red Army

27-08-2009, 04:26 PM

Rooney & Berbatov...
Berbatov lebih di depan krn emng lebih lincah & tinggi daripada Rooney, sementara Rooney membuka ruang & memberi assist ke Berba yg dg sekali sontek gol !!

ario adi nugroho

27-08-2009, 04:55 PM

rooney si dah pasti akan mnjadi tumpun lini depan,,pasti!!
tandem nya mungkin berba,,
tapi knp ya..gw ngrasa si berba itu malez bergerak,,pdhal dy mpunyai skill yg sama ky ibra,,tp dy malez bergerak atau lari,,
itu yg kadang2 bkin gw malez ngliat berba,,
kita lihat aja,,berba atau mungkin malah owen yg mampu mnjadi tumpuan lini depan
hihihi

pweechevalier

27-08-2009, 06:14 PM

Mnurut pemantauan, pengamatan, serta pertimbangan beberapa game terakhir...
Juga dari skill dan style para striker United...
Maka gw memilih WR10 + DB9 menjadi duet striker terbaik musim ini... :thumbup:
Tapi tetep MO7 juga gak jelek loh... :peace:

wisnu cimol

erin

27-08-2009, 11:02 PM

kalo gw..
pilih rooney ma berba..
hihihihi...
tp duet striker MU yg lainx juga gk bisa diremehin..

lbh milih duet rooney-berba soalx mreka brdua udh mulai padu..
si berba juga udh mulai bangkit musim ini..
apalg rooney...bener2 memanfaatkan pergix si ronaldo..
gw berharap..
gk hanya duet rooney-berba yg padu..
tp smua striker2 MU bisa padu maenx..
Glory..Glory..ManUnited..

handys

27-08-2009, 11:29 PM

gw milih roo ama owen
kombinasi dahsyat
walaupun merseyside tapi owen mantab tuh

tumpal_oneunited

27-08-2009, 11:50 PM

Gw pilih Rooney-Berbatov..
Rooney-Berbatov udh semakin padu, terlihat dari pertandingan minggu kmrn vs wigan..
Duet ini bakal menghasilkan banyak gol.. :thumbup:

Untuk Owen, gw berharap bisa jadi SuperSub kayak Ole...

theater of dream

31-08-2009, 02:36 AM

rooney kan ok.....

theater of dream

31-08-2009, 06:09 PM

Owen+rooney juga oke........sama2 cepat dan good finishing..

rondwisan

08-09-2009, 12:21 PM

07/09/2009 07:14 - ManUtd.com, Ben Hibbs
Reds strikers excite Cole

http://picsrv.manutd.com/?fif=/manu/img_10_29057_996.jpg&obj=iip,1.0&wid=160&hei=120&rgn=0,0,0,0&cvt=jpeg

Ex-Red Andrew Cole says United's strike trio of Wayne Rooney, Dimitar Berbatov and Michael Owen will bag plenty of goals this season.

Speaking at MUTV's Wednesday Night at the Red Cafe programme, Cole, now a regular visitor to Old Trafford as a fan, said: "Rooney has started the season really well. He's ready to step into Ronaldo's shoes. His attitude is 'I'm top, and I'm going to prove it'. He's the man to get 25-30 goals this season."

Cole is well placed to judge the abilities of United's front men, having scored 121 goals in 275 appearances for United. And it's not just Rooney he's impressed with. "It's not easy coming to United in your first season," he adds. "The spotlight is on you straight away and everyone expected Berbatov to get 30 goals last year.

"I don't think he's that type of player, but he brings something different to the team. He's so elegant. Then there's Michael Owen. There aren't many natural finishers around. Sir Alex told me that if he keeps Owen fit he'll get goals."

rondwisan

15-09-2009, 08:52 AM

meskipun ada benernya ..., but provokatif juga nih the SUN
smoga Owen bisa sabar 'n gak frustasi ....
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Get used to the bench, Owen
TheSUN

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00888/owen_280x390_888757a.jpg

MICHAEL OWEN must get used to life on Manchester United's bench.

