[Part IV] Are City stronger than United?

[DeE_]

ibarat tim skrg masih cari jati diri, kembali dari enol..pemain masih liat apa yg di inginkan pelatih di lapangan, pelatih masih liat kelebihan n kekurangan apa dari tiap2 pemain..belum ada yg fix..yg jadi sorotan di tengah asli ambrol, jadi titik paling lemah jika di banding kompetitor lainnya...Sangat di sayangkan moyes lebih pilih staff sndiri dibandingkan staff opa..nasi uda jadi bubur n show must go on..

[troy andreas]

Dengan tambahan 3 gol di match COC semalam, City sudah mencetak 75 gol disemua kompetisi dimusim ini.

47 di 16 pertandingan Premier League.
18 di 6 pertandingan UCL
10 gol di Carling Cup/ Capital One Cup.

United????

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I thought United were the only team that existed in Manchester! Alves claims he'd never heard of City until five years ago

Manuel Pellegrini kicked off the biggest week of his Manchester City career by insisting his side are a bigger club than neighbours United.

That view, however, has hardly travelled across to Spain, where Barcelona star Dani Alves admitted he hadn't even heard of City until a few years ago.

Alves and his Barca team-mates take on City at the Etihad on Tuesday night in the home side's first-ever Champions League knockout tie.


Strike a pose: Barca star Dani Alves, training at the Etihad, admits he hadn't heard of City five years ago

'I didn't realise until about five years ago that Manchester had two teams,' said Alves. 'Of course Manchester United have been one of the most famous and successful clubs in Europe for many years - but I thought they were the only one.'

'When Manchester City got new owners and started buying some of the best players in Europe everybody knew who they were - but until then I must be honest I didn't know about them.

I think this is the reality of modern football. You don't need ten or 20 years to establish yourself - if you have rich owners you can do it in two or three years. It doesn't matter if I or anybody else agree with it - it is just the reality of today.'

However, Alves was under no illusion of the threat Pellegrini's side pose to the Spanish champions, even if the Barcelona head into the tie as favourites.

City have led the way in Europe in terms of goals, netting an incredible 117 times in all competitions so far.

He said: 'We have to give Manchester City total respect because they have so many great players.

'They have shown as an attacking force they are very strong - and their midfield and forward players have been scoring a lot of goals.

'We need to make sure that doesn't happen on Tuesday - and we have a very experienced defence capable of stopping them.

'We know at home they are very strong - but nobody in Barcelona is thinking of a draw - that would compromise everything that we stand for. We must acknowledge they are a very strong team - but our objective will be what it always is and that is to win.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2562105/I-didnt-know-Manchester-two-teams-Barca-star-Alves-delivers-City-swipe.html

[Aso Chrisjefta]

Haahaha untuk musim ini ?? lihat saja nanti deh pas main lawan city Dalam segala hal, memang United kalah dari City, tinggal gimana daya juang United musim ini untuk menghadapi masa transisi yang begitu berat.

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Man City better than Man Utd - Manuel Pellegrini

Manchester City manager Manuel Pellegrini says his side have become the dominant force in the city this season, as they prepare to take on Barcelona in the last 16 of the Champions League on Tuesday.



The Chilean acknowledged Manchester United's record, but said City's results in the present campaign meant they had overtaken their rivals.

"If we only consider this season, there is just one club in Manchester and it is ours," he said. "But you cannot forget what United have done."

He added: "We are aiming to keep growing by winning many trophies - not just national but international trophies."

City are third in the Premier League and trail Chelsea by three points with a game in hand.

They have reached the final of the Capital One Cup, are in the last eight of the FA Cup and, including their Champions League quest, are challenging for four trophies this season.

Meanwhile, 20-time league champions United are seventh in the top flight and face Olympiakos in the last 16 of the Champions League, but have been knocked out of both the domestic cup competitions.

City will be without Sergio Aguero for the visit of the Catalan giants, but Pellegrini says Brazilian midfielder Fernandinho could feature as he returned to training on Monday.

"It is a good test. It is important," Pellegrini said of Barcelona. "But I don't think it is the most important thing because we are just in the round of 16.
"We can beat Barcelona and maybe in the next round you can have defeat. This club is trying to develop those areas.

"So far we have had a good season and we must finish that way. One of our targets is to continue in the Champions League knowing we play against the most important club in the world."

Lionel Messi is expected to spearhead the Barcelona attack at Etihad Stadium, but Pellegrini said City would have to do more than simply stop the Argentina international in order to win.

