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Kayaknya thread ini dah nggak relevan lagi. Saat ini 3 orang yang paling dijagoin nggantiin Fergie adalah OGS, Guardiola dan Mourinho. Moyes bukan tidak mungkin, hanya saja sudah jarang di sebutin lagi.

Kayaknya threadnya diperluas aja. Nggak hanya berkutat di DM dan JM. IMHO...
dari jarang disebutin, mendadak jadi calon terkuat di atas JM, dan akhirnya finish sendirian (yaiyalah sndirian, masa ada dua manager dlm satu klub )
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Old 10-05-2013, 01:49 AM   #142
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Mau Buka Thread baru eh ternyata di mari udah ada ??ª?ª??ª?ª???ª?ª??ª?ª okey let me start

David Moyes VS Jose Maurinho

Beberapa saat yang lalu media gencar memberitakan tentang keinginan "MOU" untuk menjadi suksesor SAF. Dengan prestasi yang telah dicapainya tentu nama mourinho dianggap publik sebagai sebuah garansi bagi kesuksesan club. Saya pribadi tidak terlalu sependapat dengan hal ini.
Pada April 2010 SAF pernah mengeluarkan statement bahwa D.moyes-lah yang pantas untuk menjadi suksesornya, banyak pihak menganggap bahwa SAF ini lebih didasarkan kepada faktor kedekatan dalam hal kebangsaan beliau dengan D.moyes akan tetapi menurut saya SAF memiliki pandangan yang berbeda.

3 Alasan utama kenapa Mourinho tidak cocok melatih UNITED :
1. Gaya bermain
Efektif football merupakan gaya sepakbola yang dianut oleh "mou". Efektif yang dimaksud disini adalah cara yang tepat untuk memenangkan pertandingan. Bagi Mourinho cara yang tepat untuk memenangkan pertandingan bisa jadi berbeda - beda. Di chelsea mourinho menerapkan gaya permainan yang cenderung menyerang dengan 3 striker pada saat menghadapi lawan yang dianggap lemah, dan menerapkan sepakbola negatif dengan mengandalkan serangan balik pada saat menemui lawan yang memiliki kekuatan dalam menyerang. Pada saat melatih inter sepakbola efektif tetap dijalankan mou, akan tetapi dengan pola yang Lebih konserfatif "TERUTAMA PADA SAAT INTER SUDAH LEADING WALAU HANYA 1 GOL".
Dari sisi pemilihan pemain, faktor kelebihan individu menjadi pertimbangan utama. Mourinho tidak terlalu suka dengan pemain yang bergaya "EKSOTIS" akan tetapi dianngap tidak terlalu efektif dalam permainan ( itulah sebabnya kenapa IBRA dijual ). Tidak efektif = Dicoret/dibuang lihat saja Robben yang mulai sering cidera, Duff yg performanya mulai menurun lgsung ditendang dari squad utama karena dianggap tidak terlalu "Efektif" dalam permainan.
Marilah kita berandai-andai mou melatih UNITED dan inilah yang akan terjadi: Pemain yang dicoret dari Squad ( Giggs, owen, hargro, G neville, Sebelumnya sorry BERBA, J.evans) dan akan menggantinya dengan membeli pemain yg disesuaikan dengan kondisi keuangan club. Di mata saya mourinho sangat "CONCERN" terhadap permainan, karena faktor PEMAIN lebih utama ketimbang faktor strategi. Kenapa saya bilang seperti itu? Karena saya melihat mourinho tidak terlalu detail dalam menjabarkan dan mengkreasikan strategi, lihat saja final Champions league,,gol terjadi berkat kejelian robben melihat posisi milito yg bebas dan juga kemampuan milito dalam menusuk pertahanan bukan lewat serangan yang dibangun menggunakan kombinasi umpan dan pergerakan pemain. Grand design strateginya jelas,,,matikan Robben, moeler dan basti,,,dan lakukan serangan balik, tapi secara detail dikonsep!?saya rasa tidak.
2. Kesetiaan
Setelah inter trebel winner apa yang dilakukan oleh mourinho!?apakah dia stay untuk mengukir sejarah di Inter dan mengukir sejarah di mata club? TIDAK!!!!DIA LEBIH MEMILIH MENGUKIR SEJARAH DI MATA DUNIA,,,bisa jadi setelah semusim sukses bersama UNITED akan mengundurkan diri dan melatih portugal untuk membawa negaranya Juara piala Dunia.
3. SIKAP
Luar biasa!!!!Siapa saja yang tidak sependapat dengannya berarti musuh bagi dia, Mou adalah BOSSnya,,,bukan kalian,,,dan komentar2 yg sarkistik dan sombong itu pun terus meluncur darinya bisa jadi sikap itu juga akan ditunjukkan kepada SUPORTeR FANATIK

