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Manchester is RED.. Blue just for film

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The Makings of the Manchester Derby
bleacherreport.com



The rivalry between Manchester United and Manchester City is more than 100 years in the making, but even now it's reaching new levels of white-hot fury.

Fierce competition has always existed between Manchester's top two. But when Sheikh Mansour bought City in 2008 it heightened the relationship to a state of hissing, spitting hatred, especially between the younger sets of supporters.

Once United fans could treat City, who bounced around the leagues in the 1990s and 2000s, with the condescending derision afforded to an annoying little brother.

But now they aren't just city rivals, but rivals for trophies and titles.

The derby, which will be contested on Sunday for the 166th time, has always had its villains. And it's usually the ones who have played away with the neighbours.



Like any bitter divorce, it’s worse when a lost love gets comfy next door.

Players have moved between Manchester’s top two clubs even before United were playing City. Robert Milarvie was the first, moving from Newton Heath to Ardwick in 1891. He wasn’t the last.

After winning the FA Cup for the first time in 1904, City became embroiled in a corruption scandal.

Manager Tom Maley, who had also led the Blues to a second-place finish in the First Division the same season, was suspended for life by the FA and 17 of his players were banned.

City were forced to auction their best players at the Queen’s Hotel in Manchester and four—Sandy Turnbull, Billy Meredith, Herbert Burgess and Jimmy Bannister—moved to United.

To rub salt into the wound, Turnbull and Meredith went on to win the FA Cup and two league titles at Old Trafford.

Since Milarvie’s transfer 121 years ago, 23 others have followed in his footsteps.



Some are well known like Denis Law, Brian Kidd and Carlos Tevez. Others less so, like Horace Blew or Wyn Davies.

There are those who played for one and managed the other like Sir Matt Busby, Steve Coppell and Mark Hughes.

Or the only man to manage both clubs, Ernest Mangnall.

There has always been a rivalry, even from the first game between West Gorton and Newton Heath in 1881. But it has gradually got more tribal and now all that exists between the two sets of fans is hatred and fear. Hatred of the opposing fans and players. Fear that the neighbours will win trophies at their expense.

It might have been different. Instead of competing for trophies, the two halves of Manchester might have been celebrated success together.

The idea of merging United and City was mooted during the 1963-64 season.

With City stranded in Division Two, firmly in United's shadow, City vice-chairman Frank Johnson floated the idea of joining forces with United.



It was only after a group of City shareholders joined the board to secure the club's future that the idea was dropped.

And only four years later in 1968—after United had won the European Cup and City the First Division title—Manchester became the first British city to boast two teams in the Europe's top club competition.

When City struck oil in 2008, it brought them back to the top table.

Where once the derby was about bragging rights, it now decides Premier League titles, as it did in 2012.

Neither United or City are going away anytime soon. And what's at stake, as well as the disgust for one another, is going to keep getting greater and greater.

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WE are the noisy neighbours! United to trial 'singing section' for fans to create more atmosphere at Old Trafford

Manchester United will trial a singing section at Old Trafford during the Champions League encounter with Real Sociedad on October 23.

The Red Devils have already had one attempt at the venture, which was eventually scrapped after police objected to the relocation of visiting supporters to Tier 3 of the Sir Alex Ferguson Stand, opposite the manager's dug-outs.


Lacking: The Old Trafford atmosphere has come in for criticism in recent years


As Sociedad have taken their full allocation of tickets for the Group A clash, their supporters will go into the upper section of the East Stand, which is used for away fans for domestic cup ties, including next week's Capital One Cup third round tie with Liverpool.

It means a 1,400 capacity section will be available to season ticket holders who express an interest.

If the 1,400 on offer are not snapped up by season ticket holders they will go to members who have also registered an interest.


Try again: United will test out the singing section for the second time in just 18 months


Inspiration: City fans often mock Old Trafford for its lack of atmosphee

Although it is a fan led initiative, United are backing it after employing an acoustic engineer in an effort to increase noise levels earlier this year.

The move has already received the backing of Red Devils midfielder Michael Carrick, who said on Twitter: 'Great idea to have a singing section. If I was going as a fan that's where I'd be...'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2424750/Manchester-United-trial-singing-section-create-atmosphere-Old-Trafford.html

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Charting the Shifting Power Balance of the Manchester Derby Rivalry



One of the neat curiosities about Premier League football telecasts is the way they regard recent form as having the same import (perhaps greater import) than overall record.

It is understandable at one level. The season is very long. Results accrued in September and October very often tell you nothing about the side you are watching in April and May.

This is why, in charting the Manchester City/Manchester United derby rivalry, I am cribbing from the Premier League's own format. The last six results are all that are worth discussing. Beyond that, too many players have moved on and too much has changed to have the previous outcomes be relevant.

The six matches surveyed include four Premier League clashes and two FA Cup battles. By selecting these six matches, I deftly avoid having to talk about an exhibition (the August 2011 Community Shield) and a Wayne Rooney bicycle kick I have been trying to forget for two-and-a-half years.

We pick up the analysis, then, with City 1-0 United in the 2011 FA Cup semifinal at Wembley Stadium. The significance of this win for City was almost indescribable.

City took on United knowing that the winner of the semifinal would take on either a heavy underdog in Stoke City or an unfathomable underdog in Bolton Wanderers, the combatants in the other semifinal.

Whoever won the Stoke-Bolton match was probably going to win silver. This, therefore, was exactly the sort of match City normally lost to United. Except this time, they didn't.



Fittingly, it was Yaya Toure who scored the only goal of the match, which stood up more easily after Paul Scholes was sent off. You will recall that Toure's goal won the FA Cup for City against Stoke City four weeks later.