Manager Alex Ferguson insists Dimitar Berbatov is first choice in attack alongside Wayne Rooney.

He said: "Owen will play, just maybe not early in the season. We are trying to get a blend of Berbatov and Rooney - so Owen doesn't come in to the equation.

"I explained to Owen why he has not been involved. The season has not really started. Because of the internationals we're not really playing Saturday and Wednesday."

Owen is desperate to impress boss Fabio Capello to win back his England place. But he has started just one United match since joining for free this summer.

ferly_Liemz

15-09-2009, 11:26 AM

meskipun ada benernya ..., but provokatif juga nih the SUN
smoga Owen bisa sabar 'n gak frustasi ....
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dari dulu seh jarang ada pemain yg br di beli united yg langsung jd starter atau di mainin.
apalagi kita masih dalam tahap membentuk tim baru..dan seperti biasanya media di inggris itu begitu pintar memanipulasi berita..

Red Devils 07

15-09-2009, 11:41 AM

tuk sementara... pilihan yang tepat buat lini depan United masih Rooney dan Berba...
Rooney dengan agresifitas nya dan speed nya... sedangkan Berba dengan keeping ball dan passing2 nya yang bagus... dan Owen lebih menjadi supersub seperti yang dilakukan Ole dulu... IMHO... :D

smile_boy

15-09-2009, 12:38 PM

Roney - Owen...
Siep...........:siul::siul:
:army:

Red Army

15-09-2009, 02:44 PM

yg jd ujung tombak Berba tp kok malah Rooney yg banyak cetak gol ya ??

red_girl_mia

15-09-2009, 03:11 PM

Roo-Owen patut dicoba...kali ajamakin lama makin klop..:happy::army::army:

red_girl_mia

15-09-2009, 03:13 PM

dari dulu seh jarang ada pemain yg br di beli united yg langsung jd starter atau di mainin.
apalagi kita masih dalam tahap membentuk tim baru..dan seperti biasanya media di inggris itu begitu pintar memanipulasi berita..

bener bgt,,,bahkan sampe sekarang Berba aja kadang di bench,,,:berbusa::berbusa:
sabar ya Owen...i know u can do...:happy::happy:

theater of dream

16-09-2009, 12:22 PM

yg jd ujung tombak Berba tp kok malah Rooney yg banyak cetak gol ya ??
Sederhana aja kok, Berba lebih banyak membuka ruang gerak bagi Rooney
:peace:

red_girl_mia

16-09-2009, 12:52 PM

Sederhana aja kok, Berba lebih banyak membuka ruang gerak bagi Rooney
:peace:

berarti salah posisi donk brader,,:army::army:mending Berba di belakang Roo,,,biar sesuai posisi ama hasil:peace::peace::peace:

ferly_Liemz

16-09-2009, 01:59 PM

berarti salah posisi donk brader,,:army::army:mending Berba di belakang Roo,,,biar sesuai posisi ama hasil:peace::peace::peace:

kl lebih jelas mungkin fungsi berba itu seperi si crouch kali yak..
dia sebagai "tiang" yang memantulkan bola buat rooney cetak gol gt...:army::army:

dhonni

16-09-2009, 05:25 PM

kl lebih jelas mungkin fungsi berba itu seperi si crouch kali yak..
dia sebagai "tiang" yang memantulkan bola buat rooney cetak gol gt...:army::army:

tapi berba tu lebih pemalas dari crouch,tp kelebihannya
kalo dia udah bawa bola susah direbut lawan

theater of dream

17-09-2009, 11:10 AM

berarti salah posisi donk brader,,:army::army:mending Berba di belakang Roo,,,biar sesuai posisi ama hasil:peace::peace::peace:
Udah pas tuh, yang paling depan kan bukan berarti bisa cetak gol, minimal bisa kasih umpan tarik, atau pantulin bola ke belakang:peace:

theater of dream

17-09-2009, 11:46 AM

tapi berba tu lebih pemalas dari crouch,tp kelebihannya
kalo dia udah bawa bola susah direbut lawan
Udah rajin sekarang bro...

