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Old 04-07-2013, 01:38 PM   #1371
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itulah alasan ane g terlalu berharap bnyk beli pemaen united,karna stok pemaen yg mantap dan mumpuni jg ckp byk
daehli udh pindah rada bingung jg dgn skp moyes,
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Yah masalahnya lagi, ini United bukan Everton atau Aston Villa, kita nggak cuman bicara gimana kasih slot youngster di team utama
Masalahnya lagi ..., target yg dipikul Moyes tidak seperti di club sebelumnya, tapi kelangsungan pencapaian prestasi tertinggi alias trophy
Seperti udah sempet disinggung Oom @sir_otz dimana club2 pesaing telah memperkuat diri dengan nama2 besar dan pemain yg siap tempur di level senior, United tidak bisa hanya mengandalkan pemain2 binaannya semata ..
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Kalau untuk musim ini 90% enggak bakal terjadi. Why? Barusan baca berita Oom @iamsetia yg quote Ronaldo kayak gini:

Setelah berita Ronaldo gencar balik ke United, back to PHP again

Ane juga setuju stock winger yg dikurangi. IMO sih Ashley Young. Sebenarnya pemain ini mantap buat lari. Kakinya panjang bener tapi body'nya kuraaang....

Diantara Thiago / Strootman untuk pengisi lini tengah, dua-duanya punya kelebihan. Thiago bisa jadi penerus Scholes, Strootman bisa jadi penerus Carrick.

Cleverley? Dilihat dari sisi pandang positif:
Apabila memang Thiago masuk, Cleverley bakal semakin termotivasi untuk tampil lebih baik lagi. Persaingan antara lini tengah.

Feeling ane, Ando juga bakal keluar nih..
Kalo ando kayanya hampir pasti bakal keluar soalnya bakal gadapet kesempatan kalo thiago bener bener masuk , slain itu strootman kayanya susah didatengin soalnya PSV gak mau jual strootman ke utd -_-
Gimana kalo cabaye ? Walaupun rumor nya tipis menurut agan gimana tuh ?
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Yah masalahnya lagi, ini United bukan Everton atau Aston Villa, kita nggak cuman bicara gimana kasih slot youngster di team utama
Masalahnya lagi ..., target yg dipikul Moyes tidak seperti di club sebelumnya, tapi kelangsungan pencapaian prestasi tertinggi alias trophy
Seperti udah sempet disinggung Oom @sir_otz dimana club2 pesaing telah memperkuat diri dengan nama2 besar dan pemain yg siap tempur di level senior, United tidak bisa hanya mengandalkan pemain2 binaannya semata ..
yup, target united sama everton jelas beda. di united, ga dapet piala 2 tahun, kemungkinan dipecat semakin besar. dan tentu saja untuk bersaing dengan klub2 kuat lainnya di EPL maupun Eropa, united harus punya pemain bagus, entah beli atau diambil dari akademi.

karena ga ada pemain bagus di akademi, maka united akan beli pemain bagus dari luar klub. dan mungkin hal tersebut akan berulang setiap musim. semakin sering united beli pemain dari luar, semakin jarang pemain akademi mendapatkan kesempatan tampil di level yang tinggi. dan semakin mereka jarang tampil, semakin sulit progress nya, walupun mereka disebut2 sebagai calon pemain hebat di united.
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Moyes blom dateng isu kenceng banget, eh pas Moyes resmi dateng malah ilang tuh isu2. Adem... sepi....
Apakah ini pertanda Moyes ga akan beli pemain??
Let's see aja deh..
Klub-klub pesaing padahal udh berburu buruannya..
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Nah ini baru lulus U-18 dah dijual. Entah apa maksud Moyes tapi itu sangat aneh. Kenapa nggak dipinjemin ke Molde 2 tahun gitu baru setelah peminjaman di evaluasi lagi. Cleverley aja bukan siapa2 di umur Daehli dan baru mulai tampak potensinya di umur 20an.
Bukan Moyes yang jual, tapi dari keinginan pemain yang bersangkutan. 11-12 kasusnya alias beda tipis kasus sama Pogba, kalau Pogba melihat kemungkinan kecil ia main karena ada Scholes, mungkin saja Daehli melihat kemungkinan ia main makin kecil dengan sejumlah pemain yang ingin di beli oleh Moyes walau baru sebatas rumor.

