Old Masters - sampai kapan ... ???

[rondwisan]

29/09/2009 09:49 - ManUtd.com, Paddy Crerand
Old masters full of vitality

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The standard of fitness of United's players is far higher today than it ever has been, and that's why Ryan Giggs and Paul Scholes are still playing at the top level. The way they look after themselves, with all the staff dedicated to fitness and healthy lifestyles is incredible. Players look after themselves certainly a lot better than they did in my day.

I think sometimes age becomes a mental thing for a lot of people. There's this idea that once you’re over 30 you’re on the road out. I think that’s a load of rubbish. Once you’re over the 30-mark you’re more intelligent, and often you're as strong as a horse because you’re doing everything you can to stay in good condition. But it’s the intelligence more than anything. I think Paul Scholes, Ryan Giggs and Gary Neville have got big roles to play at United for a while to come.

If you looked at Ryan Giggs against Manchester City – that was the same Ryan Giggs I saw play his first game for United against City! That’s exactly what he was like. And he was influential again at Stoke on Saturday. Paul Scholes was brilliant, too. You never lose your ability, and if you can stay fit you’re quids in. You’re made. It’s only a matter of looking after yourself, and you can’t get away with anything at Old Trafford now! You’ve got dieticians, fitness coaches, all sorts of things.

It's interesting to some players blossoming since Cristiano Ronaldo left. Wayne Rooney wasn’t centre-stage when Ronaldo was here and maybe didn’t the praise as he deserved. There are others that can step up and become key players. Can Nani become the player there is the possibility of him being? Will he get his final ball right? If he does he will be a fantastic player. And he has a great player to learn from in Giggs.

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2. Gary Neville - 18 Feb 1975 (34)
11. Ryan Giggs - 29 Nov 1973 (36)
18. Paul Scholes - 16 Nov 1974 (35)


sampai kapan yaa, para Old Creck ini akan bermain dengan jersey United ... :-/:-/:-/

[rondwisan]

wacana ini di rumah lama pernah gw angkat ....
saat itu Oom Neville ama Oom Scholessy lagi berkutat dengan cederanya ...

setelah mereka bisa kembali bermain, emang performanya jauh menurun ...
Oom Neville sering kali menjadi titik lemah di pertahanan United, juga Oom Scholes nyang sering jadi kayak baru belajar maen bola ..., but lambat laun ... mereka bisa mengembalikan performa mereka ke level yang lebih tinggi meski tentunya tidak pada top form lah

lain lagi dengan Oom Giggsy ..., meski masih sering dimainkan Opa Alex pada pertandingan2x penting ..., terus terang performa Oom Giggs masih cukup ok ..., meski kadang2x juga sering jadi kartu mati lini tengah United, hanya saja setelah menampilkan penampilan gemez dot kom, biasanya Oom Giggs menghapus dengan umpan2x manis or gol penentu untuk United

case teranyar ..., saat United stuck dalam membongkar pertahanan Stoke City di Britannia stadium, Oom Giggs begitu dimasukkan langsung bisa merubah jalannya pertandingan dengan memberikan assist cantik untuk Berba dan J'Oshea

rasanya role models para senior ini masih dibutuhkan untuk membimbing para talenta muda yang ada di United, but sampe kapan yaa mereka akan terus bermain untuk United ...

apakah someday mereka akan berdiri di pinggir lapangan dan bertereak-tereak memberi komando dan motivasi buat para pemain United di lapangan ..., hope so ... :peace:

[dancoloveunited]

kayaknya sampai hayat dikandung badan... :D

anyway, IMO musim 2010/2011 bakalan jadi musim terakhir bagi mereka... bakalan jadi perpisahan yang indah, pensiun dengan mengantarkan United menjadi the best club in England (insya Allah) dengan 20 gelar liga... :siul:



apakah someday mereka akan berdiri di pinggir lapangan dan bertereak-tereak memberi komando dan motivasi buat para pemain United di lapangan ..., hope so ... :peace:

LIKE THIS... :thumbup:

[Andi Istiabudi]

Semoga kelak jika mereka pensiun, salah satu diantara mereka bertiga bersedia datang ke Indonesia dan menemui penggemar United di Indonesia, terutama member UI..

[rondwisan]

Semoga kelak jika mereka pensiun, salah satu diantara mereka bertiga bersedia datang ke Indonesia dan menemui penggemar United di Indonesia, terutama member UI..

yoi Sob ...., kmrn tuh OOm Giggs udah banyak banget nyang menantikan kehadiran ...
sayang kagak jadi ... :(( :hammer:

[Andi Istiabudi]

yoi Sob ...., kmrn tuh OOm Giggs udah banyak banget nyang menantikan kehadiran ...
sayang kagak jadi ... :(( :hammer:

Belum rezekinya mungkin... Ingat, kegagalan adalah sukses yang tertunda ! Siapa tau kemarin Giggs gak jadi dateng tapi akhir musim ini justru ke Indonesia. Who knows ??? Tetap berdoa dan optimis aja bro [-O<

[theater of dream]

I just cant imagine yet, United without Giggs and Scholes

[RedRob]

selain Sultan Hasanudin, Pangeran Diponegoro, Kapitan Pattimura, mereka lah para pahlawan masa kecil gw.... hehehe....

untuk menjawab pertanyaan sampai kapankah mereka bisa tampil, IMO, maksimal masa edar mereka 1-2 musim lagi... itu pun dijamin dengan penurunan jam main dan kemungkinan ketidakoptimalan permainan...

apapun dan kapanpun, masa2 itu adalah fase alami yang harus dilewati setiap pemain profesional... menakjubkan memang, mereka masih bisa mendekati masa akhir dengan tetap bermain optimal (sesuai kondisi tentunya) dan berkontribusi maksimal dalam meraih gelar demi gelar dalam beberapa tahun terakhir ini.....

tapi regenerasi harus terus berjalan.. bukannya gw gak seneng dengan penampilan gemilang Giggsy dan Scholesy di awal musim ini.. i'm one of the happiest fans for sure.. tapi ketergantungan tim yang masih cukup besar kepada mereka juga bikin gw agak gundah... ketika saatnya tiba the old cracks udah harus mengucapkan salam perpisahan, atau minimal, ketika mereka udah gak mampu bermain di level seperti saat ini, tim akan kelimpungan dan goyah....

so, hemat gw, di waktu tersisa ini, transfer ilmu dari 'the old masters' ini harus cepat dilakukan dan dioptimalkan oleh para pemain-pemain muda United... menyerap pengetahuan dan energi mereka untuk kembali menampilkannya di lapangan adalah yang kita harapkan oleh para penerus generasi emas ini... konon, energi sifatnya kekal, tidak dapat hilang hanya terbarukan... itu yang gw harapkan dari United untuk masa-masa ke depan... energi-energi yang perlahan pudar akan menransformasikan dirinya ke energi-energi baru....

hail to the legends..... the living legends.... the players that brought United--and we, the fans--to the promised land....

[Shorrty]

Don't Retire Please..!!!!!
(sorry satu baris.. abisnya bingung mo ngomong apa) yg pasti gak salah dah waktu sy mulai suka united dengan menyukai The Welsh Wizard dulu..

[fredrian.seven]

memang tidak bisa dipungkiri klo trio punggawa MU masih sangat bagus performanya terutama giggs dan scholes.tapi MU tidak bisa berharap kontribusi mereka untuk jangka waktu lama.selain karena kondisi fisik juga karena alasan regenerasi.pemaen seperti ando dan gibbo butuh kesempatan turun lebih banyak untuk mengeluarkan potensinya.dua pertandingan terakhir MU seperti butuh giggs untuk menang.menang memang hal positif tapi MU tidak bisa berharap terus pada giggs.aku sih tidak berharap giggs dkk cepat pensiun tapi setidaknya MU bisa mulai mengurangi ketergantungan pada sosok giggs dkk.dan saat mereka pensiun (mungkin akhir musim ini ataw musim depan paling lambat) MU telah memiliki pengganti yang sepadan. setelah mereka pensiun mereka bisa dimasukkan ke tim pelatih untuk transfer ilmu plus membentuk giggs,scholes dan neville lainnya.. mungkin giggs bisa bantu OGS di tim reserve,jadi ada duet legenda dengan dibantu warren joyce di tim reserve.jadi youngster kita akan dilatih legenda MU sebelum akhirnya dilatih pelatih legendaris MU, Sir Alex Ferguson.
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[rondwisan]

jarang-jarang kejadian nih ..., pada merhatiin gak ..., sabtu malem lalu ... trio macan (tua - but gak ompong) United barengan jadi starting line up ... ^:)^ :-bd

terus terang rada ketar-ketir juga awalnya ..., apalagi gak ada Roo 'n Rio
apakah karena lawannya "hanya" Bolton .., hehe ... ;))

yang jelas Uncle Giggsy setelah sempet membuang beberapa peluang akhirnya memberikan assist matang kepada Samuel ... :hammer:

