Moyes Out?!

[zudomiriku]

David Moyes can have no complaints... the Stretford End lost patience and the manager lost his players: this has been disastrous from start to finish

There really can be no complaints. From a runaway steam-train last May, to a shattered train-wreck this April, there is no adjective - at least not one that could be legitimately printed in these pages - that does justice to just how appalling this season has been.

The statistics are utterly frightening, with more unwanted broken records than a vintage vinyl shop. No Champions League football for the first time since 1995. The lowest tally of Premier League points since its inception. An FA Cup exit inflicted at home by Swansea in the 3rd round.

David Moyes continues to suffer from a conviction deficit disorder in the biggest matches. Against the top eight sides sides in the Barclays Premier League, it's one victory in 13 games. In 12 matches against the top-six, United have scored two goals from open play.

Moyes is still to fill those alarming holes in his CV, still to win a trophy (no, the Community Shield doesn't count), still to win a football match away to Arsenal, Chelsea or Liverpool. In Premier League matches this season, these are the aggregate scores-on-the-doors: Merseyside 7-0 Manchester United, Manchester City 7-1 Manchester United.

Statistics can provide a skewed impression in football these days but these numbers are totally unpalatable for United supporters. Few will mourn the departure of David Moyes; the manager who has overseen a decline from 1st to 7th; the manager who has allowed Liverpool to return to the summit, the manager who has overseen a 40-point swing between Everton and Manchester United.

For United fans, the changing of managers has always been one of those things other clubs do, something to look upon with mild amusement and detached curiosity. Not anymore. Many have been reluctant to call for the manager's head but it is now impossible to eek out a redeeming feature from this chastening campaign.

Nearly every player has regressed, only David de Gea and Adnan Januzaj demonstrating signs of improvement. Wayne Rooney has put in the hard yards for the manager - which is more than can be said for many - but his best work has often been perspiration, rather than inspiration.

Most brutally, perhaps, Moyes has sucked the joy out of supporting this football club. Watching Manchester United has become a 90 minutes of lament, stale with turgid and unimaginative football.


Dismal: Moyes looked on glumly as his United side went down in pathetic fashion at Everton on Sunday

To be 2-0 down, as United were on Sunday against Everton, would in the past have been seen as a retrievable situation, something to look forward to in a final 25 minutes of helter-skelter excitement. Sir Alex Ferguson would have demanded as much. Not under Moyes' watch, who, in one of the odder scenes this season, was spotted analysing a set-piece flip-chart with Steve Round before declaring himself pleased with how United passed the ball 'brilliantly well'.

Sunday's defeat by Everton did not decide Moyes' future but it did provide irrefutable evidence that these players - and don't worry, we are getting on to them - care little for the future of their manager, producing perhaps the most anaemic and listless showing that this club has seen in the modern era. From there, you have two options and changing one manager is rather more economically viable than swapping twenty players.

Moyes' relations with this squad have been fragile, to say the least. The very same players that he sought out for personal meetings last summer - Rio Ferdinand, Nemanja Vidic and Ryan Giggs - have rarely looked at ease with him. Vidic, the captain, was happy for Inter Milan to reveal a picture, smiling after signing for the club in February. That should have been put on hold until the close season. It is not only the veterans Moyes has left disillusioned.

Every faction of the United squad has been splintered. Star player Robin van Persie has reportedly been upset with the training schedule, previously personally moulded to suit his needs. Young, homegrown talent Danny Welbeck is now considering leaving the club, frustrated at a perceived lack of opportunities in his favoured striking position. That news was revealed on the morning of the game against Everton - could you imagine such an event happening under Ferguson? Moyes, also, has struggled to rotate players in the correct way, leaving the likes of Javier Hernandez feeling unwanted and unimportant.

Regardless of any concerns over the suitability of the manager, these players should still have offered more. They would have done well to heed the words of Ferguson, who ordered them 'to remember the jersey you're wearing' in that speech last May. Too many have hid, far too ready to shift the blame onto the manager.

Yet it still does not justify the staggering decline Moyes has overseen. From the day he took over this job, he has been urged to buy into the United way, with dynamism, pace and fury in attack. He has failed to listen, his reign beginning with the startling choice to pass up on Thiago Alcantara and then move for Marouane Fellaini.