"He is a top player of the world," Pellegrini said. "He has a lot of different things.

"He is fit, has a good finish, but I don't think Barcelona is Messi. You can have Messi tight and other players will decide the game."

The City manager went on to say comparisons with the Barcelona side that won the Champions League in 2009 and 2011, were not fair. "It is a different team," he said.

"It is very difficult to continue in the same level Barca played in the same level three years ago but if you review the season, they are top of the Spanish league, in last 16 of Champions League and in final of the Spanish Cup.

"If we are to have a good result we must play a very good game."

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/26226901

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Manchester City: Bigger Than Manchester United—Did Pellegrini Have a Point?



Not known for displays of pre-match bombast, Manuel Pellegrini stole the headline on the eve of Manchester City’s UEFA Champions League encounter with Barcelona.

Invited to assess the contrasting fortunes of Manchester’s clubs this season, Pellegrini stated City are now “bigger” than bitter rivals United, as reported by The Guardian.

Given his astonishing attack on referee Jonas Eriksson in the wake of the 2-0 loss to Barca—an outburst reported by BBC Sport that questioned both the official’s integrity and the standing of his native Sweden in world football—the normally placid Chilean might want to avoid whatever it was he had for breakfast last week.

But with City having established themselves as a major power in English football on the back of Sheikh Mansour’s phenomenal wealth, Pellegrini’s former remarks will continue to resonate.

The Blues aim to complete the full set of domestic trophies during the Mansour era when they take on Sunderland in the Capital One Cup final on Sunday.

Against this backdrop, maybe it is worth asking whether City are now, or soon could be, bigger than United.

Using the measurements many football fans understandably fall back on, the short and logical answer is no.

Manchester United’s phenomenal trophy haul under Sir Alex Ferguson established them as the lone superpower in English football’s modern era.

When City’s Etihad Stadium is expanded to 62,000 seats in 2015, it will still be dwarfed by the behemoth across town.

United can already pack 76,000 into Old Trafford and continue to do so despite their ailing fortunes under David Moyes. Admittedly, this might change if they keep threatening to ban season ticket holders for missing Champions League games, as per the Manchester Evening News.

But how likely is it that Pellegrini was referring to fanbase size when labelling City as bigger than their neighbours? It is worth remembering the quote that captured global attention came via an interpreter.

The translation hit upon an emotive word, especially in such a proud and partizan football city. Pellegrini freely mentioned United's decorated recent past in the same breath and cast a glance towards City's potentially decorated future. A bigger future, some might say.

City are inarguably better placed than their crosstown rivals right now, in contention for an unprecedented domestic treble.

Moyes’ men face the prospective double blow of no silverware and no Champions League football following Tuesday night’s humiliating reverse at Olympiacos. City are likely to be the bigger threat to Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Real Madrid and the rest next season.



Whether or not United secure a top four place in the Premier League this term, a substantial rebuilding operation is set to take place this summer.

As reported by Chris Wheeler of The Daily Mail Moyes will be armed with a substantial transfer war chest and tasked with building the next great United team.

The reasonable question to ask here is whether the Scot has shown himself to be up to such a task.

Alongside fresh-faced chief executive Ed Woodward, Moyes has presided over public failures to secure Ander Herrera, Cesc Fabregas and Leighton Baines, as per Ian Herbert of the Independent. Marouane Fellaini and Juan Mata arrived but for massively inflated fees.

Wayne Rooney has a place at the centre of the rebuilding operation—a £300,000 per-week contract and an inside line to the club's transfer dealings, the reward for twice pondering whether his future might be better spent elsewhere, as discussed by The Guardian's Daniel Taylor.

Meanwhile, Jamie Jackson of the same newspaper reports Rooney's strike partner and the architect of last season’s triumph, Robin van Persie, is eyeing pastures new.

United supporters rightfully chortled when City regularly paid over the odds in the aftermath of their takeover and outspoken former chief executive Garry Cook informed BBC Sport that AC Milan had "bottled" a deal to sell them Brazilian superstar Kaka. Now they find uncomfortable parallels on their own doorstep.

Carlos Tevez’s career at City—an unqualified success on the pitch—lurched from transfer requests to withering assessments of Manchester before taking a six-month sojourn in his homeland.

Never would you see such nonsense at Old Trafford. That was not how the biggest club in the world built its empire. Yet now they must ponder their feelings over Rooney’s windfall and enhanced status.