Oom Scholes juga masih ok aja pass-passnya ..., meski sempet ngaco juga

Oom Gary, gak terlalu kerja keras meski sempet beberapa kali kecolongan (untung VDS tampil otree)

[ferly_Liemz]

kl blh jujur seh gw berharap mereka akan selalu bermain ampe kpn pun..tp kl secara realistis seh gw rasa musim depan bs jd musim terakhir mereka...T_T
Ibarat nya maldini di milan,buat gw seh terserah mereka aja gmn enaknya...meski gw berharap bgt mereka bs dpt 1 lg ucl sebelum pensiun...sumpah gw ngetik tentang pensiunnya mereka aja bkn gw merinding sedih...org bnyk pasti blg pemain dgn skill terbaik itu maradona ato pele ato bahkan messi saat ini..buat gw giggs saat top form nya lbh bs membuat gw bengong kagum..ato gelandang serang terbaik di inggris itu lampard ato gerard,tp buat gw kl scholes kl skrg di usia produktifnya maka ga ada yg bs geser dia di timnas...begitu jg dgn gary neville..
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[Andi Istiabudi]

Idealnya mereka memutuskan pensiun setelah berhasil menjadi juara kembali musim depan (EPL, FA Cup, Carling Cup dan UEFA Champions Cup) dan akan lebih dramatis lagi jika setelah berhasil memenangkan semua gelar tadi, Sir Alex Ferguson juga turut mundur bersama tiga pemain binaannya yang paling sukses tersebut, tentu saja ada rasa haru dan kebanggaan tersendiri. Mungkin ini akan menjadi salah satu momen bersejarah bagi Manchester United ...

[rondwisan]

dengan tanpa mengurangi rasa hormat kepada para legenda hidup (playing legend) United saat ini, Trio Uncle Giggsy, Oom Scholes 'n Pakde Gary, rasanya gw lebih sreg klo Opa Alex lebih banyak beri kesempatan pada young player yang ada .... rasanya waktu untuk Oom-Oom udah cukup di lapangan bersama United ..., hehehe ...
bukannya habis manis sepah dibuang lho ...:peace:

[GL zone]

sebener ny ga bisa bayangin kalo ngeliat united tanpa mereka (giggs, scholes, neville)
tapi show must go on...umur dan stamina ga bisa boong

mungkin begitu pelapis mereka udah semakin matang, mereka bisa pensiun dgn tenang

neville = rafael
giggs = nani/obertan
scholes = gibbo

[ferly_Liemz]

agree ama opa...emang kl mereka pensiun akan menggoyahkan tim tapi jg ada positifnya untuk talenta2 muda united,gw blg gn tanpa mengurangi rasa hormat kepada trio ini ya..yg pasti biarlah mereka pensiun di saat mereka memperoleh kejayaan....
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[B4YU]

klo menurut gw lebih cepat untuk pensiun akan lebih baek (bukan pindah klub :D)

karena jika mereka bertiga tetep di skuad utama otomatis pemaen2 yang diharapkan akan mewarisi posisi mereka pun mgkn akan sulit berkembang dan imbasnya justru antara loan dan jual.....:hajar2:

Giggs misalnya dah jelas menurut gw gak mampu untuk bermain di sayap kiri.. walau beberapa musim ini dipasang di tengah tapi menurut gw justru kurang efektif karena akan sangat sulit utk dia turun sampe membantu daerah pertahanan United...

[Andi Istiabudi]

Mungkin perlu dipertimbangkan agar Giggs, Scholes dan Neville diangkat menjadi staff pelatih jika seandainya mereka memutuskan pensiun. Hal ini diharapkan dapat memberikan semangat dan motivasi kepada pemain muda MU lainnya, mengingat dengan pengalaman yang telah dimiliki selama bertahun-tahun, tentunya mereka sangat dihormati dan disegani oleh pemain muda MU lainnya.

[zeavhere]

kalau menurut ane sih emang kalau secara keseluruhan, permainan mereka udah jauh menurun dibandingkan saat mereka masih muda, namun untuk pengalamannya saya kira masih dibutuhkan untuk laga-laga di akhir musim yang penuh dengan ketegangan, lihat aja kayak ketenangan scholes pas lawan wolves kemaren, kalau yang pegang bola pemain muda itu pun belum tentu bisa gol , soalnya kan si mame dapet banyak peluang tih pas itu :D

tapi sebenernya ga salah juga sih kalau sekrang udah wktuya para senior mengundurkan diri ( kecuali VDS tentunya :D ) , kasihan yang muda-muda kalau mereka ga mundur", ntar yang muda jrang main ujung-ujungnya dijual dah . eman banged lah, :D

sekian pendapat newbie :peace:

[erin]

Idealnya mereka memutuskan pensiun setelah berhasil menjadi juara kembali musim depan (EPL, FA Cup, Carling Cup dan UEFA Champions Cup) dan akan lebih dramatis lagi jika setelah berhasil memenangkan semua gelar tadi, Sir Alex Ferguson juga turut mundur bersama tiga pemain binaannya yang paling sukses tersebut, tentu saja ada rasa haru dan kebanggaan tersendiri. Mungkin ini akan menjadi salah satu momen bersejarah bagi Manchester United ...

buset..kalo kejadianx smpe kek gini...
Namax MU diterpa badai kalo menurut gw...
gk kebayang gimana...

Emang Fergie sendiri gk menyangkal kalo mreka msh butuh para old cracker..
Terbukti dengan adanya pemberitaan kalo Fergie meletakkan harapan juara musim ini pd old cracker...

Gw jd teringat pas Final Champ League lwn Chelsea..
Pas adu pinalti..Nge-liat pinaltix Giggs (yg notabenex udh tuwir)..Asli berkelas bgt...Ketenangan dan mentalx bener dh...
Dibandingkan dgn CR7 lg heboh2x,trnyata nendang pinaltix gagal....*hehehehe

Kalo regenerasix mungkin Fergie udh punya beberapa opsi,spti yg udh disebut2in di atas...
Giggs, ada Nani dan Valencia, jgn lupakan juga Tosic, walopun jam terbang Tosic msh minim bgt...
Scholes, ada Gibo..dan Neville ada rafael..
Tapi yh itu dy..Smua pemaen muda ini pengalaman dan mentalx msh perlu diasah lg,disamping skill tentunya...

Gua yakin kalo misalnya pr old crakcer ini udh pensiun satu per satu, Fergie sdh menyiapkan para regenerasi untuk menggantikanx..

Yang jelas agenda regenerasi pmaen udh ada di agenda SAF,at least kita msh ada 1-2 musim lg untuk mempersiapkan regenerasi itu..Setidaknya di musim dpn, Fergie bisa lbh byk memainkan pmaen2 mudanya biar mereka akan siap mengganti para Old Crakcer yg nantinya akan pensiun..:happy:

Kalo soal kepelatihan sih, mereka smua emang skrg lg ngejar lisence bwt ngelatih kan..
Malahan Rooney dan Rio juga udh iktan pendidikan bwt ngambil lisence tsb..

[Bayu*Lazuardy]

sori klo OOT sebelumnya...

gw sangat berharap. ketika Manchester United datang ke Indonesia. giggs,scholes dan neville masih dapat membela United ketika bertandang melawan Indonesia :D

[Mahesa_Jenar]

Kalau soal pengganti sih rasanya tidak akan kesulitan, kalau hanya sekedar menggantikan di lapangan. Tapi menggantikan mereka di dalam hati.. hmmm....

[yoshiharu_kubo10]

mereka ga akan bisa bermain di lapangan selamanya...aku harap sih...ini musim terakhir Giggs dkk...United harus lebih banyak memberi kesempatan pada pemain muda...untuk masa depan klub sendiri...

tapi memang mereka teladan yang luar biasa dan bisa menjadi contoh bagi para pemain muda...makanya aku dulu bilang...buat patung mereka di Carrington...image Giggs dkk kemudian akan menjadi inspirasi para pemain muda yang masuk United...

[rondwisan]

klo emang Opa mo nurunin mereka bertiga lagi di laga tadi pagi ..., kenapa minggu dini hari kemaren mereka dimaenin semua yaa ... :hammer: :(

[B4YU]

setelah melihat match tadi pagi ... mgkn harus segeralah ...

Giggs dan Neville terutama.....

Neville selalu kalah sprint .... dan imbasnya faktor hands ball gak bisa dipungkiri karena fisik dah habis menurut gw....~X(

[erwien.batosay]

Cuma satu Old Masters yg tampil oce tadi pagi. Mr. Edwin Van Der Sar
Salut buat EVDS1:beer:

[ferly_Liemz]

agree bgt ama mas erwien....vds mang manusia super..hehehe
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[B4YU]

Cuma satu Old Masters yg tampil oce tadi pagi. Mr. Edwin Van Der Sar
Salut buat EVDS1:beer:

setuju...

yah tapi mungkin karena beda posisi... kiper gak sering lari...:hammer:

[ing areese]

as yg di atas2 bilang, VDS mank super keren... Kl gak krn VDS mgkn kita udah kalah banyak dr awal2 :D

But ada 1 hal yg lum berubah ampe sekarang dari salah satu old crackers kita (scholes), kakinya masih suka kesurupan (utk urusan tackle mentackel) :hammer:

[fredrian.seven]

setelah melihat match tadi pagi ... mgkn harus segeralah ...