What we witness now is a squad bereft of its assurance, stripped of its risk taking and largely indifferent in defeat. United have fallen behind on 16 occasions this season in the league and on only four occasions this season have they recovered to to win a football match.

The truth is that everybody involved wanted this to work and remarkably, the fans are yet to audibly turn on the Scot inside a football stadium. That is to these supporters' utmost credit but there have been signs in recent months that the rank-and-file have grown tired of this regime. No longer do they sing Moyes' name, only chanting for their football club in defiance. 'Twenty times, twenty times, Man United', has been the ditty in recent weeks, referencing the club's record haul of league titles. On that note, Liverpool are coming for them.

There is, of course, many United supporters that will sympathise with Moyes' plight. The pressure has been enormous from the get-go. Sir Alex Ferguson's presence continued to pervade. It should be said that he does not have a direct influence, one United source describing him as 'a mere fan in the stands' but his aura was still inescapable. Quite rightly, he continued as a director and an ambassador. Quite rightly, he continued to attend games. How else are United expected to treat their greatest manager?

For Moyes, though, the pressure must have weighed heavily. On match-day, he would drive down the Sir Alex Ferguson way to reach the club's stadium, where a statue of Sir Alex Ferguson would be glaring back at him. He would look up from his seat in the dugout and see the 'Sir Alex Ferguson stand' staring him straight in the face. He would enter the director's box after the game and be greeted by a procession of United legends, past and present. Whoever you are, whatever your capabilities, however much you believe in yourself, that must have been daunting. Ultimately, though, a true contender for the position of United manager had to be able to stare down such pressure.

Strikingly, Moyes has never wore the disposition of a Manchester United manager. This is a manager whose press conferences have seen more 'tries' than Twickenham, a manager who has 'aspired' to the level of Manchester City and a manager who has labelled Liverpool as favourites before a game at Old Trafford.

At one press conference last month, before the Bayern Munich home game, Moyes was joined by Ryan Giggs. One spoke like a Manchester United manager. The other did not. If Moyes does go, Giggs is expected to take the reins for the final few games. United will be in rather safer hands.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2609491/David-Moyes-sacked-The-manager-no-complaints-frightening-season-Manchester-United.html

[zudomiriku]

Manchester United could have had Jose Mourinho but instead they ended up with David Moyes

* Glazer family do not trust Moyes with £200m summer transfer kitty
* Appointing manager without elite experience was a leap of faith by United
* United are missing their famed attacking swagger under cautious Moyes
* Moyes had a fabulous opportunity to replace Ferguson - and blew it

It would have boiled down to a simple question by the end. Can we trust this man to spend £200million? The Glazers would have sifted through all the available evidence and decided they could not. And David Moyes will cease to be Manchester United manager at the end of this season, or perhaps sooner.

The final reckoning would not have taken long. Even Moyes’s staunchest advocates had exhausted their ammunition by the time the final whistle blew at Goodison Park on Sunday. Appointing a manager without experience in the elite pool was a leap of faith and it has not been supported by results.

Had Moyes proved he could venture into new territory and thrive, then United’s owners would have willingly backed him in the transfer market this summer. Yet he has been unable to dispel the doubts that existed going into this season.

He didn’t have Champions League experience and Manchester United conducted an inconsistent campaign that ended in the desperate measure of playing Wayne Rooney, unfit, against Bayern Munich.

He didn’t have title-winning experience and United were seventh within three matches, not rising higher than fifth since. He had never won a trophy and the closest Manchester United came under him was a Capital One Cup semi-final, lost to Sunderland.

He was famed for caution at Everton and United are missing their attacking swagger this season. The job was, as predicted by a number of fearful United fans, too big for him.

And Moyes throughout his career has never spent anywhere near the sums that are set aside to revive Manchester United this summer. So why should the Glazers continue believing in him? Having failed so dismally with every other new challenge, why should he be up to this one?

Sadly, Moyes has not added one new skill to his c.v. since leaving Everton, no fresh learning, nothing to suggest he is at home in the elite. And the overhaul of United this summer is a task for a high-end coach. Big money will be spent, big names will be jettisoned.

With no Champions League, or maybe even European, football to entice leading players, United must show they mean business. The presence of Moyes does not speak of ambition, not while he still has an L-plate attached to his jacket.