Bagaimana dengan D.moyes?
1. Jujur saya sangat terkesan dengan permainan yang diterapkan oleh moyes di 2 pertandingan Tandang mereka yang keduanya berakhir dengan "KekaLahan"...LOW KALAH KOQ BISA TERKESAN!? Lihat apa yang dilakukan everton saat tertinggal,,,menyerang habis-habisan pertahanan lawan mereka lakukan dengan kombinasi umpan pendek dan rotasi pemain yang menurut saya sangat rapi dan berbahaya...lihat bagaimana Arteta, pienar, Fellaini, dan Rodwell mencari ruang tembak dengan begitu tenangnya...tidak terjadinya gol menurut saya hanya karena faktor kualitas individu pemain. Dan UNITED bisa menyediakan moyes hal tersebut yaitu WORLD CLASS PLAYER!!!Everton memang terlihat sangat rapuh di lini belakang, akan tetapi dengan adanya VIDA, EVRA, dan Ferdinand di lini belakang UNITED hal itu tidak akan terjadi!!!!
2 kesetiaan
2002 moyes masuk ke EVERTON dengan kondisi skuad yang berusaha lolos dari jurang degradasi dan moyes berhasil "menyelamatkan" everton. Saat kesuksesan diraihnya berbagai tawaran menggiurkan pun datang dan yang terbaru adalah tawaran dari Aston villa, akan tetapi moyes tidak bergeming dan justru dia memilih memperpanjang kontraknya besama everton (ehm,,,mungkin kondisinya akan sedikit berbeda kalau tawaran yg datang dari UNITED )
3 SIKAP
Selain berkembangnya isu keretakan hubungannya dengan WAZZA saya rasa sikap moyes cukup elegan dalam mengahadapi berbagai situasi, lagipula WAZZA adalah pribadi yang pemaaf ini terbukti dengan WAZZA cepat melupakan kejadian di PD 2006 saat menghadapi portugal yg melibatkan RONALDO .....

Jadi kesimpulannya,,,say no to mou!!!!!
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Yoi Mas Bro ...., gara2 memprediksi DM vs JM ini member ybs sampe gk selesei2 tuh ngerjaian skripsi

Dan baru 2 bulan yg lalu doi wisuda ..., dan prediksinya terwujud ..., coba dia lulus agak lama dikit, mungkin kita akan bisa liat Opa Fergie lebih lama ddi bench #eehh

Moga2 ybs gk baca ya, secara doi jarang masuk forum lagi
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Old 10-05-2013, 06:21 AM   #145
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Congrats David Moyes
Semoga Moyes bisa meneruskan apa yg Sir Opa Alex sudah lakukan di United (Juara dan Juara dan Juara terrruuuss,,ga bosan-bosan Juaranya) dan bisa meraih gelar kehormatan juga nantinya "Sir"
Sir David Moyes..
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Sebelumnya nggak ada yang kenal Arteta, Jagielka, sampai Baines. di bawah tangan dingin David Moyes mereka bisa berubah status dari pemain level-2 ke level pertama, yang mesti difokuskan oleh Moyes sekarang mungkin adalah bagaimana menaklukkan pemain-pemain bintang Man.United yang sudah siap menunggu beliau baik di Carrington (AON Training Center) atau di ruang ganti di OT . Dari awal pun saya selalu yakin dengan siapapun suksesor SAF, dan dengar kabar kalau Moyes punya "Summer Camp" yang lumayan hebat buat memperbugar kondisi fisik pemain. Can't wait to see Giggsy TC at there
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Cari2 lagi post2 lama wkwk
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sama neh
milih bukan mou
jadi bisa moyes atau pep (hehehehekali aja bosen di barca)
alasannya sama bgt ama yang diatas
plus rada aneh aja liat mou yang koar2 dgn media atau pelatih lawan tapi ga bisa jinakin baloteli
jadi kesannya dia koar2 diluar buat nutupin kekurangan dia dlm ngadepin badboys gitu
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Kalo gw Prefer akan memilih JM untuk menangani MU...
Kenapa??
Keinginan Gw dalam 5 Tahun kedepan
1. Gw Ingin MU bisa memenangkan Gelar UCL 2 Kali berturut2 atau menambah Gelar Liga Champion mereka minimal 2 kali lagi
2. Gw Ingin MU menambah gelar Liga Banyak lagi..menjadi 20..21 atau 25

Dengan 2 keinginan tersebut..

