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Old 11-11-2010, 03:42 PM   #441
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trus angka-angka tersebut artinya apaan? kan pasti ada maksudnya?
Statistik mengatakan kehadiran Berba lebih banyak membawa kemenangan ketimbang tanpa berba.. 71 % banding 64%
tapi statistik juga mengatakan Kehadiran Berba juga banyak membawa kekalahan ketimbang tanpa Berba 13 % banding 11%
dari sini bisa diliat gap persentase nya(berba/tanpa berba) 8 % menang dan 2% kalah membuktikan kalo Berba berkontribusi buat tim...
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Old 11-11-2010, 03:48 PM   #442
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Statistik mengatakan kehadiran Berba lebih banyak membawa kemenangan ketimbang tanpa berba.. 71 % banding 64%
tapi statistik juga mengatakan Kehadiran Berba juga banyak membawa kekalahan ketimbang tanpa Berba 13 % banding 11%
dari sini bisa diliat gap persentase nya(berba/tanpa berba) 8 % menang dan 2% kalah membuktikan kalo Berba berkontribusi buat tim...
hhhmmmmm bisa dibuat menyimpulkan kek gitu ya? dr angka-angka kek gitu bisa buat menyimpulkan seberapa besar kontribusi pemain thd tim.. jangan2 ntar kalo' diitung-itungan pake' cara kek gitu Chicharito, Macheda resultnya bisa lebih gede dari dia? mungkin gak sih kek gitu?

kalo' sistem rapelan kek gitu feeling saya koq jatuhnya ntar malah Evra yg paling gede kontribusinya
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hhhmmmmm bisa dibuat menyimpulkan kek gitu ya? dr angka-angka kek gitu bisa buat menyimpulkan seberapa besar kontribusi pemain thd tim.. jangan2 ntar kalo' diitung-itungan pake' cara kek gitu Chicharito, Macheda resultnya bisa lebih gede dari dia? mungkin gak sih kek gitu?

kalo' sistem rapelan kek gitu feeling saya koq jatuhnya ntar malah Evra yg paling gede kontribusinya
Ya kalo gw baca statistik cuma kayak gitu, kalo menurut lo gimana ?
ato ada ahli statistik yang menjelaskan ...
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Ya kalo gw baca statistik cuma kayak gitu, kalo menurut lo gimana ?
ato ada ahli statistik yang menjelaskan ...
lha kan saya nanya... koq saya masih blum bisa menyimpulkan apa-apa n ragu2 dg angka2 kek gitu bisa menggambarkan sesuatu spt kondisi riil yg terjadi selama ini.
kek ketakutan saya... takutnya Macheda kalo' diitung-itung jatuhnya lebih produktif dan prosentase kontribusinya lebih besar buat tim.. tp kenapa jatuhnya SAF lebih milih striker yg laen drpd yg reguler dipasang selama ini.
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Interpretasi sebuah data,,,,bisa jadi berbeda antara satu pihak dengan pihak yang lain.....

Kalau saya sih melihatnya data itu seperti sebuah laporan keuangan yang diaudit, maka auditornya akan memberikan penilaian wajar dengan catatan.

Dalam 100 pertandingan jumlah gol secara total yg dicetak 33 gol,,,,, kalau saya melihatnya kurang konsisten. Faktanya di UNITED saat ini posisi berba adalah striker, dan mau tidak mau kontribusinya bisa diukur lewat jumlah gol....

Saya tertarik dg pernyataan berba di IU. Dia menyatakan bahwa dia bukanlah seorang pemain dengan gaya bermain sebagai striker tengah, Dia juga tidak terlalu suka melompat dan berjibaku untuk memperebutkan bola.

That's all cleared,,,, berba memang memiliki kemampuan yg luar biasa. Akan tetapi sayang, dari sudut pandang saya pribadi berba kurang efektif
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Interpretasi sebuah data,,,,bisa jadi berbeda antara satu pihak dengan pihak yang lain.....

Kalau saya sih melihatnya data itu seperti sebuah laporan keuangan yang diaudit, maka auditornya akan memberikan penilaian wajar dengan catatan.

Dalam 100 pertandingan jumlah gol secara total yg dicetak 33 gol,,,,, kalau saya melihatnya kurang konsisten. Faktanya di UNITED saat ini posisi berba adalah striker, dan mau tidak mau kontribusinya bisa diukur lewat jumlah gol....

Saya tertarik dg pernyataan berba di IU. Dia menyatakan bahwa dia bukanlah seorang pemain dengan gaya bermain sebagai striker tengah, Dia juga tidak terlalu suka melompat dan berjibaku untuk memperebutkan bola.

That's all cleared,,,, berba memang memiliki kemampuan yg luar biasa. Akan tetapi sayang, dari sudut pandang saya pribadi berba kurang efektif
tp pas di Leverkusen wokeh loh.. gak maen2 torehan golnya.. coba cek link yg saya kasih tadi... diatas 20 gol terus per musim... trus di Spurs lumayan juga lho... bisa cetak 20 gol semusim masa' kurang efektif?
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Kontribusi tidak melulu dari gol, walau pun dia striker yang job desc cetak gol..
hal ini diamini oleh SAF sendiri..
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Wuih berarti berba pembawa keberuntungan ya...kok seakan2 malah kaya jd mengecilkan peran pemain lain ya...

Bukankah sepakbola itu 11 pemain ya...lah trus kl misal kaya oshea gt gmn tuh stat nya? Apa bisa di blg dia berperan penting jg kl misal mang pas dia maen united lbh banyak menang drpd saat dia ga maen?

Semua punya peran ya pasti lah..cuma sejauh mana peran itu dlm tim yg harus di bahas..
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Dan setelah berba mengakui bahwa dia lbh berminat jd gelandang drpd jd striker sudah jelas terlihat bahwa mang berba yg mw maen lbh ke bawah...

Jadi saat ada statement itu,gw ud ga ngarep dia cetak gol sebanyak jumlah yg biasa di hasilkan striker..krn dia sendiri tidak merasa sebagai striker:-)
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Wuih berarti berba pembawa keberuntungan ya...kok seakan2 malah kaya jd mengecilkan peran pemain lain ya...

Bukankah sepakbola itu 11 pemain ya...lah trus kl misal kaya oshea gt gmn tuh stat nya? Apa bisa di blg dia berperan penting jg kl misal mang pas dia maen united lbh banyak menang drpd saat dia ga maen?

Semua punya peran ya pasti lah..cuma sejauh mana peran itu dlm tim yg harus di bahas..
inilah salah satu ketakutan saya oom... takutnya ya itu.. O'shea maennya gak seberapa sering tp seringnya di partai yg United menang.. jatuhnya O'shea sangat berkontribusi bagi United.. mungkin dibandingkan dg Evra, Rooney, Vidic dan Berba jatuhnya lebih gede O'shea prosentasenya... apakah angka itu menggambarkan kondisi riil dilapangan?
makanya brita yg dikutip td trus diembel2i statistik2 tadi maksudnya apaan ya sama orang detik.com tadi ya?
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