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rondwisan · 21-05-2014, 07:02 PM

Klo ini, bener2 mo dipertahankan atau antisipasi jika incarannya (dengan initial: Luke Shaw) gagal direkrut ...

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Originally Posted by zudomiriku

Van Gaal wants Evra to stay at Manchester United

The France defender is weighing up offers from Italian giants Juventus and Inter but his new manager at Old Trafford is hoping he will extend his stay to a 10th season

Newly appointed Manchester United manager Louis van Gaal has asked Patrice Evra to extend his Old Trafford career into a tenth season, Goal understands.

The Netherlands coach rates the left-back highly and is keen to retain the Frenchman's leadership qualities in a defence - and squad - with Nemanja Vidic and Rio Ferdinand heading for the exit.

While Van Gaal has approved United's attempt to sign Luke Shaw from Southampton, his plan is to split left-back duties between the teenage England international and Evra, who started more Premier League fixtures than any other United outfield player last season.

Ultimately, the decision to remain at Old Trafford or take on a lucrative contract elsewhere will be Evra's, though.

The 33-year-old triggered a unilateral option to extend a contract worth over £6 million annually into a fourth season with his appearance record under the Dutchman's sacked predecessor, David Moyes.

According to a close friend of the player, Evra has yet to make a final decision on where he will play next season. However his emotional ties to United are such he is leaning towards rejecting the opportunity to return to Serie A with Juventus, and carry on in Premier League football.

Evra also remains a target of Juve's Serie A rivals Inter, who have already secured the services of the Frenchman's now former Manchester United team-mate Vidic.

The former Monaco defender joined Manchester United in 2006 and has enjoyed a highly successful spell in England, winning five Premier League titles and a Champions League title.

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rondwisan · 21-05-2014, 07:20 PM

Telegraph.co.uk, Guillem Balagué - 20 May 2014
Manchester United manager Louis van Gaal values much more than just winning trophies

Family values, paternalistic pride and, when required, a confrontational approach, are all methods that Old Trafford's players will encounter in the court of King Louis

Louis van Gaal is that rarest breed of football coach: one whose achievements cannot simply be measured by silverware.

Manchester United’s new leader has accumulated 19 trophies at four clubs in three countries, over a career spanning three decades, yet even those tangible feats are nothing compared to the elite group of managers who could be classed as his protégés.

Pep Guardiola and Jose Mourinho are both graduates of the Louis van Gaal school, with his influence so marked that the man himself calls them his “creatures”.

That is no exaggeration. When Van Gaal came to Barcelona – while Bobby Robson was still in charge – Mourinho and his wife quickly switched allegiance from the company of the avuncular Englishman to countless hours spent working, socialising and above all, learning in the court of King Louis.

“The attention to detail with the use of power points and technical planning that Mourinho uses so much, the presentations he does for clubs, is pure Van Gaal,” says Pep Segura, the former Barcelona coach who worked with Van Gaal at the Nou Camp.

“And so much of the early methodology used by Guardiola at Barcelona comes from methods employed by Van Gaal.

“Johan Cruyff followed many of the ideas that he had got from Rinus Michels but he left not much written down. It was Van Gaal who instilled in the club the methodology behind it and the work ethic that at that time was missing.”

For Van Gaal, a man schooled in the holistic teaching of Ajax, this methodology could not be applied simply to the first team. The club as a whole had to embrace his working practices, with his principles imbued in every player wearing a Barcelona strip – from a first-team superstar to the lowliest member of the youth team.

He even insisted on a member of his coaching staff spending at least once a week with the under-18 group so they would also learn the same system and ideology.

The result was a club which adhered to one, cohesive footballing vision – a legacy inherited and advanced by Guardiola.

“It was him that took the playing philosophy of the club and translated it into real situations, both on the training pitch and in matches, and created the defensive organisation from which to launch such blistering offence,” says Segura.

“He perfected the 4-3-3 system that Barcelona has used all these last years – adding drills to continue the Cruyff philosophy and the positional game. And he also started to work on the high pressure game that Pep Guardiola took to its maximum expression.”