and1

17-09-2009, 12:20 PM

rooney-berbatov
keduanya saling melengkapi, rooney dg mobilitasnya yg tinggi & berbatov dg skill individualnya dlm membuka ruang ato memberi umpan2

owen sbg supersub

Shorrty

17-09-2009, 08:58 PM

gw pilih Rooney - Owen
asal passing kaki ke kaki nya lancar antara 2 orang itu.. bisa hancur pertahanan lawan..
yg satu penerobos, yg satu finisher.. dua2nya bisa berperan seperti itu..
just my opinion guys...:peace:

theater of dream

19-09-2009, 01:11 PM

Ucup Carrick

20-09-2009, 03:53 AM

kemaren tak ada yang betul pencetak gol pertama United di UCL..

awak mo ngajak nebak lagi nih..
yang buka calak ngejebol gawang city siapa nih kira2..?
aku tetaplah jagoin Wayne Rooney!!

Supernan

25-09-2009, 08:02 AM

Up up lagi ah.

So far Rooney Yang paling on fire total 7 goal udh doi cetak (6 di BPL + 1 di CS)

Fergie masi berat ke Berbatov buat dampingin Rooney di depan.

Sayang kita kebobolan terlalu mudah (banyak) so far musim ini, Ayo Lads focus n back on track dalam defense terutama. :happy:

rondwisan

05-10-2009, 09:31 AM

29/09/2009 09:20, Ben Hibbs & Mike Shaw
Reds' striking potential

When 17-year-old Norwegian Joshua King debuted against Wolves last week, it highlighted a wealth of attacking talent at OT. With the help of our video, we recap four young forwards with promising futures...

Danny Welbeck
Age 18 Born Manchester

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Style Languid movement with the ball has drawn comparisons with Nwankwo Kanu. Bags of skill, a creative touch, and a deceptively clinical finisher. Laid back demeanour means he takes everything in his stride.
Sir Alex says "It was a fantastic goal against Wolves. He took it really well and it tells you everything about the boy's quality."

Federico Macheda
Age 18 Born Rome, Italy

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Style Very strong and probably the most natural finisher of the United young guns. Has an unerring ability to know where the goal is and where to put the ball. Has the temperament not to let any occasion get to him - see Villa last season.
Sir Alex says "Macheda's top drawer, a hero in the making, just as Cristiano was."

Joshua King
Age 18 Born Oslo, Norway

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Style Strong and powerful with pace to burn. Paddy Crerand reckons he's the best of the lot, while Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, who was influential in bringing him to Manchester, says he's a bit like fellow Norwegian John Carew.
Sir Alex says "He’s very quick has a terrific attitude and he’s only 17. He has a really good future in the game."

John Cofie
Age 16 Born Aboso Ghana

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Style All power, pace and athleticism. John, who joined from Burnley, has impressed in the U18s this season. He can play for Ghana, Germany or England, but chose the latter and has already played at youth level. Rapid rise through OT ranks could follow.
Sir Alex says "Young John Cofie has done very well in our youth team this season. He's one of a number of young forwards breaking through."

zudomiriku

05-10-2009, 09:34 AM

calon bintang masa depan MU neh. suatu saat kita akan melihat duet Wellbeck & Macheda

rondwisan

12-11-2009, 12:14 AM

lanjut yookk ....

Are Reds too short on firepower?

UnitedRant, Ed. Wed, Nov 11, 2009

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While Manchester United’s supporters digest a third defeat away from Old Trafford this season, Sir Alex Ferguson is left to mull over the causes. United was largely unlucky in falling to a 1-0 loss at Stamford Bridge on Sunday but Ferguson’s team, packed full of talent, has failed to score in the defeats to Burnley, Liverpool and Chelsea.