Ed Woodward, Manchester United’s chief executive, travelled to Paris on the day of Chelsea’s recent Champions League quarter-final tie. He said he might not even take in the game with Paris Saint-Germain but knew that major Champions League fixtures were wonderful occasions for gathering football’s powerbrokers in one place.

Leading club executives, agents, super-agents, they would all be there. Meetings, meetings, meetings were what Woodward said he had planned. And maybe he didn’t like what he heard.

Perhaps the super-agents were not happy to place their super-clients with a club in the doldrums and a lame duck manager who could be gone by Christmas if results did not improve. Perhaps Woodward discovered that with, say, Carlo Ancelotti at the helm, talks would progress more smoothly.

MOYES' BROKEN RECORDS

* First time Everton have beaten United home and away since 1969-70
* First time Everton and Liverpool have done a league double over United in the same season
* First time Man City and Liverpool have beaten United home and away in the same season since the Premier League started
* First time United have conceded a first-minute goal in the Premier League (Edin Dzeko for Man City)
* Guaranteed to finish the season with their lowest Premier League points tally
* First time failed to qualify for the Champions League since 1995
* First time suffered three defeats in a row since 2001
* Eliminated in the FA Cup third round, something which happened just once under Ferguson
* First ever home defeat by Swansea
* First home defeat by Newcastle since 1972
* First home defeat by West Bromwich since 1978
* First league defeat by Stoke since 1984

It is pointless pretending Moyes carries the same clout as his contemporaries at the major European clubs. He couldn’t entice Leighton Baines from Everton and they had worked together for six years.

Ancelotti, or Louis van Gaal, would bring a contacts book and a gold standard reputation. Their presence shows a club has intent, their track records increase expectation of success. Moyes’s next trophy will be his first.

He no doubt imagined breaking his duck with Manchester United but that has not happened. He has no profile among players beyond these shores — and what little he does is now bad.

He’s the guy who stuffed up at Manchester United; just as, over here, it is Gerardo Martino’s duff season at Barcelona, not his eight titles in South America, that are known. With the Champions League creating a semi-permanent elite, football is no longer fluid as it once was. There is a hierarchy and Moyes is not part of it, no matter the endorsement of Sir Alex Ferguson.



That is what will end with Moyes’s departure, too. Manchester United: the Ferguson years. While the Chosen One occupied his seat, the hope was that the Ferguson dynasty continued. Here was a manager cast in his image, with the same values, capable of seamless transition.

It was hoped the old ways would remain, but what now? Ancelotti is a calming presence, a healer, but Jurgen Klopp is a German heavy metal fan with a nose for mischief, and Jose Mourinho learned many of his confrontational skills from Van Gaal, now believed to be the leading candidate.

Whoever comes will rip up what remains of the existing blueprint because paramount importance is a swift return to the Champions League. Adnan Januzaj aside, Manchester United next season will largely be restructured around proven, established internationals or young players who have already made the Premier League grade, such as Luke Shaw.

This is not a grandiose project, but a pragmatic, quick and expensive fix of this season’s malaise. Had Mourinho been available, he would have been perfect for the task. Some will argue, with justification, that he should have got the job in the first place.


Making the call: Executive vice chairman Ed Woodward speaks to Moyes at the training ground this season

There will be sympathy for Moyes, stepping into Ferguson’s giant shoes and falling headlong down the stairs, but the bottom line is he got a fabulous opportunity and blew it.

He did not inherit a vintage Manchester United team but it still won the title by 11 points, scored 11 more goals than any rival and had a goal difference superior by seven. The defence was the most porous of any team in the top four but, even so, nobody can have expected a collapse of this magnitude.

If Moyes cannot move the club beyond seventh place, Manchester United will have equalled the worst title defence in Premier League history, matched only by Blackburn Rovers the season after Kenny Dalglish departed.

The most damning numbers, however, concern their performances against the better teams. In 17 league matches against clubs in the top half of the table, Moyes has won just three: Stoke City on October 26, Arsenal on November 10 and Newcastle United on April 5.

He is the first Manchester United manager to lose home and away to Liverpool and Everton in the same season, the first to lose at home to Swansea City, the first to fail to qualify for the Champions League since 1995, the first to concede in the opening minute of a Premier League match, the first to lose three games in a row since 2001, the first to lose at home to Newcastle since 1972, the first to lose at home to West Bromwich Albion since 1978 and to Stoke since 1984.

