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Old 08-08-2009, 08:13 PM   #1
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Tahu kan gol ketiga Inggris ke gawang Jerman pas final piala dunia 1966...
sampai sekarang masih perdebatan apakah sebenarnya masuk atau keluar...

nah...yuk share pendapat masing-masing tentang gol ini...
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Old 10-08-2009, 11:25 AM   #2
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Default Re: Wembley Goal 1966 : In or Out?

golnya geoff hurst kan yak...

lepas dari itu masuk apa ga, skornya kan 4-2, jadi klo seandainya itu dianulir, toh inggris tetap menang...
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Old 10-08-2009, 11:51 AM   #3
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gw ga terlalu ngerti sih soal yang satu ini..
tapi kalo di ambil gampang nya bener seperti apa kata bro anderstone.. walaupun di anulir England tetep menang tuh...
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Old 10-08-2009, 12:12 PM   #4
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Default Re: Wembley Goal 1966 : In or Out?

Wah....masih jadul sih ya, saat itu blom ada teknologi kayak sekarang, yang bisa liat gol dari berbagai sudut, jadi memang bakal jadi perdebatan yang ga ada habisnya gol ini.

Yang jelas saat itu gol disahkan ama wasit dan england jadi juara dunia......
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Old 10-08-2009, 12:49 PM   #5
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Default Re: Wembley Goal 1966 : In or Out?

as england fan gw harus bilang kalo bola itu masuk!!!

tapi kalo mau objektif setelah berkali2 gw liat emang agak meragukan sih, dan sepertinya pas garis alias belom masuk... atau paling nggak, posisi bola setengah digaris setengah masuk... bolanya emang kenceng banget sih, hakim garis manapun akan sulit mengambil keputusan...

kalo masalah inggris tetap menang, pembelaan dari england hater dari dulu selalu: mental jerman barat jadi down begitu gol itu disahkan, kalo nggak begitu mungkin lain cerita...
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Old 10-08-2009, 01:30 PM   #6
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zaman dah canggih dan bisa zoom berkali-kali..terakhir gua denger tuh gol sebenarnya gak sah soalnya dah diteliti bola lom lewat garis gawang...
yang jelas..gol ini salah satu fenomena saat Inggris juara dunia....
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Default Re: Wembley Goal 1966 : In or Out?

Geoff Hurst, yang nyetak gol, beberapa tahun lalu pernah bilang, waktu itu di mulut gawang ada Jimmy Greaves yang seandainya bola itu blm masuk akan dengan mudah menyontek masuk ke dalam gawang, tapi ia tidak melakukannya karena ia telah melihat bola itu masuk melewati garis
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Old 10-08-2009, 04:29 PM   #8
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Default Re: Wembley Goal 1966 : In or Out?

sebagai pendukung tim nasional Inggris...

kalau aku lihat di dokumentasi nya sih...belum masuk...

menurut aturan sekarang..."goal"...the ball should pass totally over the goal line between the goal posts and under the crossbar and no rules may be violated (such as touching the ball with the hand or arm)...

yang aku lihat bola belum melewati garis antara tiang dibawah mistar...meski rasanya memang tepat sekali digaris...tapi kalau ikut definisi...ya belum gol...

lihat link Oom Wiki ini

menurut Oom Wiki yang didapat dari Sunday Times, "in 1995 the Sunday Times reported that image analysis by researchers at Oxford University had concluded that the whole of the ball did not cross the goal-line, and so a goal should not have been awarded"

jadi seharusnya...Inggris belum tentu juara...karena jika gol ketiga tidak terjadi...maka gol keempat mungkin tidak akan terjadi...

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Old 10-08-2009, 04:35 PM   #9
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Default Re: Wembley Goal 1966 : In or Out?

bola itu pas garis...
mantul dari mistar ke garis trus keluar lagi,,,
bener deh,,,
tapi emang cepet banget bolanya,,
jadi mungkin yaa sulit juga buat wasit ngeliat gol apa engga,,,

inget roy caroll v totenham waktu itu??
masa bola udah 1 meter masuk aje dibilang kaga gol..
aneh banget dah,,,

wajar lah kalo wasit siwer dikit masalah yang beginian...
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Default Re: Wembley Goal 1966 : In or Out?

Gaakkk ngaruuh sih klo gw bilg.. mau disahkan ato tidaknya goal tsb toh di akhir2 extra time si pak Hurst itu nyetak gol caem yg bikn Inggris jd menang telak 4-2

& sbg fans England gw bisa bilg Goal yg dicetak Geoff Hurst dn yg akhirnya disahkan sama wasit Gotfret ato sapalah tuh lupa gw namanya.. itu jelas2 goal

banyak yg bilg goal tsb gak sah dikarenakan provokasi si Roger hunt yah tuh yg plg deket gawang yg lgs ngangkat tangan dan teriak GOOOAAALL.. yg bikin si wasit Gotefret dan linesman nya juga menyatakan klo bola tsb goal , klo gue bilg itu smua OMONG KOSONG boooss, klo diliat terus siaran ulangnya kliatan bgt klo bola yg membentur tiang gawang pas memantul kebwah kliatan jelas tuh bola sdikit membelok kedalam saking kuatnya tendangan si Hurst trus apanya yg bikin bola itu ga jadi goal yg sah ???
huuu pd sirik aj kalee org2 yg bilg itu bola ga goal hahahahaha

niih kronolohisnya yaah ai jabarin (hehehe niat neeh Gan' nyari DEMI SBUAH PENGAKUAN)

Pic 1.. Geoff Hurst baru saja mndapat umpan dari Alan Ball

Pic 2.. Mr. Hurst sambil menjatuhkan badan menendang bola sekencang2nya ke arah gawang

Pic 3.. Bola membentur bibir gawang dan saking kencangnya dapat dilihat lekukan arah bola ke dalam gawang sebelum akhirnya memantul ke tanah.. Ingat! pantulan bola yaitu ke garis plg dalam Gawang inilah yg membuat Linesman Bakramov "klo gasalah namanya" akhirnya juga meyakinkan wasit Gotfret utk menSAH kan goal tersebut

Pic terakhir .. yg juga jd alasan kontroversi goal ini, adalah karena Mr. Hunt yg berdiri paling dekat langsung mengangkat tangan tanda bola telah goal terlebih dulu, & dlm atmosfer pertandingan yg ketat dan seru seperti ini siapa saja termasuk Wasit dianggap bisa terpengaruh dgn tindakan pemain di lapangan, khususnya menyangkut bola kontroversial seperti diatas yg pd akhirnya para pakar menganggap goal tersbut diputuskan wasit yg agak kurg teliti menilai goal trsebut (NAAH pakar2 yg ky gini neeeh yg gw bilg Anti-England hahahahahaha)


soo.. buat para St. George Cross mania, jgn kuatir deh klo ada perdebatan soal goal ini, bisa2nya org aja tuh yg bilg goal ini gak sah
btw, OKE laah goal ini gak sah.. toh di mnit2 akhir si Mr.Hurst membalas langsung dgn goal voli kaki kiri nan caem itu kan .. hehehe

oiyee.. jgn lupa cendolnya Gaan' hehehehe


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