The question is, why?

True, the Scot’s team not only dominated proceedings at Stamford Bridge but was the victim of some injudicious officialdom along the way. Meanwhile at Anfield Ferguson can’t point to the failure to expel Jamie Carragher, whose professional foul on Michael Owen went unpunished. But in apportioning blame at officials – cathartic though it is – it is easy to miss a bigger picture.

In August, Rant argued that United need to score roughly 114 goals this campaign to match last season’s performance. This figure, mitigated by United’s non-involvement in the European Super Cup or World Club Cup, is challenging not least because the team lost 41 goals when Carlos Tevez and Cristiano Ronaldo left the club.

Common logic – certainly among those who wrote to Rant back in August – said that Ferguson’s side would spread the goals around more evenly, with Anderson, Antonio Valencia and Nani all expected to chip in more goals from midfield than in earlier seasons.

Indeed of United’s 33 goals in 18 competitive games this season, 13 have come from outside United’s forwards of Wayne Rooney, Dimitar Berbatov, Michael Owen and Danny Welbeck. Moreover, United’s goals-per-game ratio of 1.83 compares favourably with last season’s 1.80 in all competitions.

Perhaps of greatest concern, though, is that almost one-third of United’s goals came in two games against Wigan and Manchester City. Add Tottenham Hotspur away into the equation and United’s goals-per-game ratio against all but those three sides is disastrously poor. In three games against the ‘top four’, for example, United’s has scored just twice – one a disputed penalty, the other an outrageous own goal.

The serious question now is whether United, without Ronaldo, has become a flat-track bully able to turn over the mediocre but likely to struggle against the top sides. Cast aside the Burnley defeat as a ‘blip’, but the defeats to Chelsea and Liverpool, together with indifferent victories over Arsenal and German champions Wolfsburg, support this theory.

The easy – almost clichéd – conclusion is that United miss Ronaldo and Tevez. Ronaldo, histrionics and media circus aside, is one of the most destructive talents ever to grace a United shirt. In big games with no clear tactical or technical advantage, Ronaldo dug United out of more than one hole.

But in Rooney, Berbatov and Owen, United possesses three strikers of proven international worth. Moreover, the performances of United’s talisman and his Bulgarian colleague have been of an exceptionally high standard this term. Owen, meanwhile, has scored four times from just six starts for the club.

Yesterday, new Ranter Dan bemoaned the loss of Paul Scholes’ midfield goalscoring . He’s right. But that only tells half the tale. Over recent seasons United has stocked up on wingers and deep-lying midfielders. With Anderson playing in front of the back-four, United has four defensive central players. That Scholes rarely makes it beyond the half-way line these days ups the quotient to five.

The easy solution, for most fans at least, is for United to spend and then spend some more. The talents of Franc Ribéry, David Villa and David Silva, mentioned recently in dispatches, would each add to Sir Alex’ attacking options.

But is the make-up of United’s squad or Ferguson’s prefered tactical formation to blame for the apparent dearth of goals? After all, in the summer Darren Fletcher spoke of a “more compact and rigid” United formation and there isn’t a single central midfielder player that gets ahead of the ball in United’s squad. For all the talk of Valencia upping his goal tally, there is compelling evidence that the player is a line hugger – by trade or design – of a very old-fashioned kind.

The compact tactical system also places greater emphasis on United’s defence. Yet this season the back-four that kept 14 Premier League clean sheets in a row is struggling for form and consistency amid growing long-term injury concerns over Rio Ferdinand and Nemanja Vidic. In tight games against leading teams, one chance or one mistake is the difference between defeat and victory. Silverware or an empty cupboard.

In August Rant predicted that United would score 104 goals in all competitions this season. The team is just under a third of the way there. Whether it’ll be enough to bring home some silverware is another thing altogether.