Giggs dan Neville terutama.....

Neville selalu kalah sprint .... dan imbasnya faktor hands ball gak bisa dipungkiri karena fisik dah habis menurut gw....~X(

Awalnya aku berharap trio pemaen itu bakalan bertahan 1 musim lagi di MU. tapi setelah liat partai lawan Bayern, rasanya hanya Scholes yang masih cocok di MU musim depan.

Setuju sama bayu. Stamina menjadi faktor utama yang membuat trio pemaen itu menurun performanya. selain itu sedikit perubahan permainan dengan mendatangkan pemaen baru juga penting. huff... emang umur nggak bisa ditipu. mungkin klub2 di inggris masih banyak yang bisa ditipu, tapi klo dah di eropa dan klub besar rasanya dah susah,he...

[an_setanmerah]

Buat gw masih ada tempat buat mereka musim depan. Tapi kalo setelah musim depan kayaknya nggak keterawang deh (semoga bukan cedera yang bikin mereka retire). Scholsey 'n Giggsy (terutama Scholes) masih diperlukan, belum ada pemain ManUnited yang sampai sekarang punya kemampuan yang sama dengan mereka berdua in terms of filling the hole. Mungkin secara menit, bakal turun drastis, tapi dari banyaknya pertandingan, nggak akan jauh beda sama musim ini (kecuali ada big signing di midfield musim transfer nanti).

Masih inget kan brilliantnya Giggsy di awal musim, saat ManUnited lagi cari bentuk permainan dan Rooney belum se-on fire sekarang? Atau gimana Scholsey gantian sama Carrick ngirim bola-bola mateng ke Rooney atau ke- flanks (plus gol-golnya) konsisten dari awal musim sampai sekarang. SAF dan fans United masih perlu mereka.

Terus Gary? Sama juga, menit berkurang, tapi main jalan terus. Jadi keinget Dennis Irwin waktu mau keluar dari ManUnited. Berkurang semuanya sampai dia pindah. Tapi semoga Gary nggak ikutan pindah.

[rondwisan]

three musketeers @ starting line up ... (again) :-/
please deh Opa ..., ini lawan Chelsea ..., bukan Bolton ..., hikksss :hammer::hammer:

[B4YU]

yg sampai sekarang gw sesali kekalahan vs Chelsea lebih kepada formasi pemaen lagi.....:-SS

dan yg paling parah menurut gw adalah dipasangnya Giggs di match kemaren...:peace:

[Ucup Carrick]

3 orang ini yang jadi titik lemah pas lawan chelsea kemaren...
sebaiknya opa mencontoh pep guardiola...yang gak segan menurunkan pemain muda jika diperlukan dan jika memang dia siap tempur...

[rondwisan]

Opa masih terinspirasi match lawan Bolton minggu lalu ..., serta match lawan Chelsea di Old Trafford musim yang lalu ... :hammer::hammer:

[zudomiriku]

menurut berita, para aki-aki sementara akan 'diparkir' dulu pas lawan Muenchen nanti

[zeavhere]

menurut berita, para aki-aki sementara akan 'diparkir' dulu pas lawan Muenchen nanti
untuk lawan munchen besok setuju lah, soalnya emang perlu darah muda untuk membendung kecepatan pemainnya munchen, apalagi kalau mainnya kayak kemaren, bisa gawat malah kalau masang "opa-opa" kita :D

[zudomiriku]

'MU Menua dan Kian Mudah Dikalahkan'
Doni Wahyudi - detiksport



Liverpool - Meski masih berpeluang jadi juara di Premier League dan Liga Champions, Manchester United dianggap tengah dalam kondisi buruk saat ini. The Red Devils terlalu mudah dikalahkan dan pemainnya mulai banyak yang menua.

Demikian diungkapkan mantan pemain Liverpool yang kini menjadi komentator BBC, Alan Hansen, jelang laga MU kontra Bayern Munich di leg kedua babak delapan besar Liga Champions.

Pernyataan Hansen jelas tak salah, kekalahan atas Chelsea akhir pekan kemarin menjadi yang ketujuh diderita The Red Devils di Liga Inggris saja. Jumlah tersebut merupakan kekalahan terbanyak yang diderita MU dalam semusim sejak 2003/2004, di mana mereka menelan sembilan kekalahan dan duduk di posisi tiga klasemen akhir.

"MU lebih mudah dikalahkan musim ini, sebuah fakta yang digarisbahawi dengan tujuh kekalahan yang sudah ditelan di Liga Inggris musim ini," tulis Hansen dalam kolomnya di Telegraph seperti dikutip dari Yahoosports.

Menurut mantan pemain Liverpool di periode 1977–1991 tersebut, ada setidaknya tiga faktor yang membuat MU mengalami penurunan performa seperti musim ini.

"Mereka mulai menua, mereka juga kurang ulet dan yang terakhir sederhana saja, mereka tak sebagus yang sebelum-sebelumnya," lanjut Hansen.

Beberapa pemain senior yang kini dimiliki MU dan terbukti masih sering dimainkan Sir Alex Ferguson adalah Garry Neville (35 tahun) dan Paul Scholes (35). Di bawah mistar MU juga punya ada Edwin van der Sar yang sudah 39 tahun, meski kiper Belanda itu masih punya penampilan yang sangat-sangat baik.

Kebutuhan utama peremajaan pemain MU justru ada di lini depan. Soalnya kini ada jurang yang cukup besar antara Wayne Rooney dengan Dimitar Berbatov atau Michael Owen, yang justru sering disibukkan dengan urusan cedera. Padahal Fergie juga belum berani memberi kepercayaan pada Federico Macheda untuk jadi pemain reguler.

Rooney saat ini sudah mencetak 34 gol diseluruh kompetisi, sementara Berbatov baru 12 kali menjebol gawang lawannya. Di belakang striker Bulgaria itu ada Owen dengan sembilan gol dan Paul Scholes yang melesakkan enam gol.

[dekepiks]

Opa kudu lebih sering ngasih kepercayaan sama pemain2 mudanya, kaya yang dulu die lakuin...

banyak memang faktor-faktor pertimbangannya...tapi harus segera dimulai. Kemaren keliatan banget our old masters, udh abis secara fisik, walaupun visi permainan masih tajem...giliran para fresh legs yang kudu ngelanjutin...

[rondwisan]

semoga Rafael - Nani - Gibson, bisa segera menerima tongkat estafet dari para playing legend ini yaa ... :shakehand:

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[dhona.7]

mereka itu tua-tua keladi, makin tua makin menjadi...

smpe skrg pun pengalaman skill dan talenta mereka msh dibutuhkan...

semoga mereka ada pengganti'a kelak jika mereka pensiun...

[yoshiharu_kubo10]

semoga Rafael - Nani - Gibson, bisa segera menerima tongkat estafet dari para playing legend ini yaa ... :shakehand:


aku lebih suka Obertan drpd Nani, Pa Ron...kekekekek...

yang lainnya setuju...

[fredrian.seven]

Setelah pertandingan semalem rasanya harusnya musim ini menjadi musim terakhir mereka. Giggs diganti sebelom akhir pertandingan, Neville rasanya makin kasar aja maennya, apakah karena nafasnya dah nggak kuat jadi lambat nekelnya. yang paling mending mungkin scholes, tapi itupun tidak memberi tambahan signifikan.

[rondwisan]

mereka itu tua-tua keladi, makin tua makin menjadi...

smpe skrg pun pengalaman skill dan talenta mereka msh dibutuhkan...

semoga mereka ada pengganti'a kelak jika mereka pensiun...

tapi tetep Sob ..., umur gak bisa dibohongi ...
ok lah ..., dalam setiap musim ada sekali, dua kali or bahkan beberapa kali mereka tampil memukau ..., but total ada berapa partai dlam semusim ...
sekali lagi dengan tanpa mengurangi rasa hormat ..., mestinya musim udah berakhir buat our playing legend ini ...

[Andi Istiabudi]

Ryan Giggs, Paul Scholes dan Gary Neville merupakan salah satu legenda hidup dan pemain besar yang pernah dimiliki oleh Manchester United. Namun seberapa bagusnya mereka bermain saat ini tampaknya mereka tidak bisa mengalahkan fakta bahwa usia mereka yang tidak muda lagi secara tidak langsung mempengaruhi penampilan mereka di lapangan dan tentunya mereka dan Sir Alex Ferguson sangat menyadarinya.

Dengan hasil kurang menggembirakan musim ini, sebaiknya mereka menunda dulu rencana pensiun minimal hingga akhir musim depan namun di musim terakhirnya mereka merebut gelar EPL, Carling, FA Cup dan Champions sehingga menjadi akhir karir yang manis bagi mereka ...