Van Gaal wanted every bond to be tight at Barcelona, and not just on the training field. He demanded to know everything about his players – their wives’ names, children’s birthdays, the dates of their wedding anniversaries, all in the belief that from these strong, intimate relationships is derived true strength.

It informed his policy of preferring to develop youth talent rather than spend heavily in the transfer market, and it was under his tutelage that players like Carles Puyol, Victor Valdes and Xavi first got their chances with the Barcelona first team.

Van Gaal dreamt of 11 Catalans winning the Champions League for Barcelona, a feat that almost came off in 2011 with seven players that had come out of the lower ranks in the line-up against United.

These men owe Van Gaal a huge debt, and are not slow to recognise it. In his farewell letter to Barcelona fans this week, Valdes wrote: “Thank you Louis Van Gaal for showing the necessary bravery to go for talent that only your eyes can see. He started to build a historical Barcelona of which I have had the privilege of being part of. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.”

Yet mixed with Van Gaal’s paternalistic pride in his Barca’s players was a ruthless streak which often erupted in the most public manner.

When introduced to a 14-year-old Gerard Pique by the young defender’s proud grandfather, who was a Barcelona director at the time, Van Gaal promptly barged Pique to the floor and then leaned over the prone youngster and quipped: “You’re too weak to be a Barca defender!”

When he thought that Rivaldo, the Fifa World Player of the Year and Ballon d’Or winner, was becoming too arrogant he stuck him on the left wing and when the player deliberately ignored his instructions, released him with a year left on his contract.

Giovanni, a Barca team-mate and fellow Brazilian, was in no doubt who was in the wrong. “Van Gaal is the Hitler of the Brazilian players – he is arrogant, proud and has a problem. He has no idea of football. His type is sick, he’s crazy.”

Confrontation is undoubtedly part of the Van Gaal coaching manual, but his pugnacity always had a point.

“He would listen to other people’s points of view but if he didn’t agree with them he would continually ask you questions, almost accusingly, to justify what you were saying,” Segura says.

“And if you managed to do that, he would say that you were right even if he had disagreed with you, and wouldn’t worry about doing so in front of other people, but it was always difficult to do.

“There are many coaches who have managed to succeed, but few who have done it developing an idea. Van Gaal is one of those that master all the parcels of responsibility of a manager: he is at the same time a team director, match director and training director.

"That last one allows him to create a full sporting structure of a club, by forming young players and giving a football path to the professionals. And the coaches under him grow too.

“As such, managers like him are always going to be in demand by the big clubs.”

Van Gaal’s departure from Old Trafford – when it comes – may well be messy.

But do not bet against the fact that by then, United’s status as English football’s biggest trophy-hunter will have been restored.

Gustiono · 21-05-2014, 07:46 PM

Wah.. seru juga thread ini.
Tapi menurut ane,mungkin formasi yang dipakai 'londo' sekarang tidak menutup kemungkinanan akan diterapkan yang sama di MU.
Tidak menutup kemungkinan pula, pemain2 Londo yang bersinar di PD nanti akan dibawa ke OT.
Menarik untuk ditunggu..

tukang-las · 21-05-2014, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Victory

Pep?

nah ini yg lagi dicari...

pep bknnya jaman cruyff ya om? atau terus sampe van gaal ngelatih disana? tp kayanya thn2 segitu pep udah jd tmn alumni nya mou deh cmiiw

troy andreas · 22-05-2014, 07:46 PM

PR terbesar LvG menurut saya adalah bangkitkan kembali mentalitas juara pemain- pemain United.

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Originally Posted by rondwisan

Jelas masih mereka-reka sih, dan rumor2 pemain2 incaran United (sejak bbrp waktu lalu) dan juga van Gaal sendiri ...

Yah kita juga blom tau siapa2 titipan LvG pada Oom Ed saat dealing ...

Salah satu rumor yg berhembus nih ...

This is the starting XI Louis van Gaal wants at Man Utd next season, according to Dutch broadcaster NOS :

What do you say Lads ....

