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Old 02-01-2015, 05:43 PM   #1
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Ok sebelum nya gw sampaikan kalo di thread ini kita hanya membahas yg sudah2 mulai match Stoke ke belakang dan tidak berlaku ke depan..

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Seperti nya lvg bermasalah dengan taktik pergantian pemain, reading game dan during games analysis jga jelek sejauh ini, coba cek selama musim ini United ga pernah coming from behind ato paling ngga punya pemain yg bisa mengubah permainan dan jga memenangkan tim, Moyes sekalipun bahkan punya taktik pergantian pemain yg lebih bagus, terlihat beberapa pertandingan United ketinggalan ato butuh kemenangan, pergantian yg dilakukan bakal merubah permainan jdi lebih baik, Januzaj bahkan beberapa kali jadi game changer musim lalu..
Itu yg ngga ada sama lvg sejauh ini..
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Old 02-01-2015, 06:45 PM   #2
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selama musim ini United ga pernah coming from behind ato paling ngga punya pemain yg bisa mengubah permainan dan jga memenangkan tim

LVG nggak punya banyak pilihan pemain sebagai game changer. Musim ini terlihat klo United minim kualitas di posisi winger dan kuantitas diposisi FB. Efeknya LVG "dipaksa" menggunakan taktik 3-5-2.
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Old 02-01-2015, 07:18 PM   #3
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Yah kalo mau 'dikonfrontir' ke ybs, Pakde van Gaal, rasanya beliau akan menjawab, "dengan stock pemain fit seperti yg kita ketahui bersama saat ini, you have no much players to choose, jangankan buat pergantian, buat ngerotasi starting aja opsinya terbatas bingiiitt,"

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Yah kalo mau 'dikonfrontir' ke ybs, Pakde van Gaal, rasanya beliau akan menjawab, "dengan stock pemain fit seperti yg kita ketahui bersama saat ini, you have no much players to choose, jangankan buat pergantian, buat ngerotasi starting aja opsinya terbatas bingiiitt,"

Setuju soal minim stok pemain, rasanya mustahil melihat Ando yang jadi pengubah jalannya permainan.

Semalam ada yang nge-twitt lupa nama akunnya tapi followersnya banyak. Dia nge-twitt soal Javier Hernandez yang sering jadi pemecah kebuntuan. Pemain yang LvG gak punya.

Pergantian pemain muda ala LvG-pun gak seperti jaman SAF. Macheda- Pique dll gak ada di jaman LvG ini, atau terlalu dini menilainya yah.
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Minim stok memang bisa jadi alasan tapi gw rasa masalah sebenarnya bukan disana...

Beberapa pertandingan gw perhatikan kadang lvg mengganti pemain yang kontribusi nya masih bagus dlm pertandinga tsb, imbas nya ketika pemain ybs out irama permainan United cendrung tambah buruk karena pergantian itu, contoh pergantian Falcao yg sering salah kaprah seharus nya Falcao masih harus di lapangan, liat saja dia keluar bek lawan senang dan permainan United jga tidak lebih baik

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Soal Falcao iya setuju, kalau gak salah ingat selain match semalam waktu lawan Everton & WHU juga begitu. Lini serang jadi kurang greget pas Falcao ditarik. IMO Falcao selalu main ngotot dibanding RvP.

Selain Falcao pernah juga Di Maria, ingat kasus Leicester & WBA. Ketajaman lini serang langsung turun drastis.

Bagian dari taktik atau kurang tepat seperti kata TS.
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Percuma pake striker Falcao RVP klo nggak ada pemain yang bisa menciptakan peluang. Mo striker Diego Costa pun percuma. Yang dibutuhkan United adalah pemain yang bisa menciptakan peluang baik dari passing atau dribling. Tanpa itu ya lihat saja, Falcao cuma grasah-grusuh kesana kesini tapi minim menciptakan peluang. Dia butuh dikasih peluang, bukan ikut meng-create serangan.
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Kalau Taktik gak masalah Om TOD tapi bener juga minim pemain dan serba kelelahan mungkin.. Young kalo dimainkan bareng Shaw agak canggung malah permainan young jadi minim skill apalagi malah ditaruh di sayap kanan.. begh mati kutuu..

Masalah terbesar adalah Pertahanan yang sering terombang ambing entah blunder lah.. entah gak konsentrasilah.. terlihat banget ketika lawan stoke..
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Default Re: Taktik Pergantian Pemain LVG Jelek ??

Sebenarnya soal "coming from behind" itu bukan masalah pergantian pemain namun tergantung gimana si pelatih angkat mental pemain di lapangan baik itu pre-match, during match, dan injury time.
LvG, menurut saya, kurang bisa angkat moral & self-confidence saat pre-match, 'hair-dryer treatment' ala SAF saat jeda, ataupun berada di sisi lapangan dengan Fergie-time saat injury time.
LvG banyak terlihat duduk manis sedangkan Giggs lebih banyak mondar-mandir beri instruksi. Saya jarang melihat LvG berdiri di sisi lapangan kecuali hanya saat United cetak gol.
Mungkin gak bisa apple to apple antara SAF & LvG soal mengganti pemain (karena formasi & taktiknya pun berbeda) namun mengganti seluruh pemain pun tak kan berarti apa-apa apabila LvG sendiri gak bisa angkat mental & komunikasikan taktik di lapangan.
Mungkin itulah gaya LvG. Saya sendiri kurang suka dengan gaya seperti itu, but still he's our boss.
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Sejauh ini memang pergantian pemain yang dilakukan LvG ga menghasilkan hasil positif.
Termasuk Fellaini vs wba...hanya hasil seri yang didapet Oleh United.
Di luar keterbatasan stock pemain karena gonta ganti cedera,,rasa-rasanya pola yang digunakan oleh LvG (dalam hal ini 3-5-2) sejauh ini ga bisa dijalankan dengan baik oleh para pemain United. Mungkin hingga saat ini pola pakemnya LvG tersebut belum mendarah daging di dalam diri pemain.

Di samping itu,,United sejauh ini belum punya The Winnig Team. Formasi starting line-upnya suka gonta ganti,,karena alasan di atas juga (baca : cedera para pemain). Termasuk pemain yang ada di cadangan juga suka gonta ganti.
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