[wacana suksesor SAF] DM vs JM

[cutehiruma]

Originally Posted by arwi27

wah, kalau diliat2,ditelisik dan dtimbang rada milih moyes (kenapa?)
hampir sama pendapatnya dengan ts, moyes lebih setia (ga kayak Mou yg cma mau ciptain sejarah dgn sekali jalan) dan kayaknya bisa membuat strategi yang menyerang untuk menghadapi suatu pertandingan(Mou efektif yg cenderung negatif )

Dan jangan lupa pula dia bisa menerbitkan bintang2 baru/muda yang potensialnya besar dri klubnya sekarang Everton contohnya Wazza (yg masuk united), Rodwell (ini incaran SAF jg klo ga salah). Ga kayak mou (yg mau beli pemain dah jadi langsung, yah memang penting sih, tapi itu ga bisa kayak Class of 92 , pemain bentukan united mendarah daging,hehe)

Hehe, kesimpulannya lebih milih DM drpd JM

ni saya setuju banget,,,,

[yusron]

mnurut gw, baik Moyes maupun Mourinho memiliki kelebihan maupun kekurangan masing2. gw sendiri sih kalo boleh jujur lebih milih ke JM.

Moyes : gw sbenernya cukup suka ma manajer ini,soalnya dia memiliki filosofi yg ga jauh beda ama SAF,yaitu sama2 mempercayai akan PEMBINAAN PEMAIN MUDA, itu yg ga dimiliki "kandidat" yg satunya. , ditambah dia juga org skotland . Tapi tteep aja kemampuan melatihnya masih patut dipertanyakan krn dia hanya melatih tim papan tengah macem Everton yang ga bgitu bagus

kalo JM : gw yakin gada yg ngeraguin kemampuan the special one sbg manajer. smua klub yg pernah ia tangani, pasti slalu meraih hasil luar biasa, entah juara domestik lah, ato juara di Eropa. Tapi sayangnya dia berbeda dgn Moyes yg suka pmain muda, Mou lebih suka pmain "jadi" . Itu yg susah dibayangin. Bgaimana mungkin United yg sudah "terbiasa" dgn pmain muda ditangani oleh platih yg suka pmain jadi?

tapi it's oke lah, syapa pun yg nglatih tetep

[red_devilz]

Keep This Man Away From Old Trafford

AUGUST 20, 2011

Author : Rob Blanchette

When the trademarked Special One was at Chelsea, I was an advocate of him. No doubt he brought something interesting to the table that other foreign managers simply don’t. Wenger, Benitez and the rest are generally as dull as dishwater. And as much as we already had cause to dislike him for his hop, skip and a jump down the Old Trafford touchline after being robbed by his lucky Porto side, there was always that respect factor for a man that was achieving trophy hauls in what appeared to be a new manner. His players worshipped him openly, and more often than not rewarded him with pots of silver. He surely could manage any team on earth and be successful..?

Fast forward several years…

Jose is now lauding it at Real Madrid, the other Biggest Club in the World. He has taken their once famous football philosophy, shoved it firmly in a skip, and has implemented the famous tactics he has successfully employed at Chelsea and Inter. Physical strength, coupled with rigid tactics, can defeat any opponent put in his side’s way. That is except the modern day Barcelona.

His teams’ actions, but more worryingly his own at the Community Shield of Spain in yet another El Classico, leaves an incredibly bitter taste in the mouth. Mourinho’s own attempt to take advantage of the melee that occurred in front of his dugout to go over to a Barca coach and gouge him in the right eye, well, I simply have never seen this happen in our game before. A manager, the leader, showing his troops exactly what they should be doing to their opponent. It disrespects football and frankly makes him look like a mental.

The relevance of writing about this of course comes from one of the stranger assumptions in English football, that is that Mourinho will indeed be the next United manager after Fergie hangs up his chewing gum riddled boots. People think several reasons point to this: That Jose ‘loves’ England; that Sir Alex and Mourinho are best, wine-quaffing buddies; that United would only want the most successful manager they could obtain; That United learned a generation of pain worth of a lesson after the end of the Busby era, employing men not fit to stand in the great warhorse’s shadow. It’s so simple! It can only be the Special One for the world’s Special Club?
Wrong.

When Mourinho was given his cards by Abramovich I would’ve taken him as our next manager in a heart beat. Football is a seductive business and trophies are a fan’s aphrodisiac. Jose knew how to win. We all want a bit of that. But what I’ve witnessed in the last few years of the man stinks. He’s still managed to maintain his levels of success, taking that Inter team to Champions of Europe. Well, who would have guessed? But the way they and he did it, playing that brand of Anti-Football, it simply turns me off. It’s like seeing that absolutely gorgeous woman from afar, only to get close to her and smell her stinking, rotten breath. There’s still going be loads of lads that will look past this and be happy with her, but us at United? We wouldn’t be able to get that stench out of our nostrils!