[B4YU]

Ryan Giggs, Paul Scholes dan Gary Neville merupakan salah satu legenda hidup dan pemain besar yang pernah dimiliki oleh Manchester United. Namun seberapa bagusnya mereka bermain saat ini tampaknya mereka tidak bisa mengalahkan fakta bahwa usia mereka yang tidak muda lagi secara tidak langsung mempengaruhi penampilan mereka di lapangan dan tentunya mereka dan Sir Alex Ferguson sangat menyadarinya.

Dengan hasil kurang menggembirakan musim ini, sebaiknya mereka menunda dulu rencana pensiun minimal hingga akhir musim depan namun di musim terakhirnya mereka merebut gelar EPL, Carling, FA Cup dan Champions sehingga menjadi akhir karir yang manis bagi mereka ...

bukannya hasil musim ini juga tak terlepas dari mereka juga???

kalau hasilnya masih sama seperti musim ini apakah mereka harus menunda ke akhir musim berikutnya dan seterusnya gitu???

:-SS

[rondwisan]

mereka tuh bukan legenda hidup ..., but playing legend (masih maen gitu lho)
dan rasanya memang romantisme seperti yang disampaikan Oom Andi di atas yang sekarang ini tengah dilakuin Opa Alex ..., hikss ...

rasanya gak perlu dipaksakan seperti itu ...
sudah waktunya para talenta2x muda yang selama ini dibina untuk diberikan kesempatan tampil lebih lama ...

[Andi Istiabudi]

Sepertinya Sir Alex Ferguson cenderung menyerahkan keputusan pensiun ketiganya kepada mereka sendiri. Tidak pernah terlihat upaya Sir Alex untuk menggantikan posisi mereka secara permanen, mungkin karena Sir Alex juga masih membutuhkan mereka yach ? Tiap kali ada pernyataan niat pensiun dari Scholes, Giggs atau Neville, biasanya Sir Alex selalu mengomentari "dengan kemampuan yang ada, dia masih bisa bertahan 1-2 musim lagi di OLd Trafford".

Kendati begitu, saya setuju dengan pendapat Cak Rondwisan yakni diperlukan regenerasi di tubuh Manchester United. Mungkin Sir Alex berniat meniru AC Milan yang dulu sempat mempertahankan Costacurta dan Maldini hingga usia 40 tahun, hehehe ...

[theater of dream]

IMO Gary mungkin sudah keliatan pengganti nya Rafael, Giggs udah bisa diganti Nani atau Park, nah kalo Scholes sapa yah ???:-??

[otonk reddevilz]

IMO Gary mungkin sudah keliatan pengganti nya Rafael, Giggs udah bisa diganti Nani atau Park, nah kalo Scholes sapa yah ???:-??

kalo gibson gimana om..apakah sudah layak jadi penerus/pengganti Scholes..

[fredrian.seven]

gibson masih blom pantes jadi pengganti scholes.klo aku lihat permainan gibbo biasa2 aja.hanya tendangannya aja yang mantep,selebihnya blom istimewa. Sebenernya aku berharap hargo fit,tapi bukan sebagai pengganti scholes.aku berharap duetnya sama fletcher bisa memberikan kekuatan dan dominasi di lini tengah MU. Atau mungkin bisa dipertimbangkn beli pemaen baru seperti hamsik sebagai duetnya fletcher,he..
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[theater of dream]

kalo gibson gimana om..apakah sudah layak jadi penerus/pengganti Scholes..Gibson masih mengandalkan tendangan aja, sampe sekarang belum bisa mengendalikan irama permainan lini tengah, dan visi menyerang juga masih kurang, saya setuju sama om Fredrian kalo Hargo fit memang duet yang pantas mengisi lini tengah..

gibson masih blom pantes jadi pengganti scholes.klo aku lihat permainan gibbo biasa2 aja.hanya tendangannya aja yang mantep,selebihnya blom istimewa. Sebenernya aku berharap hargo fit,tapi bukan sebagai pengganti scholes.aku berharap duetnya sama fletcher bisa memberikan kekuatan dan dominasi di lini tengah MU. Atau mungkin bisa dipertimbangkn beli pemaen baru seperti hamsik sebagai duetnya fletcher,he..
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[B4YU]

IMO Gary mungkin sudah keliatan pengganti nya Rafael, Giggs udah bisa diganti Nani atau Park, nah kalo Scholes sapa yah ???:-??

kan ada Fletcher.... dan juga masih ada Gibson dan Ando sbg pelapis

[ferly_Liemz]

mungkin mereka ud harus di biasakan jd subs saat tim butuh keseimbangan mental...ud ga bs d paksain,krn dlm kompetisi itu bth konsistensi. Dan gw harus akui kl mereka ud ga konsisten lg maen nya...kasian jg kl mereka di paksain...
yg gw tw selama trio macan msh ada maka sir alex akan selalu bernostalgia dan 3 posisi itu akan sulit di tembus para youngster...
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[Andi Istiabudi]

Selama ini Sir Alex Ferguson masih memberikan kepercayaan kepada beberapa pemain senior dalam tim utama. Bagus sih tapi harus mulai dipikirkan agar regenerasi dapat berjalan dengan mulai memberikan kepercayaan kepada pemain muda. Contoh ekstem bisa dilihat dari Arsene Wenger. Dalam beberapa tahun terakhir pelatih Arsenal tersebut berani merombak total tim utamanya sehingga saat ini justru didominasi pemain muda.

[red_devilz]

Scholes replacement ???

Vote for ..... Tom Cleverley :D

Muda , produktif (untuk ukuran seorang pemain tengah) , dribbling keren + passing mantap (dalam standard Championship Division ) dan yg jelas ..... tackling nya jauh lebih bagus dr Scholes coz posisi asli Cleverley sebelumnya dalah full back

*penilaian hanya didasarkan penilaian beberapa forum pengemar United + klip2 d Youtube

[fredrian.seven]

Scholes replacement ???

Vote for ..... Tom Cleverley :D

Muda , produktif (untuk ukuran seorang pemain tengah) , dribbling keren + passing mantap (dalam standard Championship Division ) dan yg jelas ..... tackling nya jauh lebih bagus dr Scholes coz posisi asli Cleverley sebelumnya dalah full back

*penilaian hanya didasarkan penilaian beberapa forum pengemar United + klip2 d Youtube

aku suka ini... setuju banget tapi tidak untuk musim depan. dia masih muda banget... mungkin klo musim depan dia blom bisa masuk tim inti, tapi untuk 2-3 tahun mungkin dah bisa ambil bagian di tim utama.

salah satu yang aku sukai dari cleverley adalah karena dia pemaen serba bisa. di FM klo nggak salah dia bisa disemua posisi dilini tengah plus bek kanan.

[hendiplast]

United veterans play it cool

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Never one to talk up a situation that could be played down to boredom, Paul Scholes probably reacted to news of Chelsea's defeat at Tottenham with a disinterested shrug of the shoulders.

Yet Scholes has been down this course enough times now to recognise a golden opportunity when he sees one.

Next Saturday, Manchester United tackle Spurs themselves, knowing victory at Old Trafford will take them back to the top of the Premier League and leave Chelsea stewing for over 24 hours, fretting about their fate in a title race the Blues had been in control of.

"We need favours off teams. We know that," said Scholes.

"But we just have to look after ourselves now, hopefully win all our games and see what happens elsewhere.

"If we had drawn against City it was probably all over. But the result has given us a little glimmer of hope."

Scholes was speaking before Chelsea had even kicked off, probably more in hope than expectation, after his 149th Manchester United goal had secured one of those staggering, jaw-dropping victories that will live long in the memory, whether United complete an unprecedented fourth successive championship triumph or not.

"We just keep going," said Scholes.

"Some teams play for a draw, whether City were doing that I don't know. But we are not a team that ever plays for a draw.

"We want to win. That guarantees we go right to the end."

He put his header right into the corner, making it impossible for Shay Given to keep out, a reminder why Sir Alex Ferguson persuaded him to sign a contract extension 24 hours earlier that will keep the 35-year-old at United for another season.

And Ferguson added: "Paul is 35 now so in that situation he is bound to be wondering what the manager thinks, what the club, the supporters and his team-mates think?

"There must be these certain questions because he has such great pride.

"Without question I believe he has another year left in him.

"His impact is unquestioned. We should never even discuss the impact he has made. Everyone can see it."

Now Ferguson and his troops must regather themselves for a three-match tilt at the top they could not have expected last week as they trooped off at Blackburn, having ended an awful fortnight with a tame draw that nearly had their manager throwing in the towel.

"There are always question marks at this club when you lose matches," accepted skipper Gary Neville.

"People question whether you can win games.

"The celebrations at the end were more to do with coming back after a really difficult couple of weeks than anything else."