He went out in the third round of the FA Cup, which Ferguson suffered only once in his Old Trafford career and, even if Moyes wins all of his four remaining matches, this will be Manchester United’s lowest points total in the history of the Premier League.

As if this was not bad enough, the rise of Liverpool — and on a personal note the improvement at Everton under Roberto Martinez — has put Moyes’s struggles into sharp relief. While United have plummeted, Liverpool have risen, from seventh to first in what may represent the greatest improvement by any championship-winning team in English football since Everton under Howard Kendall in 1983-84.

And Liverpool’s rebirth is what Manchester United fear most, not just as a local rival but as a force in the marketplace. Liverpool were a global brand in 1989 when Michael Knighton was still juggling balls on the pitch at Old Trafford, and if they take their place among Europe’s elite again there will be older generations across Asia, in particular, primed and waiting to influence the next editions of the family.

Manchester United’s revenue streams are those of the market leader, but a well-run Liverpool with an eye on commercial opportunities abroad could, if not match them, then at least take a significant slice of that action.

If the Premier League trophy is secured at Anfield on May 11, its next destination after the open-top bus parade through the city the following day will be Dublin for a game against Shamrock Rovers on May 14, followed by a trip to Mauritius to play Celtic, provisionally, on May 18. Then there is the pre-season tour of the United States, taking in Chicago, New York and Charlotte.

These are all traditional United strongholds, suddenly under threat. Chelsea have encroached on United’s territory, too, with Premier League chief executive Richard Scudamore now listing the London club among those with a significant following abroad. Woodward, the United chief executive, has been hailed as a wonder salesman, but he has never had to sell a club in seventh place before — to big business, big agents or big players.

Moyes is the first casualty of that unexpected challenge. Wondering whether the manager could grow into the job was just another question United’s bosses had no time to answer.

Ultimately, Moyes wasn’t the Chosen One, or even a special one. Instead, he became the Problem One. And swiftly, that problem has been solved. Clearing the mess left behind, however, suggests a fresh set of problems for United are only just beginning.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2609759/Manchester-United-Jose-Mourinho-instead-ended-David-Moyes.html

[zudomiriku]

Video: #MoyesOut vs. #MoyesIn in Manchester United Rap Battle



With all the reports swirling about the fate of Manchester United manager David Moyes, to absolutely no one's surprise, the Internet was rife with the #MoyesOut vs. #MoyesIn arguments.

One YouTube user, identified as Dan Bull by FullTimeDEVILS, created a rap to exemplify the arguments of both sides.

Highlights include Moyes' cross-happy tactics described as a pinball machine and Moyes dressed as Alex Ferguson's bride.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2036609-video-moyesout-vs-moyesin-in-manchester-united-rap-battle

[fredrian.seven]

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Fe...vid-moyes.aspx

Sah!!!

[rondwisan]

Finally .......
Gk tau nih, mo seneng apa sedih ....., what a mix ?!?!

[tukang-las]

Manchester United ‏@ManUtd_ID 1m BREAKING: Manchester United mengumumkan bahwa David Moyes telah meninggalkan klub. (part 1 dari 2) #mufc


jahhh...beneran tuh

3 match...dan apa yg bisa giggs lakukan untuk menyelamatkan musim???

[fredrian.seven]

Originally Posted by rondwisan

Finally .......
Gk tau nih, mo seneng apa sedih ....., what a mix ?!?!

Saya ya sedih juga, tapi turut senang.

Thread resmi ditutup... Ternyata Moyes bukan orang yang tepat buat United

[tukang-las]

Originally Posted by fredrian.seven

Saya ya sedih juga, tapi turut senang.

Thread resmi ditutup... Ternyata Moyes bukan orang yang tepat buat United

harusnya nunggu posting perpisahan dari TS nya...


#eehh ...

[smile_boy]

Pasukan #moyesout bikin acara syukuran donkk

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[fredrian.seven]

Originally Posted by tukang-las

Manchester United ‏@ManUtd_ID 1m BREAKING: Manchester United mengumumkan bahwa David Moyes telah meninggalkan klub. (part 1 dari 2) #mufc


jahhh...beneran tuh

3 match...dan apa yg bisa giggs lakukan untuk menyelamatkan musim???

Milih mana sih 3 pertandingan atau 6 musim

Selamat masbro, doa terkabul meski telat sayang temen masbro lagi kuning. Klo nggak pasti menggila sana sini.