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Old 04-10-2010, 02:22 PM   #11
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@ Oom Edwin ...
sebenernya yg jadi concern gw di sini bukan masalah result or matchnya sendiri sih, gw cuma menyorot kebanggan absurd dengan 'tidak pernah kalah' (but draw), terbukti kita nangkringnya 'cuman' no 3 saat ini (semoga # 1 di akhir musim ntar)

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oh iya ya......

makanya seterusnya aku bilang...kalah tapi bertanding dengan spirit...masih lebih baik dari seri seperti kemarin v Sunderland...atau bahkan menang tapi tanpa passion...hwhwhwhwh...
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Old 04-10-2010, 02:45 PM   #12
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hidup chelsea,, hahahhakabur......
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Disatu sisi, hasil seri yg diderita united disaat rival utama, Chelsea dan city memetik kemenangan meski mereka sama2 pernah kalah, adalah hasil yg kurang memuaskan karena 2x seri jauh tidak lebih baik dari 1x menang 1x kalah. Namun, Disisi lain, hasil seri tsb memilki kebanggaan sendiri (mengambil positifnya), bahwa kita tak terkahlahkan. Semua berharap United harus menang dan menang, namun jika disaat bersamaan faktanya kita melihat bahwa performa pemain2 kita memang belum seperti yg diharapakan, hasil seri sangatlah 'adil' drpda menelan kekalahan.... Kita ingin kemenangan, namun pemain jg harus menunjukkan mental dan menunjukkan permainan kelas pemenang..
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Old 04-10-2010, 03:36 PM   #14
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Default Re: Menang, Kalah atau Draw ...

Apalah arti tak terkalahkan atau rekor kalah paling sedikit bila ga juara....

Ini tentang lbh mending mana kan di antara WDL kan, ya gw lebih milih Win lah,terutama lawan tim2 yg aslinya bisa di menangkan...

Krn ini akan masalah rasa nyaman pemain,target hasil harus setingginya lah...wong ga lawan tim yg seimbang kok seneng aja dpt hasil seimbang aplg saat kehilangan poin di menit2 akhir...
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Old 04-10-2010, 04:02 PM   #16
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Default Re: Menang, Kalah atau Draw ...

target menang di setiap partai memang harus selalu dibuat
and harus diakui , untuk pertandingan away musim ini , for time being United " belum " memenuhi ekspetasi kita semua terlebih ketika rival kehilangan poin United tidak memanfaatkan hal itu , but still , kompetisi masih panjang , fingercross for team, they will make their performance better ... IMO , sisi " baiknya " : 1 poin lebih baik daripada tidak ada poin sama sekali
mengutip kata VDS : We got what we deserved , and like it or not ... Vds benar untuk bbrp hal ...
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Setuju ama Elora, lebih baik, jika memang permainan para pemain United masih dibawah form, mendingan dapet 1 poin drpda tdk ada sama sekali... Dan kompetisi masih panjang, sekali lg
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Old 04-10-2010, 04:21 PM   #18
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Default Re: Menang, Kalah atau Draw ...

draw sebenarnya lebih baik drpd kalah,,
hal normal,,,
tapi kalo seri trus...gymana mau jadi pemimpin klasmen,,
skrg United no 3..di bawah city lagi
jadi untuk selanjutnya menang adalah harga mati!!
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Default Re: Menang, Kalah atau Draw ...

sebagai fans United kita pasti menginginkan hasil yang terbaik.

bukan KALAH ato SERI !!

tapi namanya permainan sepakbola bumbu Seri/Kalah membuat Racikan sebuah team yang didukung dengan Mental Juara seharusnya termotifasi agar di pertandingan selanjutnya bisa meraih kemenangan.

Dalam kasus ini United mengalami sebuah pasang surut kemenangan terutama ketika kita melawan team medioker dan hanya memperoleh hasi SERI!

well intinya Menang/Kalah/Draw kita selalu dukung United.

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Default Re: Menang, Kalah atau Draw ...

Sebagai seorang yang dididik sebagai seorang calon manajer ( karena kuliah saya manajemen ) saya terbiasa bertindak sesuai target. Dengan target kita akan dapat menilai sedbuah kondisi, apakah sebuah kondisi itu baik, buruk, wajar, luarbiasa . Secara singkat target merupakan alat bantu yang berguna. Target biasanya dibuat berdasar data historis performa tim.

Sebagai seorang manger, tentu SAF sudah membuat bangun rancangan target yang ingin dicapai. Seperti yang beliau lakukan di Liga champions, SAF sering menerapkan target mencapai 10 POIN dengan permainan se-efisien mungkin. Saya rasa begitu juga dengan Liga inggris. Saya rasa SAF sudah menetapkan target di setiap pertandingan

Hasil seri melawan Everton dan fulham saya rasa sudah sesuai target SAF, karena di musim lalu kita kalah dan khusus untuk everton kita memang memiliki rekor statistik yang tidak terlalu baik saat melawat ke goodison park ( kenyataan bahwa kita sempat leading 2 gol tentu harus dihapuskan ).

Akan tetapi hasil seri melawan bolton dan sunderland? Saya rasa ini sudah dibawah target poin yang ingin diraih UNITED. Dan hasil ini tentu akan sangat mempengaruhi dalam menjalankan lanjutan Liga.

Penetapan Target akan sangat mempengaruhi strategi yang diterapkan Oleh SAF. Saat melawan Everton, SAF memang lebih cenderung ingin bermain aman dan meraih hasil imbang dengan menempatkan 3 gelandang, berbeda saat melawan bolton, permainan UNITED memang lebih menyerang.

Saya kurang setuju dengan pendapat opa yang menyatakan bahwa kita kehilangan 8 poin, saya justru melihat secara real kita hanya kehilangan 4 poin hasil dari 2 pertandingan yg seri. Karena di musim lalu UNITED bisa menang di kedua partai tersebut.


tapi saya tetap yakin musim ini kita bisa juara, kalahkan city di kandang mereka, dan tahan imbang chelsea di stamford bridge,,,,lalu habisi chelsea di old trafford
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