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Old 03-10-2016, 11:43 AM   #1
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Default Liga Inggris atau Liga Europa?

Yang pertanyaan yang terlintas saat ini, memprioritaskan BPL atau UEL?

Dulu... ada tulisan di dailymail...

Health warning! The Europa League derails domestic campaigns and it will probably be won by a Champions League club anyway... so be careful what you wish for!

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How do teams fare when they play in the Europa League group stage?

2009/10
Fulham: Final (of Europa League) - 12th (in Premier League), did not qualify (for Europe)
Liverpool: Semi-final - 7th, Europa League
Everton: Round of 32 - 8th, did not qualify

2010/11
Man City: Round of 16 - 3rd, Champions League
Liverpool: Round of 16 - 6th, did not qualify

2011/12
Stoke City: Round of 32 - 14th, did not qualify
Spurs: Group stage - 4th, Europa League
Fulham: Group stage - 9th, did not qualify
Birmingham City: Group stage - 4th (Championship), did not qualify

2012/13
Spurs: Quarter-final - 5th, Europa League
Newcastle: Quarter-final - 16th, did not qualify
Liverpool: Round of 32 - 7th, did not qualify

2013/14 (nyari data sendiri - transfermarkt)
Spurs : last 16 - 6th, did not qualify (bisa ke UEL karena Arsenal juara piala FA padahal sdh lolos UCL sehingga jatah lolos ke UEL dari juara piala FA pindah ke posisi 6 klasmen BPL).
Swansea : 2nd round - 12th, did not qualify

2014/15
Spurs : intermediate stage (32 besar) - 5th, Europa League
Everton : last 16 - 11th, did not qualify
Liverpool : intermediate stage - 6th, Europa League

2015/16
Spurs : last 16 - 3rd, Champions League
Liverpool : final - 8th, did not qualify
Manchester United : last 16 - 5th, Europa League
Dari data itu hanya 2 tim yang berlaga di UEL hingga babak 16 besar dan bisa lolos ke UCL di klasmen akhir musim yang sama.

Main Jumat pagi (waktu Indonesia) dan dilanjutkan BPL Minggu malam (waktu Indonesia), mepet banget krn hanya berjeda kurang dari 3 hari. Beda klo jaman masih di UCL yang jadwal mainnya gantian Rabu dan Kamis pagi.

Total ada 7 pemain yang tampil lawan Leicester pekan lalu, kemudian lanjut lawan Zorya Luhansk di limaju dan lanjut lagi lawan Stoke minggu malam. Hanya 4 pemain termasuk kiper yang sempet istirahat pas lawan Zorya Luhansk, selebihnya main terus tanpa istirahat. Jangan2 ini punya pengaruh besar pas lawan Stoke?

Jadwal berikutnya lawan Fenerbahce pun sama, habis limajum langsung BPL vs Chelsea minggu malam. Apakah Mou mau merotasi? Atau kekuatan penuh lagi pas lawan Fenerbahce?

Klo man-teman gimana? Milih lebih fokus ke BPL atau fokus di dua2nya, BPL dan UEL?
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Old 03-10-2016, 11:52 AM   #2
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Default Re: Liga Inggris atau Liga Europa?

