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Default Belajar 'mengenal' sepakbola..

Berawal dr tiap gw nonton berita bola, terutama menjelang sebuah laga, biasanya kan ada sesi preview dr para komentator maupun hostnya sendiri. Nah biasanya mereka berbicara dgn 'bahasa bola' . Banyak istilah2 yang digunakan merujuk kepada suatu posisi, teknik, strategi, taktik, aturan main, dll, apa aja yang berbau sepakbola.

Dengan gw mendapat banyak pencerahan yang mungkin datengnya dr beberapa member forum, pastinya pengertian yang gw dapet tentang istilah/sebutan tadi lebih jelas. Toh bisa dijadikan bwt media sharing pengeteahuan sesama member lain kan

Thread ini dibuat dgn tujuan mengakomodir para nubie dlm dunia sepakbola seperti gw yang msh bingung dgn banyak istilah-istilah tadi. Contohnya gw dulu pernah bingung dgn sebutan pace yg sering disebutin di banyak postingan forum ini pas menjelaskan atribut kualitas seorang pemain, dan untunglah waktu itu dapet penjelasan via bbm dr opa @rondwisan

Ya, sebenernya bisa dibilang thread pribadi gw kali ya, karena siapa tau aja disini cuma gw aja yg masih belum ngerti istilah2 tadi.. Jadi, jika emang dirasa ga memberikan kontribusi, dgn senang hati gw merelakan thread ini di moderasi oknum ybs

Monggo sama2 disini bertanya atau sharing info lain ttg aturan, sebutan, ataupun 'istilah mendasar' lainnya dlm dunia sepakbola lebih detail se detail-detailnya!
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Yang lebih ngerti donk. Gw mau tanya 2 hal:

1. Kan ada istilah deep lying midfielder ya, itu maksudnya gimana yak?

2. Dan istilah CM itu cenderung kemana sih? Gelandang tengah AM atau DM? Yang penting playmaker? atau? Bingung dgn beberapa hirarki posisi di posisi tengah...

Dan pastinya lebih bagus lg pake contoh pemain jaman sekarang yg posisi terbaiknya Deep Lying Mid siapa aja..

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Yang lebih ngerti donk. Gw mau tanya 2 hal:

1. Kan ada istilah deep lying midfielder ya, itu maksudnya gimana yak?

2. Dan istilah CM itu cenderung kemana sih? Gelandang tengah AM atau DM? Yang penting playmaker? atau? Bingung dgn beberapa hirarki posisi di posisi tengah...

Dan pastinya lebih bagus lg pake contoh pemain jaman sekarang yg posisi terbaiknya Deep Lying Mid siapa aja..

Monggo mas dedi, mas tod, mas victory, mas satya, ko yo, ko ferly, opa, dan member evergreen lain yg lebih ngerti sharing donk
Wkwkwk oke gw jawab sesuai kepercayaan gw wkwkkw...

1. Deep Lying Midfielder : Deep lying midfielder adalah pemain yang difungsikan buat menjalankan role dimana pemain lebih ke dalam, mereka biasa nya midfielder yang punya defensif dan ofensive yang seimbang..
harus nya kemampuan short pass, quick pass, long pass yang bagus, umpan diagonal kearah sayap, juga ball keeping yang bagus dan biasa nya mereka juga long range shot yang kuat..
dan penggolongan lagi ada sebagian DLM yang cendrung bermain stay deep dan ada juga yang main box to box..



2. CM : central midfielder, posisi dimana punya tugas bertahan dan menyerang seimbang, paling sering dipake di formasi 4-4-2 ato pola dengan 2 sayap, 2 midfielder biasa nya yang satu punya kemampuan ball winner yang bagus, control ball possesion dan yang satu lagi punya attack creativity yang dominan,..
Keano - Scholes
Carrick - Cleveley

3. DM : Mereka bermain ke dalam tepat di depan garis pertahanan, tipikal pemain yang lugas dlm bertahan, punya tackle, intercept dan kemampuan start attack ketika transisi dari bertahan ke menyerang..
biasa dalam pola 4-2-3-1 seperti Khedeira dan Alonso di Madrid

4. AM : Midfielder spesial buat support striker, umum nya mereka tipikal yang kreatif dalam menyerang, dan juga visi serang yang sangat bagus..
Ozil, Kagawa, Rooney juga bagus dengan role ini..