NME

[rondwisan]

setelah Oom Scholes mendapatkan perpanjangan kontrak ..., Oom Gary pun got another year with United ...
hmmm ....

balik lagi nih ..., gak tau mo hepi or sedih ... [confused mode : ON]

jangan sering2x bikin blunder yg merugikan team aja deh Oom-Oom semua ... :peace:

[rian4]

kayaknya mereka sampe mati di MU ya... :thumbup:

[Redsbusby]

Scholes replacement ???

Vote for ..... Tom Cleverley :D

Muda , produktif (untuk ukuran seorang pemain tengah) , dribbling keren + passing mantap (dalam standard Championship Division ) dan yg jelas ..... tackling nya jauh lebih bagus dr Scholes coz posisi asli Cleverley sebelumnya dalah full back

*penilaian hanya didasarkan penilaian beberapa forum pengemar United + klip2 d Youtube

ASLI!! Tackling nya jauh lebih bagus dari Scholes:>:>


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[rondwisan]

Opa Fergie di MEN :

The old guard of Gary Neville, Ryan Giggs and Paul Scholes who have all signed up for another 12 months at Old Trafford remain paramount to Fergie's building strategy.

"Neville, Scholes and Giggs have become very important but this could be their last year," added Fergie.

"You cannot guarantee at their age they will carry on much longer. But at the moment their experience combined with the young players coming through who are playing on a regular basis it is a good mixture.

"The younger ones will benefit from that and in two or three years become your regular players.

"We have a reasonable structure in terms of ages. We have a good nucleus of players."

[Redsbusby]

Opa Fergie di MEN :

It shows us how crucial they are for the team, especially youngster....

[unitedreservecoach]

Mungkin perlu dipertimbangkan agar Giggs, Scholes dan Neville diangkat menjadi staff pelatih jika seandainya mereka memutuskan pensiun. Hal ini diharapkan dapat memberikan semangat dan motivasi kepada pemain muda MU lainnya, mengingat dengan pengalaman yang telah dimiliki selama bertahun-tahun, tentunya mereka sangat dihormati dan disegani oleh pemain muda MU lainnya.

Setuju biar ada sukesor Ole dan di konsentrasikan di academy untuk membina pemain muda

[Redsbusby]

Setuju biar ada sukesor Ole dan di konsentrasikan di academy untuk membina pemain muda

Seperti yg dilakukan Barcelona.. meski belum tentu sama prestasinya kalo nerapin hal yg sama, but Who knows?:D:D

[hendiplast]

Paul Scholes, Ryan Giggs and Gary Neville offered coaching roles at Manchester United

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Sir Alex Fegruson will ask Paul Scholes, Ryan Giggs and Gary Neville to stay at Manchester United as coaches once their playing days are over.

All three have signed one-year deals that take them to the end of next season but Ferguson is convinced the trio can inspire the next generation of local talent.

'They are the living proof for young players that the United system allows players to succeed,' said Ferguson. 'When they stop playing, they will stay. All three are taking their coaching diplomas. I don't think the club will pass up that much experience.'

Ferguson is already planning for a future without Rio Ferdinand and Wes Brown, which is why he spent £10million on 20-year-old Chris Smalling from Fulham. His recruitment policy looks to the long term.

'I am always thinking one or two seasons ahead,' he said. 'I anticipate over time the departures of the souls of the club, and the likes of Rio Ferdinand and Wes Brown, who are over 30. Nemanja Vidic has had some physical problems.

'Chris Smalling has huge potential as a centre-half, and he's only 20. In two or three years' time he'll be at the top. As for Mame Biram Diouf, you have to watch hundreds of strikers before you find one who can win matches. When you find him, you sign him.'

In an interview with French newspaper L'Equipe, Ferguson earmarked Patrice Evra, John O'Shea and Darren Fletcher as team leaders of the future.

'Evra is a powerful force as a leader of the dressing room,' he said. He also shrugged off concerns about United's £700m debt, insisting the sporting health of the club was in good shape.

'Protesting has become a reflex action these days,' he said. 'There are fans protesting against (club owners) the Glazers, which doesn't bother me because it doesn't interfere with the team. The fans love their club here and they are worried. I don't share their worry. I have a talented squad, a superb training complex, a magnificent stadium. We're fighting for the biggest titles every season. So it's easy for me to keep my distance from all these issues.'

Ferguson, 68, also put talk of retirement firmly on the backburner, and revealed that he passed his most recent six-monthly health check with flying colours. 'Everything's fine,' he added.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/

[hendiplast]

Giggs, Neville and Scholes have earned deals - Harrison

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Sir Alex Ferguson has received some criticism for signing up his Dad’s Army for another 12 months.

The Reds boss has rubber-stamped new deals for Ryan Giggs, Gary Neville and Paul Scholes – all survivors of the legendary Class of ’92.

But the man who helped mastermind their development insists the veteran trio are still at Old Trafford on merit.

Former United youth boss Eric Harrison told M.E.N. Sport: “There is no chance they have been given new contracts out of sentiment.

“I have known Sir Alex a long time and he doesn’t work that way. In top, top-flight professional football you cannot work on sentiment. He has never been like that.

“Sir Alex has rewarded them for the part they can play in helping him and the team in the future not for what they have done in the past.

“On the field they are extremely important players still and off the field they can help enormously. They are a great inspiration to the younger players.

“I have seen how younger players respond to them and how they help them.

“I was in an England dressing room once and Tottenham’s David Bentley was telling me how he wanted to be like David Beckham on the pitch but he was also saying how Becks helped him off the field.

“Despite the fact Bentley had taken David’s place in the England team at the time, he was still offering him little bits of advice on the training ground.

“That was great to hear and it is the same with his ex-United team-mates, they all understand the role of senior players.

“It is not all about the 90 minutes the fans see on the pitch. I cannot understand any United fan who doesn’t believe Giggs, Neville and Scholes should have been kept on.”

Between them the Three Amigos have won over 60 coveted medals. So what keeps them going?

Determination

“Talent is one thing but determination and dedication are the two extra watchwords that make the big difference,” added Harrison.

“Unless you have dedication and determination then you will never have a career like those three guys.

“If any of them had been lacking in one of those departments then they wouldn’t be still up where they are now.

“They were a very easy group to coach as a youth team. There were no slackers.

“It wasn’t just the three who are still at United but it was Nicky Butt, Beckham, Phil Neville, Keith Gillespie and Robbie Savage, for example. They all put in the hours.

“The whole object in life was to play in Manchester United’s first team and it drove them all on. Every single day it wasn’t so much a battle to be top dog but they wanted to let me and the manager know that they were going places.

“It was a competitive atmosphere. There was no chance that you could drop your input and still think you could make it.

“If ever you thought you’d made it then you would be history at United. It wasn’t a fear factor. They didn’t come in every day scared to death but they knew the demands and responded.

“That environment built into them this attitude that has kept them going well into their 30s.

“I have seen some very, very talented players elsewhere who were naturally gifted but because they didn’t have the dedication and determination to match they wasted their careers and finished earlier than they should have done.

“That’s criminal. I cannot believe how stupid they would be to do that. Relying on your God-given talent alone is not enough at the very top of football.

“The work ethic and dedication is the whole ethos of Manchester United and why those players are still performing now at the age they are.

“I went over to see David Beckham in Milan and he says AC are exactly the same as United and is why a player like Paolo Maldini didn’t retire until he was in his 40s.

“The training routines are fashioned around keeping the players going.

“It is no coincidence that so many of that United Class of ’92 are still playing now past their mid-30s.”

Harrison was taking part in a McDonald’s Football Open Day on Saturday at Broughton Park Rugby Club – one of many free family and community football days taking place around the country this summer.

Organised by McDonald’s franchisee Roger Khoryati and Hough End Juniors FC, the Open Day offered families throughout Manchester the once-in-a-lifetime chance to have their skills seen by one of the most celebrated coaches in the English game.

The event formed part of McDonald’s Community partnership with The FA/Scottish FA/IFA/Welsh Football Trust.

NME

[ferly_Liemz]

Gw harap musim 10/11 akan jadi musim terakhir trio macan..bukan gw gak cinta mereka,tapi ini yg terbaik buat mereka,youngster dan klub....

Dan akan sangat indah dan mengharukan bila trio macan plus vds menutup karier dengan treble atau minimal gelar ucl...
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[devil_dee]

wah ga berasa yah dah 13 taon ngeliat mereka main buat united
dr mereka masih gesit, smpe akhirnya faktor usia yg ga bisa ngebohongin
next season klo jd season terakhir buat mereka, mdh2an ditutup dgn manis
dan saya pasti akan selalu merindukan om2 ini, esp om giggs
pasti awal2 akan berasa ada yg kurang liat united main tanpa mereka
but mereka akan selalu ada di hati, loyalitasnya luar biasa :)

[Redsbusby]

Moga aja penerus mereka Musim ini bakal bisa mateng, atau setidaknya uda bisa gantiin mereka bertiga. Kan buat peremajaan. Ngga bisa donk terus pertahananin mereka tp penerus mereka ngga ada kemajuan... Bakal jadi musim yg dramatis nih musim ini, mengingat kontrak mereka jg habis musim ini... Para Old Masters yg Luar biasa!!!!:champ:

[rondwisan]

Gw harap musim 10/11 akan jadi musim terakhir trio macan..bukan gw gak cinta mereka,tapi ini yg terbaik buat mereka,youngster dan klub....