Does this make me and United fans who agree seem pompous? Maybe. But the fact remains. I don’t want to spend thousands of £s of my own money every season to follow a team that makes me want to fall asleep as soon as the first whistle is blown. Success is often taken as something that must be achieved at all cost. In many ways that is correct. But United, like Madrid, have a tradition. Porto, Chelsea and Inter are by no means small clubs. But they were teams starved of the biggest trophies, desperate to get up that ladder at any cost. Jose preys on this. He delivers the gold and you pay him the booty he demands. He is the modern day pirate. As he did with both Porto and Inter “Here is your European Cup trophy, now I’m off to the next ship of fools.”

Mourinho will always be a man of success. He will always find a way and these are not traits of a bad manager. But I question the man. I question his integrity. Would we be happy for Sir Alex to go over and gouge at the eye of Villa-Boas? Of course not. It’s disgusting. There are many bad things happening in football and indeed the world at the minute, but as far as an isolated incident goes, with a manager on the touchline, it even makes Arsene Wenger mounting the Old Trafford dugout seem 100% sane and normal. It’s an act against the will of football. It’s sneaky and incendiary. It’s something that you may never see in top flight football again.

So I implore David Gill and his cronie bosses from across the pond to think hard about the Sir Alex exit strategy. The heart of Manchester United is what we’re considering here. We want success, of course we do, but do we need a man who now presents himself as an enemy against the Beautiful Game?

Ex-United player Gerard Pique said after the match the other night: “Someone has to take action, Mourinho is destroying Spanish football. It is going too far. This will end very badly.”

The man is totally right. Mourinho doesn’t care how Spanish football is viewed. He doesn’t even care if he is caught on video, reaching round a man’s face to claw his fingers into his eyeball. For Jose its just another act of war.

A certain Mancunian God once wrote a song called ‘Barbarism Begins At Home’. Lets hope our home, Old Trafford, avoids such an unlucky fate. If Mourinho wants to make football his slave and make it implode in chaos, let us not give him the Theatre of Dreams as his stage to do it.

Source : http://therepublikofmancunia.com/kee...-old-trafford/

[Ridwanox]

pilih JM dah ane

[robby7beckham]

anee lebih dukung mantan pemain MU sendiri gan..
yaituuuuu... driiiiinggggg.. driiingg..
ERICK 'THE KING' CANTONA !!! ane yakiiin bakal sukses gan!!

[Ridwanox]

Originally Posted by robby7beckham

anee lebih dukung mantan pemain MU sendiri gan..
yaituuuuu... driiiiinggggg.. driiingg..
ERICK 'THE KING' CANTONA !!! ane yakiiin bakal sukses gan!!

kalau menurut ane kemungkinan juaranya adalah 1 banding 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000

[fredrian.seven]

Untung laptop dah rusak... Pengen ngerasain ngelempar bata :sikat1:

[Redsbusby]

Wkwkwkwkw....
Semoga segera kembali ke jalan yg benar nak

[Ryu]

Si Ole aja.. Baby Face Assassin..

[vanmuujii]

Originally Posted by yusron

mnurut gw, baik Moyes maupun Mourinho memiliki kelebihan maupun kekurangan masing2. gw sendiri sih kalo boleh jujur lebih milih ke JM.

Moyes : gw sbenernya cukup suka ma manajer ini,soalnya dia memiliki filosofi yg ga jauh beda ama SAF,yaitu sama2 mempercayai akan PEMBINAAN PEMAIN MUDA, itu yg ga dimiliki "kandidat" yg satunya. , ditambah dia juga org skotland . Tapi tteep aja kemampuan melatihnya masih patut dipertanyakan krn dia hanya melatih tim papan tengah macem Everton yang ga bgitu bagus

kalo JM : gw yakin gada yg ngeraguin kemampuan the special one sbg manajer. smua klub yg pernah ia tangani, pasti slalu meraih hasil luar biasa, entah juara domestik lah, ato juara di Eropa. Tapi sayangnya dia berbeda dgn Moyes yg suka pmain muda, Mou lebih suka pmain "jadi" . Itu yg susah dibayangin. Bgaimana mungkin United yg sudah "terbiasa" dgn pmain muda ditangani oleh platih yg suka pmain jadi?

tapi it's oke lah, syapa pun yg nglatih tetep

bener nih setuju banget
sayangnya mourinho sekarang walaupun madrid maenya udah luar biasa keren, pas el classico ko jadi monoton terus. kalo di liga spanyol pasti madrid selalu tertinggal selangkah oleh barca. gelar pun baru sedikit kalo di united, apa ga takut bakal ngabisin uang
kalo moyes sih, saya memang suka apalagi pas musim kemaren dia sering banget dapet manager of the month karena permainan caem everton yang bisa masuk 10 besar tapi nampaknya moyes belum siap kalau harus nanganin united