Posisi DLM zaman sekarang :
Pirlo masih sangat bagus tuh..
Xavi, Alonso, Charlie Adams, Carrick, Montolivo,
Modric waktu di Spurs terbaik menurut gw..
Scholes masih bisa dibilang bagus walo udah sangt jauh menurun dibanding prime time nya.

OK just IMO hehehe
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Mantappp, berarti pas lah ya kalo saleh gomaa ke United spt di trit sebelah, calon pengganti carrick. Hmm, berarti sebenernya di era modern kita gapernah punya DM murni yak.. nice nice
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Klo box to box apa? Trus jaman 3-5-2 jaya di indonesia ada istilah stopper tapi sekarang dah nggak terdengar lagi. Apa itu stopper?
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Mantappp, berarti pas lah ya kalo saleh gomaa ke United spt di trit sebelah, calon pengganti carrick. Hmm, berarti sebenernya di era modern kita gapernah punya DM murni yak.. nice nice
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Klo box to box apa? Trus jaman 3-5-2 jaya di indonesia ada istilah stopper tapi sekarang dah nggak terdengar lagi. Apa itu stopper?
Box to Box : Role dmana pemain bergerak lebih dinamis ke semua area, misal nya beberapa saat yang lalu dia bertahan di areal penalty nya, sesaat kemudian ketika quick counter dia sudah berada di area pertahanan lawan dan terlibat dalam set up serangan, butuh stamina yang bagus, tackling, passing serta finishing juga, Gerrard, Yaya Toure, MOdric ( Spurs ) bagus sebagai Box to box midfielder..

Stopper :Bisa dibilang center full back kalo sekarang tugas cendrung sama kayak center back. Dulu biasa nya game plan buat stopper, mereka dikasih tugas gimana memenang bola, memarking striker lawan, mreka harus kuat dan bisa memenangkan bola udara dan lazim dipakai pada formasi 3-5-2,
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Klo box to box apa? Trus jaman 3-5-2 jaya di indonesia ada istilah stopper tapi sekarang dah nggak terdengar lagi. Apa itu stopper?
coba jawab om...sepengetahuan nubi stopper itu pasangan setia libero...
posisi stopper berada sedikit didepan seorang libero, tugas seorang stopper lebih berat karena dia yg musti bentrok duluan dengan striker lawan sebelum
melewati libero...

yg laen mungkin ada jawaban berbeda...?
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coba jawab om...sepengetahuan nubi stopper itu pasangan setia libero...
posisi stopper berada sedikit didepan seorang libero, tugas seorang stopper lebih berat karena dia yg musti bentrok duluan dengan striker lawan sebelum
melewati libero...

yg laen mungkin ada jawaban berbeda...?
Yup dua bek tengah berbagi tiugas sebagai Stopper dan Libero
Istilah Libero jadi ingat tahun 90an zaman Seri-A sedang hebat2 nya (katanya)
Libero artinya free, role dimana pemain lebih bebas bergerak, biasa nya dimainkan oleh tipikal versatile..
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Sedikit tentang Libero nih, kalo dulu mungkin bicara Libero cendrung dengan defender, nah ini ada artikel tentang Modern Libero..

Pirlo, Busquets and The Rise Of The Modern Libero

Positions in football tend to fade away and then come back, at times with a twist, and the libero is no different. Here's how Barcelona's Busquets and Pirlo of Juventus are bringing it back...





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Wahhh.. Keren nih ada thread kayak gini.
Sekalian nanya ya, kalo istilah 'gelandang tukang angkut air' itu sebutan untuk gelandang bertahan apa gimana? Beda sama deep lying mid?
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