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Old 19-07-2013, 09:36 AM   #41
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Yes IMO serta katakan itu kepada orang- orang diluar sana yang masih menilai bagusnya akademi lewat prestasi. Akademy United disanjung- sanjung & dikatakan bagus karena juara dikelas mereka, coba dalam 10 tahun akademi United tidak juara apa- apalagi, apa masihakan dikatakan bagus. Kenapa gak tembus tim utama? Sekali gak masalah Kepercayaan.

Mereka masuk tim utama selain bagus karena faktor kepercayaan. Benar gak? Apakah anda mau mengatakan akademy United jelek karena hanya sedikit yang masuk tim utama dalam 10 tahun terakhir?

Kualitas Individu yah? Hmm, team or individu?

O... jadi akademi United bagus karena prestasi timnya ya? Ha... bagus tapi nggak nyumbang apa2 ke tim utama. Ironis...

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Cek umur pemain- pemain diatas saat mereka dibeli oleh United & Bayern, harga mereka saat itu & harga mereka saat ini, serta yang paling penting seberapa besar pengaruh mereka didalam tim bukan hanya individu.
Wih... pemaen seharga 20an jt pound meski pemaen muda apa disetarakan sama Powell cs . Klo DDG yang punya reputasi sih oke, tapi sama Powell. Klo sampe pemaen seharga 20jt-an nggak dipercaya ya terlalu.

Klo masalah beda prinsip ya udah. Emang beda ngapain dibandingin

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Tim sebesar Bayern percaya dengan pemain muda gak main- main. Yah beberapa memang dibeli, tapi tetap saja pemain muda. Pemain muda United kalah kelas-kah dengan mereka sehingga belum bisa dipercaya di kompetisi gede?
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Pemaen akademi Bayern lebih bagus, pemaen muda yang dibeli jauh lebih bagus. Pemaen akademi Bayern rata2 lulusan Bayern II, sama dengan akademi Barca yang ada Barca II. United... cuman maen di reserve. Pemaen muda yang dibeli? 30jt-nya Gotze dan Martinez vs 4jt-nya Powell. Jelas jauh...
Aku bilang lebih bagus kan? Bukan jelek.

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Gitu yah. Kalau mereka bagus saat di akademi kok prestasi-nya gak melebihi akademy United yah? Bayern banyak berprestasi intern Jerman, United? Cek ini dah

Asal kopas nih...

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Gitu yah. Kalau mereka bagus saat di akademi kok prestasi-nya gak melebihi akademy United yah? Bayern banyak berprestasi intern Jerman, United? Cek ini dah

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Itung yang ane kasih warna merah. Banyak mana? Ente kasih contoh pemaen2 masa kini. Ya udah klo gitu prestasinya jangan dari jaman ane blom lahir dong. Ane batasi sampe tahun 2000 coz tahun itu harusnya Lahm dan Bastian sih di junior. Bandingin ma United di periode yang sama. Banyak mana?

Trus apa prestasi tim = kualitas akademi? Nggak juga. Sekali lagi percuma klo prestasi akademi bejibun tapi minim alumni di skuad utama. Masalah kepercayaan, ya mungkin aja.

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O... jadi akademi United bagus karena prestasi timnya ya? Ha... bagus tapi nggak nyumbang apa2 ke tim utama. Ironis...

Wih... pemaen seharga 20an jt pound meski pemaen muda apa disetarakan sama Powell cs . Klo DDG yang punya reputasi sih oke, tapi sama Powell. Klo sampe pemaen seharga 20jt-an nggak dipercaya ya terlalu.

Klo masalah beda prinsip ya udah. Emang beda ngapain dibandingin

Asli yang ini nggak jelas mbahas apa



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Aku bilang lebih bagus kan? Bukan jelek.



Asal kopas nih...



Itung yang ane kasih warna merah. Banyak mana? Ente kasih contoh pemaen2 masa kini. Ya udah klo gitu prestasinya jangan dari jaman ane blom lahir dong. Ane batasi sampe tahun 2000 coz tahun itu harusnya Lahm dan Bastian sih di junior. Bandingin ma United di periode yang sama. Banyak mana?

Trus apa prestasi tim = kualitas akademi? Nggak juga. Sekali lagi percuma klo prestasi akademi bejibun tapi minim alumni di skuad utama. Masalah kepercayaan, ya mungkin aja.

Asal copas yah? Coba liat googling sendiri deh kalo gitu.

Kayanya pandangan saya dianggap sinis oleh anda tanpa menyimak maksud utama saya apa.

Yang ane bold itu yang ane maksudkan, dalam 10 tahun terakhir kemana lulusan akademi United. Prestasi oke di akademi secara tim, tapi masa hanya Fletcher, Evans, Cleverley & Welbeck (Da Silva's?) yang masuk tim utama? Pasti ada yang salah dengan management, sori bukan meragukan kualitas pemilihan pemain Sir Alex waktu lalu, tapi hanya berandai- andai duit investasi beli pemain jadi itu seandainya disimpan dan pake untuk bina pemain muda, pasti kita saat ini akan sebangga Barca, Ajax & Bayern yang pemain didikannya berhasil tembus tim utama.

Wait, Powell sudah dianggap sebagai produk gagal-kah?
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Powell produk gagal iya tah?Siapa yang bilang?Aku sih bilang 4jt jgn disamain sama 20jt,he...

Asli aku nggak paham arah pembicaran ente Bro @troy andreas. Awal bicara ini ujungnya bicara itu.Sori Sob...
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Powell produk gagal iya tah?Siapa yang bilang?Aku sih bilang 4jt jgn disamain sama 20jt,he...

Asli aku nggak paham arah pembicaran ente Bro @troy andreas. Awal bicara ini ujungnya bicara itu.Sori Sob...
Lah kan aku nanya itu om Ded

Padahal itu semua intinya soal kepercayaan & kesempatan pemain muda United & Bayern itu beda makanya gak heran pemain akademi Bayern yang lebih banyak tembus tim utama. Soal investasi pada pembelian pemain muda, kita masih berimbang dengan Bayern soal kualitas (gak hanya ambil patokan Powell atau Bebe). Harga pemain muda yang mereka beli dengan kita sangat jauh, sejauh ini dari sekian banyak yang dibeli, pemain muda investasi United 75% terpakai kok.
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After winning the treble and bringing in Europe’s best coach, Germany’s finest young playmaker and the Spain Under-21 captain, it is fair to say Bayern Munich are the team to beat in the Champions League this season.

The addition of Pep Guardiola, Mario Gotze and Thiago Alcantara add incredible depth to a quite brilliant squad, arguably the best in the world right now.

Perhaps the only thing that can trip up Bayern this coming season is complacency, egos or perhaps Pep Guardiola failing to his message over correctly and considering he already speaks German, this seems unlikely.

On Tuesday, Bayern Munich presented their squad to an adoring Allianz Arena and were able to present all the 22 players on the image above.

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gift, pep menampar wajah thiago, munchen harus kehilangan throphy perdana mereka setelah kalah 4-2 dari dormund...

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Borussia Dortmund 4-2 Bayern Munich | Germany - Super Cup



6' Marco Reus (1-0)
54' (1-1) Arjen Robben
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57' Ilkay Gündogan (3-1)
64'(3-2) Arjen Robben
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hebat juga Dortmund bisa menang 4-2 vs Munchen, tapi pas diliat susunan skuadnya, sptnya Munchen cuma 40% aja berbanding Dortmund yang 80%

ntah knp Pep mlakukan hal tsb...mgkn blum semua pemain mendapatkan match fitnessnya...
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