Dan akan sangat indah dan mengharukan bila trio macan plus vds menutup karier dengan treble atau minimal gelar ucl...
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yup Sob ...
apalagi Oom Gary akan mengawali musim ini dengan (kembali) cedera :(
i think enough is enough ... :peace:

[Supernan]

Kita bakal melihat musim terakhirnya Scholesy nih di 2010-2011. Giggs blum memutuskan sampai kapan, yup Gary terlihat bakal tutup karir di musim ini juga. Dengan cedera awal di musim ini,indikasi lebih trio macam ini bakal segera gantung sepatu,but kontribusi mereka dan pengalaman mereka pasti berbicara di musim baru nanti.

[marsel david]

2010-2011 seperti kata Oom Supernan kayaknya emang bakal jadi musim trakhirnya buat Scholes and Gary
walau sudah menjelang masa pensiun
tapi ga biasa dipungkiri kalo kontribusi, dan pengalaman mereka untuk United dan para punggawa yang lain luar biasa besar
jadi ga kebayang gw kalo United tanpa mereka kalau nanti mereka dah pensiun

[rondwisan]

sebenrnya yang jadi concern adalah ..., klo emang mereka masih berada di OT dan Opa Alex masih suka roman2xan ..., maka kesempatan talenta2x muda yg ada akan berkurang kesempatannya untuk ditampilkan ...

inget2x aja di musim lalu
berapa kali Oom-oom di atas maen langsung as starter ..., hehehe ... :peace:

[marsel david]

sebenrnya yang jadi concern adalah ..., klo emang mereka masih berada di OT dan Opa Alex masih suka roman2xan ..., maka kesempatan talenta2x muda yg ada akan berkurang kesempatannya untuk ditampilkan ...

inget2x aja di musim lalu
berapa kali Oom-oom di atas maen langsung as starter ..., hehehe ... :peace:

Iya sih sebenernya bener juga kalo Oom-oom masih pada maen ato masih ada di United kesempatan talenta muda berkurang
para pemain muda turun as starter paling kalo Oom-oom yang terhormat lagi pada cedera
tapi sebenernya keberadaan dan pengalaman mereka menurut gw sangat berpengaruh pada team terutama untuk para pemain muda baik di dalam lapangan dan di ruang ganti walaupun mereka banyak diparkir di bench alias ga diturunkan sebagai starter

heheheV^^

[Redsbusby]

Yup..GImana pun juga, Pengalaman mereka sangat dan sangat dibuthin. Jgn sampe kyk arsenal, cuma bakat doank pemain muda tp klo uda masuk saat2 dimana tekanan dan tuntutan semakin besar, harus bingung mau ngapain, bingung bagaimana ngehadepin situasi demikian. jadi, selama masih bisa berprestasi dan seimbang antara tua dan muda, Why Not? bisa sampe kapan-kapan :D

[sellamanyaunited]

ya iya setuju sama semuanya pemain muda dan senior emang dibutuhin biar kalo sikon tertentu mereka bisa belajar dari pendahulu mereka . musim ini musim terakhir scholes? aduh kagum ama pemain model scholes dan giggsy mengabdikan karier sepakbola mereka dari muda-sekarang setia diunited :D :D
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[fredrian.seven]

Ada artikel menarik tentang 4 sesepuh united.

dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/188977/Sir-Alex-Ferguson-must-replace-Manchester-United-s-antique-aces/

Moga musim ini peran old masters itu mulai dapat digantikan pemaen lain, jadi saat mereka musti pensiun United sudah siap ditinggal karena pengganti sudah siap.
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[melvin gusman]

gary neville, giggs n scholes bakal jadi the new sir bobby,dubes untuk man united. kalo perlu jadi talent scout ato pelatih tim junior menggantikan 20le yg naek pangkat jd pelatih tim senior setelah opa fergie pensiun (ngarep mode on)

[Oncy]

Hingga saatnya para senior itu merasa cukup, dan SAF rela+ikhlas melepas mereka...

[rondwisan]

Oom Scholes masih menunjukkan kapasitasnya ...
pakde Giggs, meski bbrp kali bikin geregetan ..., masih aja mempertajam rekor goal each seasonnya ...

[red_devilz]

Prediksi ane , di akhir musim nanti Om Gary Neville ( + Owen Hargreaves ) akan pensiun , sementara Om Paul Scholes + Om Ryan Giggs akan diperpanjang lagi kontraknya selama 1 musim :D

[rondwisan]

semalem ngarep Oom Giggs gak akan maen full 90 menit ....
tapi ternyata Opa masih menahan doi di lapangan ampe peluit akhir ...
rasanya umur gak bisa dibohongi yaa ...
meski masih sempet menang sprint ..., but rasanya kok malah kasihan yaa ..., hikss :(

[fredrian.seven]

Sama sam..aku juga kasihan. Kasihan giggs juga united. Gimana youngster bisa gantiin klo mereka nggak dapet kesempatan. Pas unggul 3-0 aku berharap youngster dapet kesempatan tapi fergie malah mutusin giggs maen full.
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[and1]

kan slot 3 subtitute semalem buat debut smalling di EPL, kesempatan maen buat owen & carrick yg di 2 match pertama jarang dpt kesempatan

[Ucup Carrick]

scholes justru makin vital belakangan ini....
walah....nunggu matengnya gibson atau beli pemain baru nih setelah ozil gagal...

[sellamanyaunited]

ini suksesor giggs ama scholes udah mateng belom?
kalo belom bisa berabe nih pas sholes ama giggs pensiun

[fredrian.seven]

nggak tau juga mbak sella. Sejauh ini kesempatan buat pemaen muda masih minim.blom bisa dinilai mateng atau nggak. Mungkin ntar pas piala carling bisa dilihat gimana performa mereka.
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[sellamanyaunited]

ooh begitu ya om fred?
oke deh ditunggu kalo pemain muda masuk ke skuad inti dalam EPL agak riskan juga, aturan opa beli aja tuh pemain tengah yg lumayan mateng buat gantiin scholes ama giggs, berasa banget united ada yg kurang kl gak ada mereka.
tapi denger2 cleverley bagus ya? sayang mau dipinjemin ke wigan.
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[erin]

semalem ngarep Oom Giggs gak akan maen full 90 menit ....
tapi ternyata Opa masih menahan doi di lapangan ampe peluit akhir ...
rasanya umur gak bisa dibohongi yaa ...
meski masih sempet menang sprint ..., but rasanya kok malah kasihan yaa ..., hikss :(

ia opa..
kirain valencia bakal gantiin masuk..
taunya giggs smpe akhir..
pas menit 70-an udh rada susah tuh,sering hilang bola juga..
tp masih salut ma spiritnya...^:)^
:thumbup:

[Andi Istiabudi]

Sir Alex Ferguson lagi fokus meraih rekor 19 kali juara EPL sehingga kontribusi pemain senior masih sangat diharapkannya musim ini meskipun harus diakui usia dan kondisi mereka tidak bisa dibohongi lagi.

[Max25]

selain scholesy yang terus menanjak performanya, juga melihat proses dribling dan gocekan giggs selama match vs west ham oke banged jd inget 90an ... =((
ditambah driblingnya sblm dijatuhkan spector, tipikal giggs banged ... ;)

giggs waktu vs fulham cuma tampil beberapa menit yah .., mungkin SAF memberikan kesempatan dgn perhitungannya .., termasuk mencadangkan valencia ... 8->

[sellamanyaunited]

iya iya persaingan liga inggris ketat banget, kalo ngambil pemain muda sekedar regenerasi susah juga ntar malah kehilangan poin2 penting.
gue sih mikir aturan fergie beli 1 pemain muda mateng yg udah biasa main buat lini tengah sekalian suksesor giggs ama scholes
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[Supernan]

ahhh gila passing Scholes ke Giggs bner" passing kelas jadoel!!! Gokil kelasss dunia!!! Bola nyamperin pemaen bukan pemaen nyamperin bola.....akurat bngt yaq!? :)

[pweechevalier]

ahhh gila passing Scholes ke Giggs bner" passing kelas jadoel!!! Gokil kelasss dunia!!! Bola nyamperin pemaen bukan pemaen nyamperin bola.....akurat bngt yaq!? :)

Setuju...
Gw juga gak habis pikir waktu kemaren lawan Westham...
Berapa kali coba Scholes passing jauh ke depan, entah ke Giggs atau ke Nani...kadang ke Evra...
Kok gak ada yg meleset ya??? :confusing:
Takjub gw... :mudance:

wisnu cimol

[Wengge Schmeichel]

Old Master????
Sampe akhir menutup mata.....
Scholesy 18 LEGEND

[Supernan]

Apa lagi pas mereka tackle berdua!!! GILA ITU BIKIN gw nangis hahaha lebeiiii :P :hammer: udh kek Tachibana Bersaudara :))

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[hendiplast]

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Class :D

[rondwisan]

Golden Oldies
manutd.theoffside.com, Ian - September 8th, 2010

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A few bits of United news have surfaced in recent days, all following a similar theme. Ivor’s post below details the latest rumours of Ryan Giggs being involved in the management of the Welsh team in some form, despite still churning out excellent performances for United. The monthly poll on ManUtd.com named Paul Scholes as player of the month for August. And it has been reported that Edwin van der Sar will be offered a one-year contract extension if he plays 30 games this term. Rooney has been generating the headlines for England, for both right and questionable reasons, but it’s United’s old guys who have been earning the column inches.

