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Old 02-04-2011, 01:02 PM   #21
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Maaf, tapi saya pikir gambar pin di atas sudah cukup mewakili kan?
kalo itu dah liat oom barusan tp itu kan jadul banget maksud saya di era2 sekitar mulai EPL saya belum menemukan

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Soal dimanfaatkan oleh fans lain untuk ejekan, ya memang justru itu intinya. Karena pada tahun 60-an ITV dan juga banyak surat kabar menggunakan singkatan "MAN U" maka suporter lain sering menggunakan sebutan itu. Dan karena mereka suporter lawan, tentu saja ejekan yang keluar pun menggunakan sebutan "MAN U" tersebut.

Jika ada teman-teman di sini yang kurang menyukai sebutan MAN U, saya tidak mempermasalahkan itu. Tapi jika alasan yang dipakai adalah semata-mata karena istilah itu dari awalnya diciptakan untuk menghina tragedi Munich, maka alasan itu adalah SALAH BESAR dan TIDAK SESUAI dengan FAKTA SEJARAH yang ada.
kalo yg diatas saya setuju..
memang setau saya sebutan Man U itu diciptakan bukan untuk menghina Munich tragedy
awalnya memang sudah ada seperti yg dijelaskan oom sapi namun pada perkembangannya dari yg saya tau setelah Munich tragedy dijadikan bahan ejekkan oleh para rival
mungkin disinilah yg harus diluruskan
btul tidak oom

makannya kenapa saya ga suka pake Man U karena kata2 itu akhirnya dipakai rival buat mengejek
bukan tidak suka Man U karena awalanya diciptakan untuk menghina Munich tragedy

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Mungkin yang ingin disampaikan Oom Sapi cuman fakta bahwa sebenarnya sebutan MAN U itu bukan dibuat untuk menghina tragedi munich... Ya itu dia, untuk men-simplified kata aja... Every rival fans juga punya sebutan sarkastik kepada tim lain yang mungkin juga diharamkan untuk digunakan oleh fans mereka sendiri...

So, penggunaan kata MAN U berdasarkan apapun latar belakangnya, memang sebenarnya tidak enak untuk diucapkan..
MU is much better... Nothing wrong with that one menurut gw...

Intinya Oom Sapi tidak mendebat masalah itu, beliau cuma menjelaskan kalau alasan ManU itu keluar untuk menghina korban tragedi Munich (secara sejarah) adalah salah..

Itu aja, kok...
So, kalau memang ada artikel yg lain selain di thread yg sudah ada yg menyebutkan kenapa kita tidak menyebut United dengan ManU sok dikeluarin disini... Biar kita sama2 ngerti and belajar...

setuju oom,..
seperti yg david bilang di post sebelumnya kita masih sama2 belajar..
jadi kalo ada sumber lain lebih bagus biar pikiran kita makin terbuka and makin ngerti sejarahnya yg bener

harus lebih banyak lg nih artikel2 yg seperti oom sapi buat..

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Old 02-04-2011, 01:34 PM   #22
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Buingung juga yah..but makasih @Oom Sapi atas tambahan pengetahuannya..makin menambah wawasan
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Old 02-04-2011, 02:06 PM   #23
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Default Re: Is using the term "man u" disrespectful, offensive and an insult? Answer: No!

Wew , baru kali ini ane baca penjelasan kayak gini . Terus singkatan "MAN U" atau manure di bagian bawah ini gimana ya penjelasan nya ?

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An early example of its usage is this chant by West Brom fans: "Duncan Edwards is manure, rotting in his grave, man you are manure- rotting in your grave". The origin of "Man u" is a song to insult the dead Duncan Edwards.
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Newbie mengamati dulu ah . Yang jelas , semenjak ejekan sarkastik dr anak ABU , ane udah gak pernah menggunakan terminologi Man U lagi . It's better to use UNITED ( yu-nai-tid ).
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Old 02-04-2011, 02:26 PM   #24
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wow.. nice thread buat oom sapi..
slama ini sy mungkin salah satu yg termasuk bhw sebutan MAN U itu identik dgn penghinaan thd korban Munich..
dgn penjelasan oom sapi di atas, pengetahuan saya thd sejarah United pun bertambah..
tapi tetap sy lbih nyaman dgn sebutan United..
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Old 02-04-2011, 03:39 PM   #25
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Default Re: Is using the term "man u" disrespectful, offensive and an insult? Answer: No!

I just take our team being called Man U as an insult.
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Pastikan Anda menyikat gigi Anda sebelum tidur
Di artikel aslinya kok ngga ada Tom clare nulis kata diatas ya oom?

Makasi untuk pencerahannya. Selama ini kalo menyangkal mereka yg nyebutin MU atau ManU, saya selalu pake alasan insulting diatas, meskpun sebenernya bingung jg, karena alasan mereka bahakan yg bukan fans MU ngatain kalo mereka nyebut MU atau ManU ya asal aja, dan mereka gk tau kalo itu 'konon dikatakan insulting'...

Tuntas sudah semuanya. Memang susah kalo mau nyebut sesuatu yg uda menjadi 'trademark' dari sononya. Toh saya jg kalo nulis nyebut united, tp pas ngobrol, terutama yg gk ngerti ttg adanya artikel mgenani 'ManU sbg insulting' ya saya nyebutnya MU

Tapi tetep breat nyebut MU karena uda mulai terbiasa, apalagi ada chant yg ngehina the big dunc dengan penggunaan manu td... hmmm, terus mengamati...
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satu ilmu pengetahuan bertambah lagi
yups seperti saya yg hanya member biasa,,,perlu banyak belajar dan ilmu pengetahuan dr para sesepuh
jadi mungkin tread yg satu lagi sudah tidak berguna ya??hehehe
terimakasih om sapi atas ilmu nya (saya masih inget ama om sapi ni pas gatnas kmaren )
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@gung, walaupun kata2 Man U berasal dari Jurnalis yang males, tidak akan jadi Offensive (bagi sebagian fan )kalo ngga ada Tragedi Munich..
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jadi mungkin tread yg satu lagi sudah tidak berguna ya??hehehe
menurut saya masih bro...
karena artikel di thread ini menurut saya bukan jadi pembenaran yg sebenar - benarnya dari thread sbelumnya
tapi di thread ini ada satu pelurusan sejarah tentang asal mula Man U itu sendiri
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Di artikel aslinya kok ngga ada Tom clare nulis kata diatas ya oom?
Artikel aslinya memang tidak saya cantumkan di post yang pertama

http://www.unitedindonesia.org/forum...2&postcount=17

Tapi ya sudah ada di halaman berikutnya, Anda mengiranya artikel asli itu yang mana? Kalo yang di bawah-bawah kan jelas beda... zzzz

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kalo itu dah liat oom barusan tp itu kan jadul banget maksud saya di era2 sekitar mulai EPL saya belum menemukan
Saya sudah tambahkan di halaman satu post pertama, dispoiler, silahkan dicek.

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