Bagi gw alangkah baiknya gw akan memilih JM
1. JM menang pengalaman menangani tim besar..(dan mudah2an dia gagal di madrid tahun ini... hahahha) (2 Gelar Liga Champion dan 2 Gelar EPL dan 2 Gelar Liga Italy sepertinya cukup sebagai bahan pertimbangan)
2. JM mengedepankan permainan kolektif (dia gak butuh pemain bintang, lebih butuh pemain yg bisa bekerja keras dan bisa jalanin instruksinya)
3. Sikap dia yg keras dan otoriter relatif membuat pemain jadi segan dah respek thd dirinya dan suasana ruang ganti menjadi stabil (semua pemain menuruti cara bermainnya... .. kayaknya waktu di inter dia gak pernah di teriakin chivu dr dalem lapangan deh )

DM???

Gw tidak akan menolak dia untuk melatih MU, tapi kalo ada pilihan buat JM melatih MU kenapa harus DM.. hehehhe
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Manchester United fans must wish Jose Mourinho had succeeded Sir Alex Ferguson



BT Sport columnist says Chelsea's commanding win over Manchester City, showed United bosses appointed the wrong manager.

Jose Mourinho’s Chelsea delivered the most eloquent evidence of why some people championed him to be Sir Alex Ferguson’s successor at Old Trafford.

Choosing Manchester City’s previously impregnable Etihad home as the scene of one of the most impressive and professional away wins must have made the moment even sweeter for the Chelsea boss.

After all, there had been some influential people inside Old Trafford who let it be known they didn’t think Mourinho’s teams played the right type of football to follow Fergie in the United hot seat.

Given the traumas being endured by David Moyes in his first season in charge, the style and swagger of Mourinho's team could hardly rub more salt into already gaping wounds.

There have been times when Mourinho personally, and his teams, have not played the game in the best, competitive manner. Jabbing an opposing coach in the eye during his days at Real Madrid was stupid and childish. His Porto team was once infamously branded by Martin O’Neill as "the worst divers in Europe".

But the Chelsea team that deservedly beat City on Monday night carried none of the old anti-football baggage. His team was clever yet calm in possession. Physically stronger in the tackle and in aerial combat. Sharper to the ball and sharper in thought.

Just as Eden Hazard’s work-rate now matches his inventiveness the belief that England’s best two central defenders play together for Chelsea is surely beyond dispute.


United fans enduring pain of post-Ferguson era will be left with even more heartache now."

Gary Cahill is a cert to be in the England World Cup squad. Can Roy Hodgson ignore John Terry’s burgeoning claim for a recall?

In the departments where Chelsea were sharp, City were sloppy. Here was the painful proof, if it were needed, of the value of their midfield kingpin Fernandinho. The contribution of the hard-working Brazil star is often underestimated. He’ll be overlooked no more.

Meanwhile, those United fans enduring the pain of the post-Ferguson era will be left with even more heartache now. There was a long term belief that Mourinho would have loved to succeed Fergie. Even more United fans must wish he had.

Mad Mario set for Mou reunion?

It was interesting to see Mario Balotelli singing the praises of Jose Mourinho recently.

Might he be paving his way to be reunited with Mourinho at Chelsea?

This is the duo that fell out spectacularly when they worked together at Inter Milan. Yet in his new life, at struggling AC Milan, Mad

Mario said last week: “I said when I left Manchester City that the fans were so good to me I couldn’t see myself playing for another team in England.

“Of course I would like to play for Jose again.”

In the old days Mourinho had one word to sum up Balotelli. “Unmanageable.” So we better expect a deal to be struck next summer!

Goals win prizes

As the football season enters its final, critical phase there is one brutal truth for all those clubs in the most congested relegation zone for years.

Goals keep you in the Premier League, as Christian Benteke proved for Aston Villa last season.

So fans of those clubs currently enduring life in the lower reaches need to be aware. If you’ve a front man who can nail 10 goals in the run-in you’ve every chance of survival. Goalless draws aren’t good enough any more.

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thread ini aneh, seolah2 dua nama ini sudah pasti jadi calon pengganti Sir Alex.
yang paling aneh keduanya beneran jadi pengganti Sir Alex dan kemudian keduanya sama-sama berakhir dipecat.


luarrrr biasa prediksi om ts
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