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Old 01-06-2010, 01:32 PM   #1
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Default Jaap Stam vs Nemanja Vidic

Kita tau dua pemain jangkar MU beda generasi ini adalah bek-bek asing terbaik yg di miliki MU di era premiership...
Staam sukses dgn MU99 nya dan Vidic sukses dengan MU08 nya, dua2nya karang kokoh dan benteng kokoh di pertahanan MU....

So kl harus memilih, siapakah yg terbaik dari dua gladiator pertahanan MU ini??
Share dengan alasan2 masuk akal, kl bs mengurai sisi baik dan sisi lemah kedua nya akan lebih nikmat di baca...
Komen yg baik tentu harus di apresiasi dengan cendol yang segar, selamat berdiskusi....
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Old 01-06-2010, 01:41 PM   #2
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Susah nih... Ibarat ngebandingin Baresi sama Beckenbauer...
Susah.. Ini bener2 subjektif... 2-2nya punya prestasi yang bagus di MU, 2-2nya punya skill defender yg solid..
Mungkin yang bisa nentuin mana yg lebih baik mungkin dengan statistik...
Tapi gw pribadi lebih suka Stam... Pengaruh dia di defence line United lebih baik dr Vidic...
Just Like Keane in Midfield and Schmikes in Goal..
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Old 01-06-2010, 01:45 PM   #3
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Hahhahahaha..... Agak sama dengan om panda,gw mrasa staam sdikit diatas angin drpd vidic, staam kokoh bgt di depan schmikes....
Tp jgn lupa vidic tampil lebih lama dan stabil di MU, hal mana yg tidak terjadi pd staam,dan vidic mungkin lebih bs meredam omongan nya drpd staam....
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Hahahahahahaha... Itu kan faktor X, bro... Hehhehe... Comel yah? Ambekan... Kaya RVN juga...
Untung VDS ga ikutan...
Stam lebih no nonsense deh kayanya... Vidic gw ngeliatnya suka bermain dengan api di belakang...
2-2 nya bgs di Marking, Heading, and nyerang pi yah itu area commandnya Stam lebih bagus... Padahal tandemnya Stam cuma Ronny Johnsen and David May...
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Old 01-06-2010, 02:09 PM   #5
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beuh...Johnsen juga salah satu bek tertangguh yang pernah aku lihat bro Athma...

dia salah satu bek yang bisa mematikan Ronaldo (Brazil) dimasa jayanya...

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aku juga sulit menentukan pilihan nih...

kinerja Jaap Stam terbantu oleh Schmeichel yang sering mengkoordinasikan (baca: teriak2 sama pemain) pertahanan...beda dengan van der Sar...lalu tim kita lebih seimbang pada masa Stam...karena lini tengah kita masih punya Keane...
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stam is stronger and more tenacious than vida... while the serbian is better in scoring goal...

gw inget banget si jaap nyetop pergerakan shearer (cmiiw) di match perdana EPL 00/01 dengan cara yg luar biasa, sampe komentator bilang: "like a rock!"

kalo golnya, setau gw cuma ke gawang leicester doank pas ngebantai 6-2 di season treble...

sedangkan vida, dia juga kuat & bagus, tapi entah kenapa yang lebih gw inget justru gol2 sundulannya (dan red cardnya pas lawan bango ) terutama yang lawan inter di 08/09...

so penilaian gw secara keseluruhan: I prefer stam 50,01 : 49,99 vida
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beuh...Johnsen juga salah satu bek tertangguh yang pernah aku lihat bro Athma...

dia salah satu bek yang bisa mematikan Ronaldo (Brazil) dimasa jayanya...

btt:

aku juga sulit menentukan pilihan nih...

kinerja Jaap Stam terbantu oleh Schmeichel yang sering mengkoordinasikan (baca: teriak2 sama pemain) pertahanan...beda dengan van der Sar...lalu tim kita lebih seimbang pada masa Stam...karena lini tengah kita masih punya Keane...
yup... tapi kalo perbandingannya dengan Ferdinand, ane rasa Johnsen masih dibawah Rio...
tapi yah itu.. mungkin dari faktor back fournya juga menentukan...

99 dengan back four. Gazza, Stam, Johnsen, and Irwin ngelawan Gazza/Brown, Vidic, Rio and Evra...

Susah banget... yah mungkin, sama2 kuat dibandingnkan dengan keadaan saat itu... mungkin kalo kita iseng menukar mereka pada masanya.. pasti hasilnya juga akan beda.. hehehehe...
tapi lucu juga tuh kalo dituker... ^^
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Default Re: Jaap Stam vs Nemanja Vidic

Jaap : Kokoh sekokoh karang
Nemanja : Kokoh sekokoh batu
Digabung Jaap-Nemanja sekokoh batu karang.
Keduanya berasal dari club medioker Eropa -Jaap : PSV, Nemanja : Spartak-.
Susah menjelaskan kekurangan mereka sekalipun masanya Jaap itu ada clash dengan Opa namun faktanya itu mslh kecil coz saat ini Jaap diangkat Opa jadi salah satu Scout cmiiw.

Perbedaan mendasar sedikit adalah masa bakti Nemanja yang lebih lama dibanding Jaap.
No matter what partner mereka (dicompare pada masanya) mereke still number one!

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Gw juga ngeliatnya kalo stam itu jauh lebih konsentrasi sama pekerjaannya... (at least gw ngeliat belakangan ini Vidic kok lack concentration), dan juga si Stam jauh lebih baik dalam urusan mentackle bersih... coz Vidic looks like dia terlalu banyak melakukan foul..
But, Vidic is good in the air... dia selalu connect sama cross musuh.. entah kenapa... ? (^^")

And yes.. Vidic is better goalscorer... Vidic is like Johnsen in attacking set pieces... Beda dengan Stam... his positioning in attacking set piece is not that great (or maybe not enough Luck.. )

Tapi dua-duanya sangat sangat kuat dalam bertahan...

Yang pasti... I prefer Stam on my dream team than Vidic...
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yup... tapi kalo perbandingannya dengan Ferdinand, ane rasa Johnsen masih dibawah Rio...
tapi yah itu.. mungkin dari faktor back fournya juga menentukan...

99 dengan back four. Gazza, Stam, Johnsen, and Irwin ngelawan Gazza/Brown, Vidic, Rio and Evra...

Susah banget... yah mungkin, sama2 kuat dibandingnkan dengan keadaan saat itu... mungkin kalo kita iseng menukar mereka pada masanya.. pasti hasilnya juga akan beda.. hehehehe...
tapi lucu juga tuh kalo dituker... ^^
hwhwhwh...

kalau soal man marking sih...aku berpendapat Johnsen lebih baik dari Vida, Rio dan Stam...

tapi overall...iya...Rio lebih memiliki kualitas daripada Johnsen...teknik, pembacaan situasi dan pengambilan keputusannya lebih baik...

kalau kekuatan bertahan sih...overall pertahanan tim 98/99 lebih kuat...
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