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setuju, walaupun untuk level reserve atau U21 udah lumayan bagus, belum tentu mereka bisa bagus di level senior. tapi justru disitu juga permasalahan utamanya, gimana pemain tersebut bisa adaptasi di level senior, lah dikasih kesempatan aja ngga.

contoh paling jelas adalah musim lalu, saat united kalah sama chelsea di Capital One Cup (5-4 in extra time). banyak yang bilang michael keane sama scott wootton belum siap main di level senior. kalo menurut gue sih, dengan pengalaman maen di senior yang minim plus chelsea yang full team, wajar aja mereka gugup. Johnny evans aja butuh 2 musim untuk tampil konsisten.

Paul Pogba malah lebih parah lagi, pergi dari united karena kesulitan nembus tim inti malah jadi pemain inti di Juve dan Timnas *cmiiw
Ternyata om Hadi termasuk pengamat youngster, yukk diskusi juga di thread sebelah soal Youngster ditangan David Moyes.:
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yup, target united sama everton jelas beda. di united, ga dapet piala 2 tahun, kemungkinan dipecat semakin besar. dan tentu saja untuk bersaing dengan klub2 kuat lainnya di EPL maupun Eropa, united harus punya pemain bagus, entah beli atau diambil dari akademi.

karena ga ada pemain bagus di akademi, maka united akan beli pemain bagus dari luar klub. dan mungkin hal tersebut akan berulang setiap musim. semakin sering united beli pemain dari luar, semakin jarang pemain akademi mendapatkan kesempatan tampil di level yang tinggi. dan semakin mereka jarang tampil, semakin sulit progress nya, walupun mereka disebut2 sebagai calon pemain hebat di united.
Ajax, PSV, Dortmund, Barcelona adalah sekian klub yang bisa berkompetisi di liga besar dengan mengandalkan pemain dari akademi masing- masing. Pemain muda mereka gak langsung jadi, tapi sedikit- sedikit dikasi kesempatan main. Youngster United setiap tahunnya menghasilkan trophy di liga mereka, namun pertahunnya yang masuk tim utama sangat minim. Oke sepakat mereka belum cukup "berkelas" untuk liga macam UCL & BPL, tapi di FA Cup, Capitol dll kan bisa dikasi kesempatan. colek om sesepuh @sir_otz
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Manchester United released the 19-year-old defender at the end of last season.

The centre back was loaned to League Two side Cheltenham Town in the second half of last season but he made just one substitute appearance in his six weeks at Whaddon Road before being recalled by his parent club

The youngster is a former captain of the Manchester United academy side and he has represented Northern Ireland at two different levels.

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Kalo ando kayanya hampir pasti bakal keluar soalnya bakal gadapet kesempatan kalo thiago bener bener masuk , slain itu strootman kayanya susah didatengin soalnya PSV gak mau jual strootman ke utd -_-
Gimana kalo cabaye ? Walaupun rumor nya tipis menurut agan gimana tuh ?
IMO, United belum tertarik memiliki Cabaye. Kalau Cabaye memang ingin berharap ke United siih..

Bukan hanya Ando yg keluar, Powell'pun juga bisa keluar. Kalau memang nantinya Thiago, Strootman, masuk, paling tinggal Cleverley yg bertahan, itupun jika Cleverley juga bersaing ketat dengan mereka. Dan para pemain muda yg posisinya sama seperti mereka yg akan jadi tanda tanya.
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Kalaulah gelandang tengah cuma Carrick, Clev, Thiago, dan Strootman, bakal kocar-kacir juga ngadepi 4 kompetisi.

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