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Old 01-03-2010, 09:22 PM   #11
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Gue ada di Tennis Indoor pas Indonesia lawan Malaysia di semifinal. Sayangnya gue duduk di tribun media. Di sebelah kiri gue ada Imran Nahumarury, Boy Noya, dan Sapto Haryo Rajasa (make kaos LFC doi, *huek). Kalau nggak gue pasti udah berdiri ikutan nyanyi "Berkibarlah Benderaku" bareng penonton di tribun sebelah.

Mengganggu lagu kebangsaan negara lain pas dimainkan emang gak etis sih, tapi klo yg namanya rivalitas sepakbola, apalagi menyangkut urusan kaya Indonesia-Malaysia, itu mah masih normal2 aja. Toh gak ada kontak fisik atau sesuatu yang berbahaya.

Ada 20an suporter Malaysia di dalam stadion pas pertandingan, mereka aman2 aja tuh walaupun di section mereka duduk emang dikawal sm tentara.

Tiga bangku dari gue di sebelah kanan ada wartawan Malaysia yg dateng pake jersey Malaysia pula. Kupingnya dia emang panas denger chant penonton Indonesia, tapi dia selamat2 aja tuh, gak digebukin.

$5000, ya bayarlah sana. Lima puluh juta gak ada artinya buat PSSI yang korup itu.
klo sesama suporter di indonesia bnyak bgt yg bentrok..bahkan ada yg meninggal..tp pas dgn suporter malaysia aman2 az..padahal jls bgt malaysia sering sekali mengaku budaya negara kita ini sebagai budaya mereka..
knp sesama suporter indonesia ga kaya gini az..jd nonton bola & ngedukung klub sepak bola lokal dr kota manapun aman2 az gt..ga saling serang,bunuh,dll..
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Old 01-03-2010, 09:29 PM   #12
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hmpf,,,
ga adil aja jika di bandingkan sama masyarakat kita yg menderita di sana!!
lagi-lagi ini menunjukan lemahnya mental pemerintahan kita,,,
mereka (malaysia) merasa di hina,,,pemerintah kita minta maaf
kita di denda,,iya-iya aja,,,

masyarakat kita di sana???
menderita,,,yang di tolong juga kalo yang masuk media masa,,,
kalo ga,,,
ya ga ke tawan,,
kedubes kita kerjaan nya apa si di sana????
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Klo menurutku sih itu nggak pantes. bolehlah klo pas lagu kebangsaan mereka lagi diputer kita diem aja, tapi klo dah selesai dan pertandingan dimulai langsung aja "maling-maling" dll dikeluarin,he...
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kalau menurutku sih...

kita memang sangat pantas didenda dan dihukum karena tidak menghormati lagu kebangsaan yang menjadi simbol Malaysia...

itu suatu tindakan yang sangat tidak pantas...

meneriaki pemain-pemain Malaysia yang sedang bermain sepakbola dengan sebutan "maling" juga sangat tidak pantas...karena bukan pemain-pemain itu yang "mencuri" Sipadan dan Ligitan dari Ibu Pertiwi...

ayolah...jangan salahkan orang lain kalau kita tidak mampu menjaga diri kita sendiri...yang paling bersalah dalam kasus ini adalah kita sendiri yang tidak perduli dengan wilayah perbatasan kita...jadi jangan salahkan Malaysia lagi...atau kita tidak akan pernah belajar dari kesalahan itu...

kalau soal ejekan "banci" aku ga tahu asal muasalnya...jadi ga ada komentar...

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Intinya adalah sebagai suatu negara kita juga harus menghormati negara lain. Bukankah kita harus menghormati orang lain jika kita mau orang lain menghormati kita ?
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PSSI pantas di denda.... mereka gak becus ngurus sepakbola...
Reaksi penonton yg berlebihan biasa terjadi dan itu sudah pasti ada dimanapun ketika mempunya suatu hubungan yg kurang baik...toh penonton tdk melakukan kekerasan fisik...
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Seharusnya penonton Indonesia berperilaku dewasa serta harus bisa menghormati kontingen Malaysia. Jika kita sendiri tidak bisa menghormati kontingen Malaysia tentunya nanti PSSI dengan mudah menyalahkan suporter tanpa mau ikut bertanggung-jawab. Untuk itulah menurut saya, cara terbaik adalah kita semua selaku suporter sepakbola nasional mulai detik ini bersikap dewasa, belajar menghargai suporter dan tim lain serta mentaati peraturan ketertiban umum lainnya.

Perubahan selalu dan harus dimulai dari diri kita sendiri. Jika kita sendiri sudah berubah Insya Allah PSSI juga akan berubah. Lagipula seperti kata RA Kartini "Habis Gelap Terbitlah Terang".
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PSSI pantas di denda.... mereka gak becus ngurus sepakbola...
Reaksi penonton yg berlebihan biasa terjadi dan itu sudah pasti ada dimanapun ketika mempunya suatu hubungan yg kurang baik...toh penonton tdk melakukan kekerasan fisik...
hwhwhwhwh...Etoo dan banyak pemain kulit berwarna juga ga dipukuli...cuma disoraki dengan suara2 mirip m*nyet/kera (aku ga tahu binatang yang mana)...

tapi itu bukan hal yang biasa bro...setidaknya menurutku dan juga FIFA, UEFA, AFC, dll...

pemain Malaysia bukan "maling"...dan mereka mengerti benar arti kata itu...wajar saja mereka tersinggung...aku juga akan begitu...

kalau ejekan masih nyambung dengan dunia futsal/sepakbola...ya wajar...misal kalau pemain Malaysia menguasai bola...terus diteriaki..."uuuuu" atau semacamnya...

tapi jangan merembet ke hal lain...itulah masalahnya...kita harus menempatkan masalah pada tempat yang tepat...
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tapi sepakbola gak akan bisa dipisahkan dari dunia nyata di luar lapangan bro....

Inggris ketemu Argentina pun pasti akan bawa2 perang Malvinas. Suporter Inggris masih bawa2 Perang Dunia kedua sampe sekarang kalau ketemu Jerman, begitu pula Belanda.

Mesir dan Aljazair pun sampe ribut ke level presiden pas kedua tim maen di playoff kualifikasi Piala Dunia.

Gak heran kalau Indonesia lawan Malaysia di lapangan futsal pun serupa.

Olahraga itu kan medan perang tanpa pertumpahan darah di mana harga diri bangsa dipertaruhkan di sana, kalau menurut gue sih chant dan celaan itu wajar, cuma mengganggu lagu kebangsaan aja yang agak keterlaluan.

btw Malaysia dikatain banci karena ada 2 orang pemain mereka yang make sepatu warna shocking pink, benar saudara2, shocking pink. sayang gue ga bawa kamera buat foto
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iya...sayangnya dunia olahraga memang ga pernah bisa dipisahkan dari kenyataan di luar lapangan...(ingat juga saling boikot olimpiade Moskow dan LA jaman perang dingin kan)...

tapi tetap saja itu tidak bisa menjadi pembenaran bahwa tindakan itu pantas dilakukan...kalau kita mengikuti semangat olahraga yang menjunjung tinggi sportivitas...
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