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Yahh kira- kira kalau mereka berdua jadi join kan bisa main bareng. Jadi ini komparasinya jadi titik tolak jika kita mau menantikan sesuatu yang hebat dari mereka.

Bisa jadi kalau mereka TA & KS gabung komposisi skuad akan jadi begini:

Carrick - Strootman
Zaha/Thiago - Kagawa - Rooney/Thiago
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Kalo Strootman ama Thiago gabung, posisi Carrick ama Strootman bisa rotasi tergantung kondisi pemain, kalo dua2 nya fit Carrick kemungkinan besar berpeluang lebih besar bersama Thiago ditengah..
Bisa aja Carrick ama Strootman duet di tengah pada saat laga yang ketat ato lawan tim dengan Midfielf yang kuat, Thiago bisa bermain dibelakang Striker, itu pun liat kondisi Kagawa, siapa yang start itu kondisional, sapa yang lebih fit ato sapa yang lebih cocok dengan tipe lawan..
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Masalah nya sekarang apa semudah itu Barca bakal melepas Thiago ? secara doi aset masa depan mereka dimana Xavi juga ngga muda lagi, bisa aja sih Thiago diming2 bakal dapat porsi bermain yang lebih banyak nanti...
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Kalo Strootman ama Thiago gabung, posisi Carrick ama Strootman bisa rotasi tergantung kondisi pemain, kalo dua2 nya fit Carrick kemungkinan besar berpeluang lebih besar bersama Thiago ditengah..
Bisa aja Carrick ama Strootman duet di tengah pada saat laga yang ketat ato lawan tim dengan Midfielf yang kuat, Thiago bisa bermain dibelakang Striker, itu pun liat kondisi Kagawa, siapa yang start itu kondisional, sapa yang lebih fit ato sapa yang lebih cocok dengan tipe lawan..
Intinya gabung dulu, masalah rotasi akan jadi lebih simple kedepannya.

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Masalah nya sekarang apa semudah itu Barca bakal melepas Thiago ? secara doi aset masa depan mereka dimana Xavi juga ngga muda lagi, bisa aja sih Thiago diming2 bakal dapat porsi bermain yang lebih banyak nanti...
Nahhh itu dia om, tapi ingat juga masih ada Fabregas yang masih muda dan yang lebih mungkin menjadi tandem Iniesta.
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Nahhh itu dia om, tapi ingat juga masih ada Fabregas yang masih muda dan yang lebih mungkin menjadi tandem Iniesta.
Kalo Fabregas gw gak liat dia bakal jadi saingan sebagai pengganti Xavi secara Fabregas terlalu attack minded, posisi terbaik AM dan deep striker, sementara Thiago posisi CM/AM dan posisi terbaik nya deep lying midfielder seperti role Xavi
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kalo ga salah, posisi awalnya emg deep lying midfield, tp saingannya manusia 1/4 dewa, Xavi Hernandez, jadilah dia diposisikan di tempat yang lain...

lalu kalo dia ditempatkan di posisi aslinya daaaann tampil bagus, ga aneh...

akan mnjadi hal aneh kalo ga jadi dibeli 18juta doank
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Kalo Fabregas gw gak liat dia bakal jadi saingan sebagai pengganti Xavi secara Fabregas terlalu attack minded, posisi terbaik AM dan deep striker, sementara Thiago posisi CM/AM dan posisi terbaik nya deep lying midfielder seperti role Xavi
Benar Thiago itu bakat oke yang akan semakin oke jika gabung United, tapi dipikiran ane masih mengganggu beberapa hal mengenai posisi dimana dia nanti akan bermain. Kita punya Tom Cleverley & Anderson serta Kagawa juga yang main diposisi Thiago biasa main, Sudah dipost di page sebelum perbandingan Thiago- Clev & Ando



Malah sudah sedikit membayangkan komposisi skuad United dengan hadirnya Thiago. Hanya berandai- andai jika Anderson dijual, pikiran yang mengganggu itu sepertinya akan hilang. Rumor Anderson dijual kok belum kencang yah?
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Benar Thiago itu bakat oke yang akan semakin oke jika gabung United, tapi dipikiran ane masih mengganggu beberapa hal mengenai posisi dimana dia nanti akan bermain. Kita punya Tom Cleverley & Anderson serta Kagawa juga yang main diposisi Thiago biasa main, Sudah dipost di page sebelum perbandingan Thiago- Clev & Ando



Malah sudah sedikit membayangkan komposisi skuad United dengan hadirnya Thiago. Hanya berandai- andai jika Anderson dijual, pikiran yang mengganggu itu sepertinya akan hilang. Rumor Anderson dijual kok belum kencang yah?
Anderson :
Dia ngga bakal teraganggu secara posisi nya banyakan di Bench ketimbang di lapangan..