Speaking as a Welshman, I have no desire to see Giggs in the Welsh set-up, not yet anyway. That would purely be a distraction from United and as Giggs’ anti-ageing deal with the devil is constantly renewed, he still very much deserves to be there. Scholes recently stated in an interview that this time last season he wasn’t considering his football to be of an acceptable standard and didn’t think the 2010/2011 season would involve him. Although his tackling is still so bad its almost funny, his overall game certainly merited his inclusion this term. And the August player of the month award proves this.

As for van der Sar, if his form continues as it is, I wouldn’t bet against a renewed deal, despite his age. It would take him past his 41st birthday, but who cares? He can still pull off top-class saves every week and if he needs the occasional rest, who would deny him? The manager is very adept at balancing the important games with the inclusion on the team sheet of Giggs, Scholes and Neville, so one more in that clan can surely be managed.

All three’s Reds deserve the accolades they are being given for still playing as exceptionally as ever in their later years. But there is an issue here. It will be a very sad day when these players retire, but it will happen one day. I can’t help but wondering if the supposed new deal for van der Sar shows a little uncertainty in the manager of his other keepers abilities. Not quite the same situation for Giggs and Scholes as there is more depth in the midfield. But I have a nagging thought in my mind that as these players finally slow down, it will be almost impossible to replace them, not because there are no talented footballers out there, but because there is no one yet ready to step into their shoes as talismans.

[id4y]

The remaining of class 92 are still the best..sallute..!!!
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[Redsbusby]

Old Master..
Sampe mereka bener-bner habis dan Suksesornya uda siap lahir bathin :thumbup::thumbup:

[rondwisan]

yah ..., sabtu sore kemaren ...
Trio Macan kembali dipercaya Opa Alex as starter ..., 'n yess, they played 93 minutes :hammer::hammer:
sayang hasilnya tidak seperti yg diharapkan ... :(

[drivemein]

Fergie fears trio retirement
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United boss admits veterans may be expensive to replace.

Sir Alex Ferguson has admitted Manchester United may have to dig deep to replace the old guard.

For the second summer running, Ferguson has opted not to spend heavily in the transfer market.

United are yet to make a high-profile signing since the departure of Cristiano Ronaldo and Carlos Tevez last year, with United having invested in excess of £20million to capture Javier Hernandez, Chris Smalling and Bebe this summer.

Ferguson's thrifty approach has led to accusations he is being handicapped by the huge debts incurred by the Glazer family, something both he and chief executive David Gill have repeatedly denied.

The United boss feels the Red Devils have enough youngsters coming through at present to do the business.

However, Ferguson accepts he may have to splash out once veterans Ryan Giggs, Paul Scholes and Gary Neville hang up their boots.

"We are not at the point where we have to go overboard to get the best player in the world," he said.

"There are enough really top players in the club at the moment.

Stretch

"There may be a time in the next couple of years where we have to stretch ourselves, particularly when Ryan, Paul and Gary retire.

"Then, it is a possibility we would need to get really top players in to galvanise the younger ones coming through.

"But at the moment we have the experience. We have players who have been through the whole gamut of emotions at this club and know how to deal with it."

While Manchester City and Real Madrid have been by far the busiest clubs in the transfer market over the last 18 months, Ferguson insists he has money to spend if he feels his squad is not up to scratch.

One target

"We have no financial restrictions," he said. "If I hadn't been confident maybe we would have done something.

"But there was only one player I would have brought here and that move was sealed off quite early by the club he went to.

"The best thing we can do until the market becomes more sensible is produce or buy young players and develop them in the club.

"By doing that we are easily securing the next eight years at Manchester United."

[rondwisan]

Ferguson still has faith in golden oldies
ESPNsoccernet - September 13, 2010

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Sir Alex Ferguson says Manchester United will only need to "go overboard" in the transfer market when the likes of Ryan Giggs and Paul Scholes retire.

Despite missing out on the Premier League and Champions League last season, United decided against bringing in established players and instead went for young talents such as Javier Hernandez, Chris Smalling and Bebe.

United have fallen four points behind league leaders Chelsea this season after dropping points against Fulham and Everton but, with veterans Scholes, Giggs and Gary Neville all still involved in the first team, Ferguson remains convinced the squad is able to compete at the highest level.

"We are not at the point where we have to go overboard to get the best player in the world," he said. "There are enough really top players in the club at the moment.

"There may be a time in the next couple of years where we have to stretch ourselves, particularly when Ryan, Paul and Gary retire. Then, it is a possibility we would need to get really top players in to galvanise the younger ones coming through, but at the moment we have the experience.

"We have players who have been through the whole gamut of emotions at this club and know how to deal with it."

It has been suggested on many occasions that United's owners have restricted the funds available to Ferguson, but he insists he was ready to spend if the right opportunity had arisen.

"We have no financial restrictions," he said. "If I hadn't been confident, maybe we would have done something, but there was only one player I would have brought here and that move was sealed off quite early by the club he went to.

"The best thing we can do until the market becomes more sensible is produce or buy young players and develop them in the club. By doing that, we are easily securing the next eight years at Manchester United."

Ferguson also said that, despite the late collapses against Fulham and Everton, United remain a strong defensive unit. "We don't have frailties," he said. "It has been a lack of concentration in our defending."

[fredrian.seven]

Masih percaya jago tua atau belum percaya pada yang muda? Salut buat trio jago tua karena masih bisa bertahan di tim utama tapi juga sedikit kecewa kenapa yang muda belum dikasih kepercayaan setidaknya sebagai pengganti.
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[ferly_Liemz]

Gary sepertinya mulai tergeser,meski gw lbh berharap rafael yg geser,bukannya oshea :peace:

Dan scholes musim ini seperti lagi "puber" kedua di mana sedang on form bgt dia musim ini..

Dan giggs harus gw akui semakin menurun sekali..

Vds saja yg konsisten,tp ingat,dia jg manusia yg bisa tua,bukan superman yg selalu hebat..

Intinya...
Segera regenerasi!!
Mereka para youngster di beli buat dia pakai toh,bukan buat di koleksi aja..jgn maksain yg sudah berumur untuk main 90 menit terus2an...

Plis SAF...jgn sampai telat regenerasinya...
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[rondwisan]

sepertinya Opa udah mulai kurang pede untuk segera regenerasi yaa ...
apa tuntutan pribadinya akan title EPL ke 19 serta UCL ke 4 jadi beban tersendiri
klo sebelumnya khan (era 90-an) seperti nothing to loose gitu ...
sekarang kok berat gitu ..., pdhl Rafael pun udah pantes untuk reguler
yah semoga ntar di Mestalla gak ada formasi sport jantung
klo Scholes diturunin lagi ..., hmmm ..., kasihan bener ...
klo Gary maen ..., hmmm ..., siap2x jantung berdegup kencang ... :hammer::hammer:

[rondwisan]

07/10/2010 08:23 - ManUtd.com, James Tuck
Berba's respect for Reds trio

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Dimitar Berbatov has added his name to the long list of admirers of team-mates Ryan Giggs, Paul Scholes and Gary Neville.

The Reds trio are regularly praised for their continuing ability to perform at the highest level in their mid-thirties.

Berbatov has seen first-hand the dedicated way United’s veteran stars have gone about prolonging their careers, though he doesn’t expect to be able to emulate them.

When Inside United asked the in-form 29-year-old whether he could still see himself playing in five years, he joked: “Me? At 35? No way!

"Seriously, though, everyone is different and you have to know your body is giving you the signals to stop. Having been here for two seasons, I know why Giggs, Scholes, Neville have been here for so long and why they are still playing. Here they have the facilities and the coaching staff who know how to prepare you.

"Obviously you need to focus on the football and when you go home, you have to be professional and know how to live your life. I see all these things in these three guys, especially.

"They are still playing at the highest level, so I think to myself, ‘Can I do that?’ If not, then at least try to see how long I can play for. But when your body tells you, that’s when you have to stop and not make a fool of yourself."

After Berbatov’s stellar start to the season, Reds fans everywhere will be hoping that day isn't coming any time soon.