Supernan

12-11-2009, 10:42 AM

Rooney Mungkin masi agak terbebani menjadi tulang Punggung utama UNITED saat ini deh. Ayo dunk Fergie cba" aja Welbeck Kiko or King maybe.....Pas lwn CSKA gw dah seneng bnget tuh si KIKO jd starter syng aja si Igor maennya jago bnget hehehehe. Mungkin SAF lbh melihat/masi berpikir bnyk game" krusial yg ga bleh dicoba" starting XI nya maybe yah, hanya di CC aja neh bisa nurunin Young Guns" Kta

seven7

12-11-2009, 11:36 AM

gw pilih berba - rooney...
berba jadi striker .. dan rooney jadi 2nd strikernya....
kenapa gt.. karena di dalam lapangan gw liat malah seringnya rooney di depan berba...
walaupun pasangan ini menurut gw blm tampil sangat maksimal dan kurang padu permainannya.. dibandingkan mereka bermain bersama owen (owen bisa nyetel ke dua striker ini).. tapi gw tetep pilih berba-rooney..... dan menunggu kerjasama yg baik dari mereka....

drivemein

25-11-2009, 01:09 AM

Lagi" pembicaraan kali ini dimulai dgn pertanyaan. Tidak begitu gampang utk menjawab pertanyaan ini. Melihat performa gol dari Man United, yang bs dibilang "KALAH" dibandingkan dgn Big Four lain nya dalam urusan membobol gawang lawan.
Berikut statistik 5 besar club dgn urutan paling banyak membobol gawang lawan selama 13 partai awal (kecuali Arsenal 12 partai) BPL 2009/2010.
1. Arsenal (M36 - K15)
2. Chelsea (M33 - K8)
3. Tottenham (M32 - K18)
4. Liverpool (M29 - K20)
5. Man United (M26 - K12)

Statistik Gol Man United beberapa musim kebelakang selama 13 partai awal.
2008/2009 (M25 - K10)
2007/2008 (M23 - K6)
2006/2007 (M29 - K6)
2005/2006 (M21 - K13)
2004/2005 (M14 - K10)

Melihat data statistik diatas, sebenarnya musim ini tidak jelek, bahkan dibilang lebih bagus dari 2 musim kebelakang. Namun mengapa, Man United selalu dikait-kaitkan dgn pembelian seorang striker, terutama David Villa.
Bagaimana dgn pendapat teman" semua, apakah seorang David Villa merupakan suatu solusi bagi Man United? Jika iya, mengapa? Jika tidak, apakah teman" punya calon lain untuk mengisi / menambah stok penyerang Man United? Atau apakah 4 penyerang yg dimiliki skrg oleh Man United sudah lebih dr cukup?
Ini hanya sebuah sharing dan tukar pendapat antar kita pecinta Man United.
Atas sharing dari teman" semua, saya ucapkan Terima Kasih.

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Is David Villa the type of talisman Man United need?
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Speculation continues to link Manchester United with a move for Valencia striker David Villa with a move expected to cost over £40 million should it go through, there’s still lots of doubts about a possible deal though – largely that Villa has often stated his preference to stay in Spain and lack of interest in moving to an English club, but as I’ve mentioned previously – should Valencia be forced to sell players to get out of their financial trouble then Villa may have to go abroad. United seem to be the only English team currently interested as Chelsea appear to have moved on to pursuits of other targets like Sergio Aguero and Frank Ribery.

For as long as I can remember United have had a talisman who carries the team forward – usually seems to involve a player wearing the number 7 shirt as well. Eric Cantona, David Beckham, Bryan Robson and Cristiano Ronaldo have all worn the shirt and provided huge contributions in their own ways – Ronaldo and Cantona mainly through goalscoring and Beckham and Robson from their playmaking abilities and weighing in with goals now and again. The current number 7 at Old Trafford doesn’t inspire fear in opposition teams – it was a shock that Man United signed Michael Owen, and then it was a shock that they gave him the number 7 shirt with most fans expecting a new signing to replace the departing Cristiano Ronaldo. Now, without a real talisman in the team – though Wayne Rooney is an influential player – United look devoid of ideas at times and could really do with an impact player to lead them forward regularly. This is where Villa could be the perfect signing for them.