Melihat starting XI beserta artikel- artikel diatas juga yang saya baca sejauh ini LvG doyan dengan pemain muda yang dikombinasikan dengan pemain berpengalaman, plus style akhir- akhir ini yang dekat dengan 4-3-3 jadi kalau starting XI versi media Belanda tsb saya kurang greget dengan posisi RB & RMF. Rafael masih bisa, kalau benar ketambahan Sagna bisa jadi saingan yang sama- sama kuat.

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Originally Posted by tukang-las

satu kesamaan dari 2 taktik yg dipake LvG di Ajax,Muenchen. satu orang DM elegan...Rijkaard dan van Bommel.. pas barca siapa ya DM nya?? kayanya klo dia nempatin satu orang DM semodel rijkaard dan van Bommel disitu maka bisa jadi itu jadi ciri khasnya LvG..

nah..balik ke United, siapakah DM tersebut??

*ga pake mlipir

Guardiola gantian dengan Cocu kalau gak salah ingat.

IMO, kalau pola main akan dekat dengan 4-3-3.

Kross kalau jadi gabung bisa jadi DM yang bagus, selanjutnya terserah LvG mau pake siapa disana. RvP- Rooney- Januzaj dilini serang bakalan bagus IMO>

troy andreas · 22-05-2014, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by rondwisan

Itu disebelah Roben segala rumornya jadi inceran LvG

Emang umur berapa ya si Roben

Mana masih mahal pulak

Robben bukannya baru perpanjang kontrak 3 tahun dengan Munchen??

Paul Scholes saja sudah dukung van Gaal untuk beli Toni Kross

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Ngarep sih skalian dengan Reus!

Oh iya, nasib Phill Neville, Paul Scholes & Nicky Butt dijajaran pelatih tim senior belum jelas yah? Yang dibawa LvG kan pelatih kiper & untuk scouting artinya baru nasib Chris Woods saja yang akan keluar?? CMIIW, baru online noh.

rondwisan · 22-05-2014, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by troy andreas

kalau benar ketambahan Sagna bisa jadi saingan yang sama- sama kuat.

Sagna bukannya lebih merapat ke Manchester biru yaa ...

Bosen pake jersey merah katanya ...

troy andreas · 22-05-2014, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rondwisan

Sagna bukannya lebih merapat ke Manchester biru yaa ...

Bosen pake jersey merah katanya ...

Banyak rumornya, City memang favorit karena Micah Ricards mau keluar juga yang tertinggal si Zabaleta tapi masih ada juga Kolarov yang kuat dua kaki.

Rumornya Sagna ke United gantian dengan Daryl Janmaat yang akan ke Arsenal. Memang rumor diposisi bek kanan gak sekencang diposisi bek kiri, saingan Shaw ada juga Sead Kolasinac (20) bek kiri Schalke, Juga bek kiri Wolsburg Rodriguez (21).

rondwisan · 22-05-2014, 08:43 PM

OOT dikit Bang @troy andreas;
Apakah ini pemain yg sama yg kita maksutkan ...

troy andreas · 22-05-2014, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by rondwisan

OOT dikit Bang @troy andreas;
Apakah ini pemain yg sama yg kita maksutkan ...