Also of note from the post-game reaction to this City/United FA Cup tussle was City manager Roberto Mancini's observation that he believed an FA Cup win could inspire City to win the league the following year: "I believe in what I said because, for us, it's important to start to win the first trophies."

If City's triumph over United in the 2011 FA Cup semifinal nudged the door ajar for future City success, United 1-6 City kicked it off the hinges in October 2011.

Darren Fletcher's 81st minute goal was the only thing that kept the Sky Blues from a clean sheet, but by then City had already scored three times and had the three points all but in the book. Then the Citizens popped three more in to press some salt into the fresh gash.

When a City performance can inspire words from Sir Alex Ferguson like: "It was our worst ever day. It's the worst result in my history, ever. Even as a player I don't think I ever lost 6-1," that is one special day.

United 1-6 City marked the first time in forever outside of the blue side of Manchester that anyone seriously considered the possibility that City could topple United and seize the Premier League crown after 44 years of misery.

The sides met again in the third round of the FA Cup at the Etihad in January 2012, with City falling 2-3. Contrary to popular belief, there really are no moral victories in sport. You either win or you lose.

However, it is still damn entertaining to watch an outnumbered, apparently defeated side try to claw back a result the way the Citizens did in this match.

United had their way with City in the first half, helped in no small part by City centre-back Vincent Kompany's straight red card in the 12th minute, two minutes after Rooney had opened the scoring for United.

After Danny Welbeck's tally in the 30th minute and Rooney's conversion of his own penalty miss in the 40th minute, 10-man City seemed past dead.

A funny thing happened on the way to a revenge rout for United, though: "City had United holding on as they pressed at every opportunity," and the final whistle came none too soon for the Red Devils.

Then came an even more famous day than United 1-6 City, at least where City's 2011-12 Premier League title run is concerned.

ESPN FC's match report of City 1-0 United in April 2012 tells the tale as well as I ever could:

Vincent Kompany's header on the stroke of half-time loosened United's stranglehold in a game City richly deserved to win.

The pressure looked to tell on Sir Alex Ferguson, who approached Roberto Mancini in a finger-jabbing fury after Nigel de Jong had brought down Danny Welbeck in the second half.

The Italian responded in kind and at one point only fourth official Mike Jones stood between the pair, who after repeated clashes, were eventually pulled apart by their backroom staff.

The same report noted that, with only two matches left on City's schedule, the Citizens had control of their own destiny. "If City win their final two games - at Newcastle on Sunday and at home to QPR on the last day - they will be crowned champions for the first time since 1968."

Easy as pie.

As joyous as City's derby double against United was in 2011-12, their split with United in 2012-13 was unsatisfying.

City 2-3 United last December announced former Arsenal man Robin van Persie—whom City notoriously failed to sign—as the new difference-maker in the rivalry. The Dutch forward's free kick in the second half of extra time off Joe Hart's back post and in secured all three points for the Red Devils.

Perhaps more importantly, the United victory set City six points back in the table. It was a deficit they never really seemed to consider closing up.

By the time City claimed a small measure of revenge with United 1-2 City in April, the Premier League title was already boxed and awaiting shipment back to Sir Alex and United. According to ESPN's match report:

In the fractious latter stages, Gareth Barry was booked for starting a skirmish, Pablo Zabaleta's yellow-card challenge forced Ashley Young off and both Rafael and Antonio Valencia were cautioned for felling Barry.

It all felt slightly hollow though as City's fans sang about being the "pride of Manchester'' whilst knowing their title is almost gone.

You don't say.

Still, that makes four wins from the last six for City over United in matches that both teams played to win. A form of W,W,L,W,L,W will do for just about any side in a rivalry like this.

Sunday's renewal of acquaintances should be the standard issue derby between City and United.

A bloodbath, plain and straight.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1779121-charting-the-shifting-power-balance-of-the-manchester-derby-rivalry

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Manchester City fans mock struggling Manchester United with banner over the Etihad Stadium

* Man City fans fly the banner 'United we fall - in cinemas soon' before their match against Chelsea
* Comes after Man United lose 5-3 at newly-promoted Leicester
* Similarities to the one flown over Old Trafford as Red Devils fans expressed their anger over ex-boss David Moyes' management
* Man City drew 1-1 with Chelsea at the Etihad Stadium
* Worst start to a season in Premier League history under Louis van Gaal

A banner mocking Manchester United's poor start to the season was flown over their arch rival's stadium to rub salt in the wounds on a difficult day for Louis van Gaal's men.

Cheeky Manchester City fans ran a plane over the Etihad Stadium before their clash with title rivals Chelsea with the simple message: 'United we fall - in cinemas soon.'

It came after the Red Devils had lost 5-3 to newly-promoted Leicester and bore remarkable similarities to a stunt organised by Man United fans last season to express their displeasure with ex-boss David Moyes.


A humorous banner was flown over the Etihad Stadium before Man City's crunch clash with Chelsea


The banner rubbed salt in Man United's wounds on a punishing day for the Red Devils

Fans paid to have a banner flown over Old Trafford before the club's clash with Aston Villa on March 29 - and Moyes was sacked less than a month later.

It said: 'Wrong one - Moyes out' in reference to 'the Chosen One' banner which adorned Old Trafford after the legendary Sir Alex Ferguson handpicked the former Everton boss as his successor.

Man United have taken only five points from their first five Premier League games under Van Gaal, their worst start to a season in Premier League history.

The Scottish manager managed two more points in his first five league games last term.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2764620/Manchester-City-fans-mock-struggling-Manchester-United-banner-Etihad-Stadium.html

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THE HISTORY OF THE MANCHESTER DERBY
After 167 clashes in 123 years, another chapter between Utd & City will be written on Sunday. Matt Stead looks through the history of the Manchester derby.