I’ll make no secret of my admiration of Villa; for me he’s the best striker in the world and he can fashion chances out of nothing – thunderbolts, set-pieces, clinical finishes, Villa is deadly. He also has a liking for the number 7 shirt… United haven’t had a big scoring forward since Ruud Van Nistelrooy left the club (unless you consider Ronaldo to be a forward) and, whilst this wasn’t a problem with Ronaldo at the club, they don’t look as intimidating up front – particularly when Rooney is out and they’re playing Owen and Dimitar Berbatov up front with the duo misfiring. Villa meanwhile has scored goals regularly for every club he’s played for and rarely has an off game – adaptation for him would be just as easy as it was for Fernando Torres (despite his reluctance to leave Spain initially) and he could easily top the Premiership goalscoring charts should he make the move.

If Ronaldo had never happened to Man United then it wouldn’t be a player like him who surges forward from midfield that United players are calling for – they’d want another striker to get goals constantly like they were used to from the likes of Van Nistelrooy, Andy Cole and Dwight Yorke. Yet now it’s thought that United’s priority should be a midfielder and, whilst they could do with more creativity in the middle of the park, this isn’t addressing their reduced goalscoring capacity without a big scorer up top. Villa’s diminutive and not a media whore (which makes a change from United’s usual key man) and he certainly doesn’t look like the kind of talisman United are used to. If they were to sign him though and he started to bang the goals in then he would swiftly grab the talisman’s heroic status though – and could even grab the number 7 shirt from misfiring Michael Owen.

KkingP

25-11-2009, 01:23 AM

Finishing touchnya gw pikir sebanding ama Torres... dan dia Licin banget didepan gawang.. sprti yg dibilang author diatas.. DEADLY..
apalagi Didepan udah ada Rooney yang posisinya emang lebih cocok dibelakang striker... dalam bayangan gw, duet Rooney-Villa mang cocok banget dah..

yg gw kurang yakin sih,
1. United dah beli Berba dengan banderol tinggi... mau dikemanain tuh Berba. kecuali Valencia mau tukar guling.. hahaha...

2. dan lagian Villa usianya udah 28 december nanti... 40 jt pound buat pemain yg masa peaknya tinggal 2 thn lagi?
gw gak yakin Fergie mau beli... mending ngincer aguero sekalian..

3. blom lagi youngster kayak Welbeck, Macheda udah siap nyodok..

4. kayaknya Fergie dah enjoy dan lebih PD pake striker tunggal didepan kalo lawan tim besar di EPL apalagi UCL.. trus mau naro Roo lagi disayap..? no way...

fredrian.seven

25-11-2009, 08:37 AM

Klo menurutku untuk jangka pendek MU butuh tambahan tenaga, tapi bukan penambah tenaga biasa tapi yang bener2 bisa ningkatkan produktifitas secara signifikan. tapi masalahnya untuk jangka panjang MU punya Welbeck dan Macheda. Dua striker ini punya potensi besar tapi masih butuh waktu untuk matang,sedangkan MU menurutku butuh yang lebih cepat.

Klopun Villa dibeli, aku setuju sama KkingP klo dengan umur yang sudah 28 tahun harga 40jt bisa sangat-sangat kemahalan buat seorang Villa menurut Fergie. sedangkan untuk membeli striker bagus yang lebih muda tidak bisa untuk masa pendek, tapi untuk masa yang lama (masa kontraknya) padahal MU dah nyiapkan Macheda dan Welbeck.