Kalo disuruh milih ya mending juara PL..hehe..
Tp kalo ga salah united belom pernah menang UEL kan yaa..
Jadi boleh lah 1 piala..buat lengkapin champions, uefa, dan winners yg udh ga ada, dan untung udh pernah di menangin..hehe
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Old 03-10-2016, 01:21 PM   #3
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kalo disuruh milih yah PL, secara dah 'agak' lama gak juara. tapi kalo realistis, dengan penampilan United sejauh ini yah rasanya agak berat. walaupun City baru merasakan kekalahan pertama, tetapi ditangan Pep mereka menjelma menjadi rival terberat & diposisi pertama bursa taruhan. begitu yg Spurs yg ngalahin City, belum pernah kalah, ditangan Pochettino permainan mereka masih seperti musim lalu, dari kuda hitam menjadi pesaing. Arsenal seperti biasa, masih konsisten diawal musim & Liverpool yg menjadi tim tersubur, sudah 6-7 partai disemua kompetisi menang terus.
jadi kalo melihat kondisi yg ada, mending fokus di EL aja, syukur2 kalo juara kan lolos juga ke UCL musim depan, mentok2 yah finish diposisi 4 musim ini, kalo bisa finish di posisi 3 biar lolos otomatis.
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Old 03-10-2016, 01:36 PM   #4
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Klo aku sih gengsi utama ada di BPL. Duit lebih banyak pun di BPL. Jadi fokus ke BPL saja dulu. UEL jadi ajang rotasi dan pemain muda sambil berharap bisa lolos fase grup.
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Bagi United sepertinya sih prioritas pertama adalah juara EPL agar musim depan bisa kembali berlaga di liga Champions. Meski demikian bukan berarti United tampil seadanya di UEL, diharapkan sih berprestasi di tingkat domestik maupun Eropa. Kalau saya sendiri sih kalau bisa semua ajang yang diikuti oleh United bisa juara
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Default Re: Liga Inggris atau Liga Europa?

Oom Dedi, sekarang udah bukan Barclays lagi kan

Ini pertanyaan dari jaman Moyes-LvG kemarin pasti ada
Untuk saat ini jelas lebih pilih Premier League dan harus fokus di Premier League, kalaupun ga juara ga masalah asal tidak semakin lama berada di papan tengah. Dah semestinya kembali ke papan atas di akhir musim ini kalau ga mau semakin tertinggal dari City
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Oom Dedi, sekarang udah bukan Barclays lagi kan

Ini pertanyaan dari jaman Moyes-LvG kemarin pasti ada
Untuk saat ini jelas lebih pilih Premier League dan harus fokus di Premier League, kalaupun ga juara ga masalah asal tidak semakin lama berada di papan tengah. Dah semestinya kembali ke papan atas di akhir musim ini kalau ga mau semakin tertinggal dari City
Iya... "BPL" susah ilang dr kepala. Harusnya sekarang "PL" aja ya? Membiasakan nulis "PL".
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Update lagi...

Dari 3x partai PL pasca UEL United cuma dapat 1 poin. Kalah 1-3 vs Watford, imbang 1-1 vs Stoke dan kalah 0-4 dr Chelsea. Nggak bermaksud ngeles karena tampil buruk tapi United main kurang dari 3 hari tiap ada jadwal UEL, jumat pagi dan kemudian minggu malam.

Dua tim di 4 besar adalah tim yg nggak main di eropa, Chelsea dan Liverpool. Praktis waktu istirahat melimpah dan manajer jadi punya banyak waktu melatih tim sesuai harapan dia. Klo performa seperti ini mereka teruskan bisa2 2 posisi 4 besar klasmen jadi milik mereka.

United? Terpaku di posisi 7. "Cuma" selisih 6 poin dari puncak. Tapi performa United labil plus rekor pertemuan dengan klub besar lain buruk (2x kalah dan 1x imbang lawan klub 4 besar).

Pilihan ada di Mou. Di sisa 3 pertandingan UEL United akan jalan2 ke Turki dan ke eropa timur. Mau kekuatan penuh atau lebih memberi kepercayaan ke pemain muda dan pelapis?
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Seharusnya sih Liga Inggris tetap jadi prioritas utama sementara piala FA, piala liga dan UEL hanya pelengkap saja.
Syukur Alhamdulillah kalau bisa menjuarai semuanya
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Bagi United sepertinya sih prioritas pertama adalah juara EPL agar musim depan bisa kembali berlaga di liga Champions. Meski demikian bukan berarti United tampil seadanya di UEL, diharapkan sih berprestasi di tingkat domestik maupun Eropa. Kalau saya sendiri sih kalau bisa semua ajang yang diikuti oleh United bisa juara
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