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[Sheyro_07Seven]

Ryan Giggs, Paul Scholes and Gary Neville "Will Never Die for United",.!!!!!!:army::army::army:

[Andi Istiabudi]

Trio United Ditawari Gaji Tinggi Klub Dubai

Bola.net - Kabar terhangat datang Inggris, dan menghubungkannya dengan Timur Tengah, Trio veteran Manchester United kabarnya siap diboyong keluar dari Old Trafford oleh klub negara Uni Emirate Arab.

Klub Dubai, Al Ahly, disebut siap menyodorkan kontrak gaji 200 ribu Poundsterling per pekan untuk Ryan Giggs, tidak hanya itu mereka juga bermaksud mengajak kompatriot Giggsy, Paul Scholes, serta Gary Neville.

Hal ini ternyata diotaki oleh David O'Leary pelatih Al Ahly yang dulu pernah menjadi tokoh sentral kehebatan strategi Leeds United selama masih berkecimpung di Premier League, ia ingin memboyong ketiganya pada musim panas tahun depan.

Sebuah sumber dari dalam tubuh United mengungkapkan, "Ryan adalah legenda bagi United, dan masih menjadi bagian penting dari klub ini, namun sama halnya dengan Gary dan Paul, mereka tidak bisa tinggal untuk selamanya,"

"Dia memang selalu menolak untuk pindah, namun ini sungguh tawaran yang menarik untuk menutup karirnya, setidaknya ada bayaran tinggi meski di sana terik,"

"Sama halnya untuk Gary dan juga Neville,"

Giggs kini berumur 36 tahun, Scholes, 35 tahun, begitu juga Gary 35 tahun, dan semua orang ini akan berakhir kontraknya pada musim panas mendatang.

Jika ketiganya mau bergabung ke Al Ahly, maka mereka akan bertemu dengan pemain veteran lain di sana, yakni mantan bek Juventus, Fabio Cannavaro.

Gaji yang bisa diperoleh di sana begitu tinggi, bahkan tanpa harus menanggung pajak besar seperti di Inggris, Cannavaro bertutur, "Saya selalu berpikir saya akan bahagia jika bisa hidup di Dubai, dan ternyata saya bisa mewujudkan mimpi saya,"

Ketiga pemain United itu sendiri sudah tidak asing dengan Dubai, mereka pernah berlibur ke sana untuk menikmati keindahan kota itu, bahkan Gary Neville pun sudah memiliki sebuah properti di sana. (sun/lex)

Source : http://www.bola.net

[finza_13]

Al Ahly mau borong pemain nih,kalau ex tim lain mungkin mau aja tuh dapet duit gede di masa pensiun,tp rasanya trio United akan dengan tegas menolak.United till die

"Ryan adalah legenda bagi United, dan masih menjadi bagian penting dari klub ini, namun sama halnya dengan Gary dan Paul, mereka tidak bisa tinggal untuk selamanya,"

like this :)>-

[hendiplast]

Faith in Ryan Giggs and Paul Scholes is correct but cannot be enduring
Should Manchester United win a 19th title this season they will have taken a markedly different route to eclipsing Liverpool's record

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Try this for a quiz question. What do Graeme Souness, Terry McDermott, Mark Lawrenson, John Aldridge and Ray and Alan Kennedy all have in common? Apart from playing for Liverpool at the height of their success and contributing to the record 18 titles that Manchester United are now on the verge of overhauling.

The answer is that all of them were moved on to other clubs at the same age, roughly 31. Even Emlyn Hughes only stuck around at Anfield until he was 32. Liverpool in the 70s and 80s were widely admired for their businesslike knack of extracting the best years from a player then shipping him out while he still had a little shelf life remaining. When coupled with an equally slick facility for finding quality replacements and having them ready to step up exactly when needed, Liverpool at the time appeared to have found the blueprint for continued, seamless success. The faces would change but the style of play and the winning ethos remained the same. That, as Dire Straits were singing at around the same time, is the way you do it.

Or it used to be. Should Manchester United win a 19th title this season they will have taken a markedly different route to achieving the same consistency. At the age of 37 Ryan Giggs has just signed a contract extension to cover next season, and Paul Scholes, one year younger, is thought to be about to do the same. Sir Alex Ferguson certainly wants him to, and with United reportedly willing to pay him £60,000 per week it appears Oldham Athletic's hopes may be dashed once again.

These are not just players who were involved in the historic treble campaign of 12 years ago, they are players who began their United careers in the early 90s. Giggs made his league debut 20 years ago on Wednesday and has been a virtual ever-present since the 1991‑92 season, when Howard Wilkinson's Leeds kept Ferguson waiting for his first title, while Scholes came to the fore in 1994-95, when there were still 22 teams in the Premier League and the top three at the end of the season were Blackburn, United and Nottingham Forest.

Watching the United midfield's laboured attempts to break down Marseille in midweek it could be readily understood why Ferguson still feels he needs the creative input of Scholes and Giggs – even at their present ages they appear to have more to offer than Darron Gibson and Michael Carrick – yet it still came as something of a shock to work out that when Wayne Rooney offered the excuse that "a few big players were missing", he must have been referring to a duo whose careers seemed to be drawing to a close several years ago.

Giggs, in particular, is playing better now than he was in his early 30s. He has not quite travelled full circle to rediscover the exhilarating freedom of his youth, but he has refined his game to focus on what he can still do to good effect and become a more economical and effective player in the process. A section of the Old Trafford crowd used to be on Giggs's back a few years ago, moaning that he took too many wrong options, failed to see the killer pass and frequently misdirected his final ball. Now Giggs has corrected most of those faults United fans want to see as much of him as they can, knowing that this legend is now as large and as valid as anything from the club's illustrious past.

Scholes is regarded in much the same way, though it is hard to argue the midfielder is playing some of the best football of his career at the moment. By his own admission, he isn't, and neither is he scoring as many goals as he used to, largely because he is playing deeper. If he is still seen as United's best midfielder it is because the competition in that department has yet to match his peerless standards. Scholes stands out more due to the relative ordinariness of the players around him. United keep assuming he will fade into the background then realising they still need him.

And this is the team that could topple the Liverpool record. The team that could finally count out Chelsea's wavering defence of the title with victory at Stamford Bridge on Tuesday. Chelsea's loss to Liverpool this month means the game can no longer be seen as the title showdown Carlo Ancelotti had been hoping, but with Arsenal in such close pursuit United can ill afford to drop points anywhere. Their away record is a recognised weak point this season, the leaders have to travel to Liverpool as well as Chelsea in the next eight days, and as long as Arsenal can keep in touch at the top they can look forward to a May Day meeting with United at the Emirates that could go a long way to deciding where the title ends up.

If events do work out that way, attention is more or less bound to focus on the irresistible subplot involving Scholes and Jack Wilshere, two players who are not only similar to each other in style and temperament but have been singled out by their peers as the best of their generation. Only time will establish whether Wilshere really is the new Scholes, but time is certainly on his side. Ferguson must wish he had Scholes aged 19 all over again. True, the United man has all the experience, but football is essentially a young man's game and Ferguson surely cannot keep turning to the same players. That is precisely what he did two years ago, when to general surprise he used Giggs and Scholes in the 2009 Champions League final, only for United to lose quite badly. A Scholes goal had been enough to dismiss Barcelona the previous season, but the Catalans were all over United in Rome.

Not even the most remarkable careers can go on for ever. United, like Chelsea, appear in danger of being caught out by diminishing returns, and when you can spot the signs it is usually too late. While Arsenal may not catch up this season, at least they know how to replenish.

Wenger's simple recipe for success

Today's two Wembley managers know each other of old. When Alex McLeish left Rangers in 2006 declaring he could never manage another Scottish club, he awarded himself a sabbatical and went around the world studying management in different sports.

The only English football club he chose to visit was Arsenal, where Arsène Wenger made him welcome. He felt he already knew so much about Sir Alex Ferguson and his methods there was little point spending any more time at Manchester United, so he went to see his old pal's greatest rival, the Frenchman who had interrupted United's success with three titles and a couple of doubles in his first decade in England.

"Arsène treated me very well, and told me something significant," the Birmingham City manager recalls. "I asked him what makes a great manager, and he gave me the answer straight away. 'Great players,' is all he said. He's good at the one liners and I was tempted to laugh, but it happens to be true. It's spotting the talent, isn't it? Arsène's done very well at that over the years."

Guardian

[ferly_Liemz]

Gary sudah pensiun... VDS musim ini pensiun...

Saepertinya giggs atau paul akan menjadikan musim depan sebagai musim terakhir mereka...

Ingin rasanya United mempersembahkan treble untuk keempat Legenda ini...

Amin...
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[Blacklist7]

Maaf klo OOT... klo ada yg dapet kabar siaran live Gary Neville Testimonial match vs Juventus, saya dikabarin ya???

syukur syukur ada yg punya file HD nya... biar bisa disimpan... hehehehe buat cerita anak cucu...

VDS ada Testimonial Match nya ga ya??? Giggs??? hehehehe