Cleverley :
Pastinya doi yang paling terancam posisi nya, liat aja musim kemaren karena form yang bagus imbas nya posisi nya banyak dirotasi beberapa pemain bahkan Rooney pun beberapa kali main di posisi sana dan posisi terbaik Thiago kebetulan disana

Kagawa :
Kecil kemungkinan Thiago bakal mengancam si Jepang ni, Kagawa bermain di belakang striker dan left flank, posisi yang kecil kemungkinan Moyes bakal memainkan Thiago disana, Thiago diminati karena kita butuh Gelandang kreatif yang bagus dalam create attack dan support serangan
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Fabregas pemaen dengan skill bagus. Selain itu di Arsenal dia juga berperan sebagai playmaker. Rasanya nggak susah berubah posisi. Tinggal dikit adaptasi aja.

Masalahnya tuh Barca harus memilih ngasih janji ke Fabregas atau Thiago. Dua2nya pemaen tengah. Dua2nya punya skill bagus dan versatile. Dua2nya musim lalu jarang dapet kesempatan. Fabregas meski sering maen tapi lebik ke false 9, posisi yang nggak pernah dijalani di Arsenal. Jadi, Barca harus kasih harapan maen lebih banyak ke siapa nih? Fabregas atau Thiago?
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Fabregas pemaen dengan skill bagus. Selain itu di Arsenal dia juga berperan sebagai playmaker. Rasanya nggak susah berubah posisi. Tinggal dikit adaptasi aja.

Masalahnya tuh Barca harus memilih ngasih janji ke Fabregas atau Thiago. Dua2nya pemaen tengah. Dua2nya punya skill bagus dan versatile. Dua2nya musim lalu jarang dapet kesempatan. Fabregas meski sering maen tapi lebik ke false 9, posisi yang nggak pernah dijalani di Arsenal. Jadi, Barca harus kasih harapan maen lebih banyak ke siapa nih? Fabregas atau Thiago?
Dalam formasi false 9 Barca
Posisi yang ngga mungkin tergantikan kalo dia ngga cedera (Messi), tapi kalo di Timnas Spanyol Fabregas sering bermain sebagai deep striker dalam taktik false 9, role Messi di barca dimana striker yang lebih turun ke tengah sejajar dengan midfield line..
tapi pada laga terakhir Spanyol vs Uruguay, Fabregas memain kan role yang biasa dilakukan nya waktu di Arsenal yaitu free role midfield..
jadi kalo prediksi gw kalo buat gantiin Xavi's role lebih cendrung ke Thiago ketimbang Fabregas
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Barca launch bid to keep Thiago

Barcelona are making a desperate and concerted last-ditch attempt to keep Thiago Alcantara at Camp Nou and prevent a widely anticipated transfer to Manchester United.

Sources privy to the negotiations have told ESPN that the Catalan club have tried a number of "stalling tactics" with both Old Trafford officials and the player himself, in order to halt any deal and persuade the midfielder to stay. Although United still feel confident of eventually securing the purchase, they are getting "increasingly frustrated" and ideally want to have it tied up within the next seven days - especially with Chelsea and, to a lesser extent, Bayern Munich hovering.

The Premier League champions have agreed personal terms with Thiago and are set to more than treble his wages, but the player’s camp are open to at least weighing up what Barcelona have to say. It is understood that the Catalans were "stunned" at the reality that the play-maker would actually go through with a move, and have been moved into sudden action. One Old Trafford source likened it to United’s reaction at the realisation that Paul Pogba was intent on leaving for Juventus.

Barcelona, however, are now prepared to offer Thiago much greater guarantees and are particularly playing up the idea that he is the successor to a 33-year-old Xavi. The Spanish legend will likely play less next season, simply as a consequence of the accumulation of fixtures over the past five years as well as his age.

Thiago’s main concern at the moment is getting as much football as possible, in order to force his way into Spain’s World Cup squad. As such, Barca will essentially have to come close to matching United’s assurances that the 22-year-old will be a certain starter.

Any prospective transfer is also not quite so simple as the Old Trafford club just triggering his release clause to take Barcelona out of the equation. Even then, a number of terms about any deal still have to be agreed between the clubs. The Catalans have in the meantime attempted to leverage that situation, while also requesting a first-refusal in the event of any transfer.

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Seperti yang aku bilang om TOD. Barca harus milih siapa yang akan dikasih garansi maen lebih sering, Fabregas atau Thiago. Mo di timnas Fabregas jadi striker ya nggak penting, yang dibicarakan kan Barca. Klo posisi Xavi jadi milik Thiago trus dimana posisi Fabregas? False 9? Jadi cadangan dong.

Intinya apa sih? Ya tinggal siapa yang kurang di akomodasi di Barca. Thiago di utamakan ya tawar aja Fabregas, dan sebaliknya. Tinggal Barca milih yang mana.
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