Only 18 months ago, City made a horrific mess of their summer transfer business.

Having missed out on major targets, namely Van Persie as per The Daily Mirror, an unseemly deadline day version of Supermarket Sweep was hastily launched.

Javi Garcia, Scott Sinclair, Maicon, Matija Nastasic and Richard Wright all arrived. The league title was lost by 11 points.

But if Txiki Begiristain and Ferran Soriano’s first year steering City’s business is anything to go by, the Eastlands faithful can be optimistic.

In Fernandinho, Jesus Navas, Alvaro Negredo and Stevan Jovetic, they acquired high class with the minimum of fuss. Last month, The Daily Mail reported they baulked at Porto’s asking price for Eliaquim Mangala and Fernando, demonstrating that City no longer wish to pay completely crazy fees on account of their phenomenal wealth.

Even so, throwing money around is regularly frowned upon as an end itself at Manchester United.

Ferguson might have smashed numerous transfer records during his time at the helm, but a local nucleus remained. Ryan Giggs, David Beckham, Paul Scholes, the Neville brothers; that was the United way.

As such, another uncomfortable reality may lie some way down the road. Vast investment into the City Football Academy, due to open this summer, is at the heart of City’s plans to promote high class from within.

If anywhere in Manchester produces the next string of first-teamers nurtured through the ranks, it is likely to be the Etihad Campus.

City will not replace United as Manchester's biggest club any time soon. Unfortunately for those at Old Trafford, other role reversals are flashing past with alarming frequency.

The challenge for City is to reap the rewards of these changes, starting this Sunday. If they can entrench them over the coming months and years, statements such as Pellegrini's will raise fewer eyebrows.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1974666-manchester-city-bigger-than-manchester-united-did-pellegrini-have-a-point

[aansmth]

analisis BBC sport musim lalu
CITY : better player
UNITED : better team
so yah, opa SAF membentuk sebuah tim (UNITED) yang solid
dari dulu itu yang selalu bikin gue kagum
bukan yang instant kaya tetangga sebelah

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MUTV annoy City by baiting Barca fans visiting Old Trafford ahead of Euro clash

* Manchester City are not impressed with MUTV asking Barcelona fans to mock their history

Manchester City are not impressed with the in-house Old Trafford TV station encouraging Barcelona fans to mock City’s lack of history compared to United’s glittering back story.

An MUTV camera crew was outside Old Trafford talking to Barca supporters, who were visiting the stadium ahead of the Champions League game at the Etihad, with the questioning designed to be at City’s expense.

The staged answers included: ‘Manchester is known as Manchester United’ . . . ‘Apart from the last two years, Manchester City is not known in Spain’ . . . ‘The comparison is like between Barcelona and Espanyol’.


Tourists: Barcelona fans flocked to Old Trafford for a look when they visited Manchester

There is surprise at City that MUTV should resort to such small-minded ideas during a troubled period. City policy, since their Carlos Tevez ‘Welcome to Manchester’ poster after he switched clubs in 2009, has been to not rile the neighbours. And even at United, there is criticism with one official saying: ‘We take a dim view of this.’

MUTV’s TV listings are also open to ridicule, with Thursday’s schedule having All The Own Goals followed by Moyes: The first six months.


Statement: Manchester City put up a poster in the city centre after signing Carlos Tevez in 2009

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-2570481/MUTV-annoy-City-baiting-Barca-fans-visiting-Old-Trafford-ahead-Euro-clash.html

[TheCANTONA]

klo mau kita bedah saja pemain starter klub masing2

United: DDG;Rafael,Rio,Vida,Evra;Valencia,Carrick,Clev,Mat a;Rooney,Rvp

Citeh: Hart;Zabaleta,Kompeni,Nastasic,Clichy;Nasir,Yaya,F ernandinho,Silva;Aguero,Negredo

klo digabung kira2 macam gini komposisinya:

DDG:Rafael,Kompeni,Nastasic,Evra;Mata,Carrick,Yaya ,Silva:Aguero,RvP

ada 6 pemain United dan 5 pemain citeh, b'arti masih unggul tipis united tp yah di sisi pelatihan dan manajerial united yg kalah jauh dari citeh

[babol]

Utk saat ini sih jelas skuad+manager City lebih kuat dan lebih stabil dibanding United. Emang ga bisa tutup mata, sejak di gelontorin "arab money" City mulai progress menjadi serious contender di Liga Inggris, tinggal tunggu waktunya utk mereka juga step up dan bicara di kancah eropa.