Lebih ngikutin Nasri dkk ternyata

21-05-2014, 07:20 PM	#12
rondwisan moderator udah sebelas yaa :) Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Soe Rock Bo Yo - Nga Lam vv Posts: 35,048 Thanks: 1,500 Thanked 4,736 Times in 2,701 Posts Mentioned: 567 Post(s)	Re: Manchester United under Louis van Gaal Telegraph.co.uk, Guillem Balagué - 20 May 2014 Manchester United manager Louis van Gaal values much more than just winning trophies Family values, paternalistic pride and, when required, a confrontational approach, are all methods that Old Trafford's players will encounter in the court of King Louis Louis van Gaal is that rarest breed of football coach: one whose achievements cannot simply be measured by silverware. Manchester United’s new leader has accumulated 19 trophies at four clubs in three countries, over a career spanning three decades, yet even those tangible feats are nothing compared to the elite group of managers who could be classed as his protégés. Pep Guardiola and Jose Mourinho are both graduates of the Louis van Gaal school, with his influence so marked that the man himself calls them his “creatures”. That is no exaggeration. When Van Gaal came to Barcelona – while Bobby Robson was still in charge – Mourinho and his wife quickly switched allegiance from the company of the avuncular Englishman to countless hours spent working, socialising and above all, learning in the court of King Louis. “The attention to detail with the use of power points and technical planning that Mourinho uses so much, the presentations he does for clubs, is pure Van Gaal,” says Pep Segura, the former Barcelona coach who worked with Van Gaal at the Nou Camp. “And so much of the early methodology used by Guardiola at Barcelona comes from methods employed by Van Gaal. “Johan Cruyff followed many of the ideas that he had got from Rinus Michels but he left not much written down. It was Van Gaal who instilled in the club the methodology behind it and the work ethic that at that time was missing.” For Van Gaal, a man schooled in the holistic teaching of Ajax, this methodology could not be applied simply to the first team. The club as a whole had to embrace his working practices, with his principles imbued in every player wearing a Barcelona strip – from a first-team superstar to the lowliest member of the youth team. He even insisted on a member of his coaching staff spending at least once a week with the under-18 group so they would also learn the same system and ideology. The result was a club which adhered to one, cohesive footballing vision – a legacy inherited and advanced by Guardiola. “It was him that took the playing philosophy of the club and translated it into real situations, both on the training pitch and in matches, and created the defensive organisation from which to launch such blistering offence,” says Segura. “He perfected the 4-3-3 system that Barcelona has used all these last years – adding drills to continue the Cruyff philosophy and the positional game. And he also started to work on the high pressure game that Pep Guardiola took to its maximum expression.” Van Gaal wanted every bond to be tight at Barcelona, and not just on the training field. He demanded to know everything about his players – their wives’ names, children’s birthdays, the dates of their wedding anniversaries, all in the belief that from these strong, intimate relationships is derived true strength. It informed his policy of preferring to develop youth talent rather than spend heavily in the transfer market, and it was under his tutelage that players like Carles Puyol, Victor Valdes and Xavi first got their chances with the Barcelona first team. Van Gaal dreamt of 11 Catalans winning the Champions League for Barcelona, a feat that almost came off in 2011 with seven players that had come out of the lower ranks in the line-up against United. These men owe Van Gaal a huge debt, and are not slow to recognise it. In his farewell letter to Barcelona fans this week, Valdes wrote: “Thank you Louis Van Gaal for showing the necessary bravery to go for talent that only your eyes can see. He started to build a historical Barcelona of which I have had the privilege of being part of. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.” Yet mixed with Van Gaal’s paternalistic pride in his Barca’s players was a ruthless streak which often erupted in the most public manner. When introduced to a 14-year-old Gerard Pique by the young defender’s proud grandfather, who was a Barcelona director at the time, Van Gaal promptly barged Pique to the floor and then leaned over the prone youngster and quipped: “You’re too weak to be a Barca defender!” When he thought that Rivaldo, the Fifa World Player of the Year and Ballon d’Or winner, was becoming too arrogant he stuck him on the left wing and when the player deliberately ignored his instructions, released him with a year left on his contract. Giovanni, a Barca team-mate and fellow Brazilian, was in no doubt who was in the wrong. “Van Gaal is the Hitler of the Brazilian players – he is arrogant, proud and has a problem. He has no idea of football. His type is sick, he’s crazy.” Confrontation is undoubtedly part of the Van Gaal coaching manual, but his pugnacity always had a point. “He would listen to other people’s points of view but if he didn’t agree with them he would continually ask you questions, almost accusingly, to justify what you were saying,” Segura says. “And if you managed to do that, he would say that you were right even if he had disagreed with you, and wouldn’t worry about doing so in front of other people, but it was always difficult to do. “There are many coaches who have managed to succeed, but few who have done it developing an idea. Van Gaal is one of those that master all the parcels of responsibility of a manager: he is at the same time a team director, match director and training director. "That last one allows him to create a full sporting structure of a club, by forming young players and giving a football path to the professionals. And the coaches under him grow too. “As such, managers like him are always going to be in demand by the big clubs.” Van Gaal’s departure from Old Trafford – when it comes – may well be messy. But do not bet against the fact that by then, United’s status as English football’s biggest trophy-hunter will have been restored.

21-05-2014, 07:46 PM	#13
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