Sudah juga jadi Fergie klo dapet masalah gini. disatu sisi untuk jangka pendek sepertinya butuh tambahan penyerang bagus, tapi untuk jangka panjang dah ada yang disiapin. klopun beli bisa kebanyakan penyerang. nggak beli penyerang ya produktifitas kalah. sebenernya masih ada Diouf tapi pemaen ini masih dipinjamkan dan kemampuannya blom teruji untuk MU. jangan sampe hanya jadi the next manucho. bingung juga...

Tapi menang 1-0 pun nggak masalah asal konsisten dan hasil akhirnya :champ:. betul kan...

drivemein

25-11-2009, 10:16 AM

1. United dah beli Berba dengan banderol tinggi... mau dikemanain tuh Berba. kecuali Valencia mau tukar guling.. hahaha...

Klo pun tukar guling, pastinya Man United yang akan rugi bro. Mana mau Valencia ksi Villa begitu aja walaupun plus Berba. Pastinya akan minta uang tambahan tuh.

2. dan lagian Villa usianya udah 28 december nanti... 40 jt pound buat pemain yg masa peaknya tinggal 2 thn lagi?
gw gak yakin Fergie mau beli... mending ngincer aguero sekalian..

Berbatov dan Villa tahun ini sama" berusia 28 tahun. Betul, klo mau Man United beli Aguero, secara umurnya tahun ini baru 21. Keluarin uang banyak utk seorang Aguero yang masih memiliki prospek jangka panjang merupakan pembelian yg berguna.

3. blom lagi youngster kayak Welbeck, Macheda udah siap nyodok..

Yuuup..... Macheda, siap menyodok. Belum lagi ada Joshua King & Fabian Brandy yg lg hot"nya di tim reserves.

4. kayaknya Fergie dah enjoy dan lebih PD pake striker tunggal didepan kalo lawan tim besar di EPL apalagi UCL.. trus mau naro Roo lagi disayap..? no way...

Mudah"an OPA mengurangi kebiasaan nya memainkan Rooney di sayap seperti musim lalu. Rooney is a Target Man.

drivemein

25-11-2009, 10:49 AM

Tapi menang 1-0 pun nggak masalah asal konsisten dan hasil akhirnya . betul kan...

Musim ini Man United menang dgn keunggulan 1-0 terjadi 4X disemua kompetisi.
Sunday, 16 August 2009, Man United 1-0 Birmingham
Tuesday, 15 September 2009, Besiktas 0-1 Man United
Wednesday, 23 September 2009, Man United 1-0 Wolves
Wednesday, 21 October 2009, CSKA 0-1 Man United

Setuju dgn bro Fredrian, 1-0 biar bagaimana pun merupakan hasil yg baik krn merupakan kemenangan. Tapi apakah Man United butuh seorang pemain yang bisa berguna sebagai "JIMAT" (TALISMAN) seperti yang ada pada diri Ronaldo, Cantona, Robson, Beckham?
hhmm..... Hanya OPA SAF yg tau. :-?

sedangkan untuk membeli striker bagus yang lebih muda tidak bisa untuk masa pendek, tapi untuk masa yang lama (masa kontraknya) padahal MU dah nyiapkan Macheda dan Welbeck.

Aguero g'mana bro? Masih muda bgt (21 tahun), tapi kualitas udah kelas dunia. :D

klopun beli bisa kebanyakan penyerang. nggak beli penyerang ya produktifitas kalah.

Beli atau tidak beli, sama" membuat pusing. Tapi OPA pasti tau yang terbaik utk Man United.
IN FERGIE WE TRUST...!!!

Baby_Faced_Assassin

25-11-2009, 11:30 AM

kita liat aj dl penampilan Welbeck n Kiko ntar lawan Besiktas!!! Ky ny siy menjanjikan, jd klo gw pikir blm butuh penyerang baru lah :muflag:

theater of dream

25-11-2009, 01:27 PM

ferly_Liemz

25-11-2009, 01:44 PM

IMO Villa mempunyai penyelesaian akhir yang bagus, pergerakan yang lincah di kotak penalti...lebih bagus sebagai target man dibanding Rooney yang memang lebih bagus main di sayap, dengan crossing2 yang akurat dan daya jelajah yang tinggi dan ini akan membuat permainan lebih hidup...

--Villa---Berba---

Rooney-- Anderson--Fletch--Valencia

Evra---Vidic----Rio-----Brown

VDS

Yang jadi masalah harga tu....

kalau formasi ky gt seh sama aja striker di suruh jadi left midfield bro...
kl mau tuh gini...

----------------Villa------------------
Rooney---------------------------Valencia

anderson--Carrick/hagro--Flechter

Evra---rio-----vida-----brown/rafael

-------------------VDS----------------------

ini akan jauh lebih efektif bila lo lbh sk roo jd winger...kl di formasi loe itu lebih mengkhususkan roo mengisi posisi Giggs...dan roo adalah forward maka dia gak akan hepy kl turun kelewat jauh ke bawah..

BTT
gw seh mikir lebih baik gak usah lah maksain beli villa dgn harga selangit...lbh baik beli striker kelas dua tapi rajin cetak gol...liat aja defoe...dia bukan superstar...tapi dia sanggup cetak gol banyak...

kalau mang mau beli mahal,mending bidik pato aje deh...masih muda,bertalenta dan uda teruji jadi tumpuan milan yg notabene "sucks" musim ini...

nu_reccayasha

25-11-2009, 02:01 PM

fredrian.seven

25-11-2009, 02:05 PM

Rooney jadi sayap kiri? aku lebih setuju Rooney jadi penyerang kedua dibanding jadi sayap kiri. Jadi dia lebih bebas nyerang lewat mana aja dan bisa berkreasi lebih banyak. Dengan formasi 4-4-2 dengan Rooney lebih dibelakang Villa aku rasa lebih baik dibanding Rooney jadi sayap kiri.

theater of dream

25-11-2009, 02:25 PM

kalau formasi ky gt seh sama aja striker di suruh jadi left midfield bro...
kl mau tuh gini...

----------------Villa------------------
Rooney---------------------------Valencia

anderson--Carrick/hagro--Flechter

Evra---rio-----vida-----brown/rafael

-------------------VDS----------------------

ini akan jauh lebih efektif bila lo lbh sk roo jd winger...kl di formasi loe itu lebih mengkhususkan roo mengisi posisi Giggs...dan roo adalah forward maka dia gak akan hepy kl turun kelewat jauh ke bawah..
Kalo formasi bro menurut gw serangan akan kurang variasi aja kecuali kalo valencia diganti ama Giggs gw rasa itu lebih bagus..

----------------Villa------------------
Rooney---------------------------Valencia

anderson--Carrick/hagro--Flechter

Evra---rio-----vida-----brown/rafael

-------------------VDS----------------------

Gw rasa gak masalah sama aja Ronaldo yang posisi asli nya Winger tapi sering juga dipasang jadi striker..Begitu juga Rooney yang punya segala nya untuk sabagai winger, dribling, passing, crossing, visi, semua nya bagus dan serangan akan lebih variatif mungkin kelemahan pertahanan agak kurang,,,
IMO di united pemain yang bisa memainkan peran Winger/Striker ada Rooney, Giggs, Wellbeck..

BTT
gw seh mikir lebih baik gak usah lah maksain beli villa dgn harga selangit...lbh baik beli striker kelas dua tapi rajin cetak gol...liat aja defoe...dia bukan superstar...tapi dia sanggup cetak gol banyak...

kalau mang mau beli mahal,mending bidik pato aje deh...masih muda,bertalenta dan uda teruji jadi tumpuan milan yg notabene "sucks" musim ini...
Dari pada pemain kelas dua mending kita manfaatin aja pemain muda seperti Wellbeck, Macheda, Obertan...
Dan satu lagi kita masih punya Owen...